Very true. I experienced the same anti-Irish attitude in Spain recently. A waitress mentioned how much trouble they have with the Irish and how abusive they get with her co-workers. An hour later I saw a group of 6/7 idiots from Ireland urinate on a restaurant window while people ate inside.

Sounds just like some english, germans, dutch when i was in ibiza 2 swedish guys running down th street naked and drunk. When some people are on holiday sadly they do things they would not do at home. And that is every nationality.

I take your point, Mark, but Australia is more than a holiday destination for the Irish now. People have to understand that if they want a future there, behaviour like this will affect it.

I’m guessing that a lot of the Traveller community will appreciate the irony of all this… ‘you’re Irish – we had some of your lot causing trouble here last week, so you’re banned’

So Paula – a waitress just happened to mention to you “how much trouble they have with the Irish”. I’ve never heard such rubbish in my entire life. You get better with each comment…. and then you saw a group of 6/7 idiots from Ireland urinate on a restaurant window. I live in Spain and I have never once seen any antics like that in my time here and also I spend a lot of time eating out in a major city. Service staff actually really love Irish people because they give extremely large tips as the locals usually leave a few cent.

Your hate filled comments are bordering on racist so I’d tread carefully!

Why don’t you tell us where you are really from then or do we have to find out?

Firstly my name is Paula. Secondly I shared a genuine experience. The village in question was named Los Abrigos, a well known village for restaurants. The waitress asked myself and a few other friends where were we from, when we said Ireland she told us they had a lot of ‘experiences’ with Irish people. When pressed further, she explained that they get very drunk and abuse her staff, which require them to call the local police. As for the urinating on the window of a restaurant, that was as we drove by…all Irish guys, in their mid 20s, urinating against a very large window. Don’t you dare threaten me you ridiculous man, my comments are not bordering on racist in any form. If you don’t like my comments don’t read them.

Firstly nobody threatened you. I am assuming that by your constant bile filled comments about Irish people in general (well documented on this site) that you couldn’t possibly be Irish unless you are taking self loathing to another level. Classifying a race of people in general as drunks, idiots and clowns is racist whether you disagree or not.

Paula, you only ever comment on Journal articles when the subject matter is the behaviour of Irish people. I cant really take you seriously when you seem singularly obsessed by this subject.

Jaysus Paula, there’s a lot of paddies-pissing-on-windows where ever you go! You said the same about Krakow just a few weeks back! I’ve been all over the world too Paula, and while some Irish have left me a tad red in the face at their shit talk, and their belief that their GAA county colours are actually recognised anywhere outside Ireland (or that anybody even cares) i’ve never once seen any such behaviour. Not once. Not anywhere. On the flip side, every Aussie bar i’ve ever been in Europe has been full of pissed up agressors. nn

Lots of uneducated Irish that go abroad. That’s why most of them cause trouble. The little percentage of well educated Irish who’s over on Oz are alright.

Agree, tbh when I am abroad I tend to stay clear of Irish bars. FFS if I wanted to go to an Irish bar, I’d stayed at home!!!!

There is plenty of young Aussies about doing the same in europe too

Dave I agree but ozzies travel cos its an adventure, not because they are forced out of a third world country

In parts of bali they have real trouble with aussies who go there for holidays,the problem is that the small minority over there who are causing the trouble have no sense of community,i guarantee they wouldn’t act like that in there local back home.but shame on this fella,he’s happy to get the Irish drunk but not willing to deal with the ramifications,well as a publican he has a much larger responsibility then he lets on.

Hiya Fester, have you ever been to a third world country? If you have, you should be pretty ashamed of yourself to make the comparison. If you haven’t, then fire away, I’ll note you down as an eejit.

@Fester, what a stupid throwaway comment, hard to comprehend.

Jack Eagle you are so right went to France with a few Irish guys they spent most of their time in an Irish bar playing pool. Boooooring

Yeah Fester. You shouldn’t compare Ireland to third world countries because some third world countries provide free healthcare, dental and education to all citizens.

Lynda very fair comment and in no way a strange one! Unfortunately some Irish people take things too far with the booze- but as an Irishman living in London just try and go to any walkabout bar and see how the aussies behave. If i was to generalise i would say the Aussies are a lot more aggressive with drink in them, whereas the Irish do more stupid less aggressive things when flutered. Still prefer to be Irish any day. This hostel owner is a disgrace coming out saying all this about the Irish- not once does he say a good word about us there are plenty of good Irish workers in oz, i know because my friends and I were some of them. I wonder if the hostel owner is Paula’s ex husband????? :-)

The uproar would not be in the pub…It would be empty!

The way the pubs are at the moment even the Stokes are being served

Pubs can ban whom ever they like. If you behave badly, you’re out. I know of n3 smart ass dubs who got drunk in Bulgaria, got rowdy in a pub and spent 3 weeks in jail. Pity they didn’t get banged up abroad for 2 years.

unfortunately true..

it is shame but it’s how it’s always done.. .

ah now….dogs drinking Ballygowan should be allowed..

Woof. I’ll be good I promise. I might urinate behind a tree but not on a restaurant window! You never know where your next bone is coming from! No dogs, no Irish. I’m in trouble…….

The D4 / Posh Rugby School kids are often the worst behaved, precisely because they get away with so much as a result of Daddy pulling strings to get them off.

Ah sure I only drink every few months and very rarely do I drink much when I do! Of course sometimes I get carried away … But having said that I’m the only one in my social circle who can drink but doesn’t really, aside from that I know a few recovering alcoholics who abstain! I can’t believe the folk who drink excessively every week can be having that much more craic than sober folk… It’s overrated

In fairness the Irish were applauded for there great nature in gdanks and poznan,did you see the people of Poznan before the Spain England semi final,they were all dressed in Irish gear,singing Irish songs.A minority might give us a bad name but don’t underestimate the great reputation of a good natured people we still have.

“but don’t underestimate the great reputation of a good natured people we still have.” You don’t travel much do you

paula where exactly do u go that the irish are hated soo much?i think the we did ourselves proud in Poland as the video on youtube shows ‘poznanian continue to miss the irish’.it was in the fanzone before the spain v portugal game.we all got on great with the locals yes maby a few fools but everywhere gets that!so what if we sang after losing the game,would you rather we trashed the stadium, started a riot??cop on,it was fun and got the whole world talking about how great the irish supporters are a bit of good news for this country for once

All things in moderation! Anyone who drinks without knowing his or her limits will sooner or later become a liability to those who go out to enjoy themselves. The problem is the effect alcohol can have on our good nature – especially the long-term effects on mental health, since alcohol acts as a depressant.

@paulannAre u even Irish? Your negativity and bitterness is astounding, time to get yourself a life me thinks

I doubt they can stay away from it! :)

Ara sure we are all lovely, falling around and singing after we lose football games. Sure the whole world loves us, we are great altogether, the happiest clowns in the world. Everyone loves the Irish!…Yeah right, unfortunately the Irish are disliked and feared throughout Europe, never mind Australia. Drunk, arrogant, loud yobs falling around causing mayhem is what we are seen as.

don’t believe everything you read…. you Cant tar everyone with the same brush…. a minority ruining it for the majority…. all very true but this was in the local Irish paper. have a sister in Perth and she was tellin me how most letting agencies now refuse to take on Irish backpackers cause of the damage done by previous Irish piss heads. there is good and bad everywhere you go…. was one of those piss heads myself for a couple of years out there… but from what i have heard from long term Irish in Sydney and Perth is things are gettin out of control. no smoke without fire they say…. would still love to go back though!!!

The Irish are disliked and feared throughout Europe, Paula Cop on, every country in the world has a minority of people that over step the mark just like the irish. We have thousands of people from Australia here in London on 1 year visas, and yes a minority of them do get pissed and fight and trash the apartments they are staying in.

i wonder if any of his younger relations or friends kids come over from ireland if he’ll ban them too, or smuggle them into the hostel under the cover of darkness. Plenty of bridges burned there methinks. And alot of bad press aswell.

And as it has been said already, he can’t have it both ways, he either ban them from the pub aswell, or ban any other nationality that has caused any problems either, regardless. I bet there were plenty of others aswell.

I’ve relations in Australia and the general feeling is that a small minority of Irish are causing plenty of problems! It says a lot when Irish business owners abroad refuse to deal with Irish. It is only the minority who ruin it for the majority! Irish workers not turning in to work and being dishonest about qualifications in order to get work! I don’t blame Australian/ Irish employers.

No evidence at all Begrudgy that Thomas Dunne’s bar served alcohol to them at all. Careful you’re not defending the indefensible….

Paula, could you name the countries that we are disliked and feared in please. If you are going to say things like that, then you need to back it up with facts.

Now would you rather we fall around and sing after losing games, or go on a rampage and destroy things?

I know myself and others would prefer the former. And as for drunk, arrogant, loud yobs, you can throw every other country in that boat aswell, not just the irish, so that argument is invalid.

I don’t know what you have against the Irish, because every comment i have seen from you so far has be extremely negative against an entire nationality. If i did that against a country i’d be vilified for it, so don’t think you can say those things and get away with it.

It is illegal for a bar server to serve alcohol to an intoxicated person in Australia. Because of this, bar servers DON’T knowingly serve alcohol to drunks.nThe trouble makers are probably doing what they do here. Buying drink at a bottle shop and drinking elsewhere.n

It’s jusy ‘No Irish’ nowadays- the rest are most welcome!

I know, who do these people think they are, going out with friends and spending their hard earned money.

you hope his business fails! bit much but that’s what I would expect from the Irish anyway. clearly he feels strongly about this issue to make the statement. maybe he is hoping it will help set the Irish over there on the right path. Does a man not have a right to state where he sees an issue anymore? typical Irish begrudgery

Why all the red thumbs? If you had been in Australia you would know how the media there just love to get outraged at anything. The Aussie media love to complain.
I know this because I am Australian
Whether it has anything to do with the truth has very little to do with it. You simply cant blame a whole nationality for one trait or any particular behaviour – that’s called rascism

INM own a lot of papers in Australia. Australians are not racist.

Agreed. You can rest assured the trouble makers are: (a) Farming just taking advantage of the visa extension to stay an extra year. (b) Not suitably qualified to be sponsored into a qualifying job within Australia. (c) Will have to leave Australia within the year.

I don’t know how you can stick living here Paula, with all the abusive drunks and dumb sheep you are surrounded by. Seems, from your comments on a few stories, that you can’t go a day without an Irish-specific misanthropic rage overtaking you

Kevin when i read her comments the word Bitter, angry comes to mind.

If objecting to abusive behaviour makes people “bitter and angry”, I’m afraid Australia may soon prove a very bitter, angry country where our minority of troublemakers are concerned. We might then try the same trick of attempting to label the whole country antisocial and puritanical, but I’m not sure that will work as well as expected.

Aleo, Paula is not just objecting to bad behaviour, she is labelling all Irish as the same, when it is untrue. She says The Irish are seen as Drunk, arrogant, loud yobs falling around causing mayhem, disliked and feared throughout Europe. It is just ridiculous thing to say and so wrong.

Ah but didn’t you see in the article the farm owners only want Koreans now!!! And I wouldn’t be surprised if said farm owners are paying said Koreans LOWER than minimum wage (disclaimer that I cannot prove any of this, just my opinion). And if they can get someone to work for lower than minimum they ain’t gonna hire the Irish who will at least be looking for minimum. Can’t say that in this day and age many Irish would work for less than minimum wage. We have been brought up to expect it as a standard, and go to places like Aus knowing that they do have a min wage system in place, therefore expect that that is the least we will be paid. But there are people from other countries (and Korea may be one I don’t know) who will work for any money rather than having non, and therefore can be exploited by unscrupulous employers.

And it appears that this Irish fellow goes hand in hand with the farm owners, I read that the farm owners said to him they only wanted Koreans so he sent them 40 Koreans!!!!!

I do think he has caused a storm out of something that need not have been one. Yes there are Irish who behave badly abroad, but as are their British, French, Italian etc, even Australians themselves. Refusing to take an entire nation of people is going to come back to bite him in the arse methinks.

Michael,

Spell properly and your point may be taken seriously.

Sharon – P,R,O,P,E,R,L,Y spells properly. Did I spell it correctly?

Dave, of course she’s entitled to an opinion, but when she EXCLUSIVELY comments on items where there is any chance, however remote, to slag off Irish people, then people tend to call BS on it.

She’s entitled to her own opinion, but when she slags off an entire country of people on a consistant basis, then she has to expect it to be thrown right back at her.