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Israel strike on Syria ‘unacceptable’: Russia

Russia’s foreign ministry said it was “deeply concerned” by the Syrian claims and that it was taking “urgent measures” to clarify the situation.

File photo of Free Syrian Army fighters.
File photo of Free Syrian Army fighters.
Image: Andoni Lubaki/AP

RUSSIA WARNED TODAY that any Israeli air strike against Syria would be “unacceptable” after the Damascus regime said a military research centre had come under Israeli fighter jet attack.

Russia’s foreign ministry said it was “deeply concerned” by the Syrian claims and that it was taking “urgent measures” to clarify the situation.

“If this information is confirmed, then we are dealing with unprovoked strikes against targets located on the territory of a sovereign state, which brazenly infringes on the UN Charter and is unacceptable, no matter the motive used for its justification,” said a ministry statement.

The strident Russian statement came after the Syrian army accused Israel of launching a strike at dawn yesterday targeting its military research centre in Jamraya, near Damascus.

“Israeli fighter jets violated our airspace at dawn today and carried out a direct strike on a scientific research centre in charge of raising our level of resistance and self-defence,” the general command said.

The warplanes entered Syria’s airspace at low altitude and under the radar, the army said, adding that two site workers were killed.

“They… carried out an act of aggression, bombarding the site, causing large-scale material damage and destroying the building,” state television quoted the military as saying.

Residents told AFP that six rockets hit the complex, leaving it partially destroyed, causing a fire and killing two people.

The army, meanwhile, denied reports that an Israeli air strike had targeted a weapons convoy from Syria near the border with Lebanon.

Stockpile of chemical weapons

The attack came after Israel expressed concerns that Damascus’s stockpile of chemical weapons could fall into the hands of Lebanon’s Shiite Hezbollah group, an ally of Assad’s regime, or other militant organisations.

Israel, whose officials have said such that a transfer would be a casus belli and likely spark an attack, has refused to comment on the attack.

The United States, which is currently hosting Israeli military intelligence chief Aviv Kochavi, also declined to comment.

As well as concerns about Syria’s chemical weapons stockpile, Israel has accused Syria of supplying long-range Scud missiles to Hezbollah.

It has also warned about the dangers of other advanced weaponry falling into the Lebanese militia’s hands, such as anti-aircraft systems and surface-to-surface missiles.

The attack took place just days after Israel moved two batteries of its vaunted Iron Dome missile defence system to the north and at a time of rising fears that the Syria conflict could see chemical weapons leaking into Lebanon.

A former intelligence chief with Israel’s Mossad spy service said the Jewish state “should make any effort to prevent any weapons systems of that kind going out to terror organisations.”

In comments before reports of the attack emerged, Amnon Sofrin said Israel was unlikely to hit chemical weapons stocks from the air because of the environmental risks.

“When you go and attack a… chemical weapons depot, you’re going to do unwarranted damage because every part will leak out and can cause damage to many residents.

“But if you know of a convoy leading these kind of weapon systems from Syria to Lebanon, you can send a unit to the proper place and try to halt it” on the ground, he said.

Calls for Assad to step down

Russia has outraged Western and Arab nations by refusing to join international calls for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step down and continues to supply its Soviet-era ally with weapons.

It has vetoed three Security Council resolutions sanctioning Assad for violence that the United Nations estimates has killed more than 60,000 people since it broke out in mid-March 2011.

A top Russian official on Thursday rejected the idea of the Security Council taking action because “the Council has already made a number of important decision” on Syria.

“I do not think that in current conditions, the UN Security Council will start work on a new resolution,” Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov told Russia’s Interfax news agency.

- © AFP 2013.

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Comments (80 Comments)

  • Just more proof of how weak and useless the UN really is. The League of Nations was a total failure because they didn’t have a force to intervene. The UN actually has a force and it is still hopeless. Nobody is afraid of violating the rules or bending them to their will because the UN is fractured and toothless.

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  • Does this mean that any country can now attack another country, without UN approval, before proceeding? If Iran, Egypt, Syria. Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan, all decided to attack suspected Nuclear Arms sites in Israel, that they should be allowed to, without repercussions?
    I understood that the UN security council were the only body that could authorise attacks on another country.
    On another note, is it coincidental that Israel also refused to take its seat at the annual Human rights meeting today? Its the first time since the UN was founded, that ANY country refused to take its seat at this meeting. Even North Korea takes its seat there every year, and listens to the councils feedback on its Human Rights abuses.
    I understood that the Israelis considered its country to be the only true democracy in the middle east …. makes a bit of a joke of that claim now … doesn’t it.

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    • Lets be honest – the UN is a joke anywhay.
      How many deaths now via Assad? Thousands upon thousands… upon thousands?
      …And what the UN REALLY done – absolute feck all.

      Stuff the UN – at least someone is doing something even if we disagree with the country doing it.

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    • Biggins, if the result is that Iran and Syria decide top bomb suspected Nuclear sites in Israel, with the sole aim of removing Nuclear weapons from the middle-east, then you think they would be justified…. right? Someone needs to remove the suspected Nuclear weapons sites in Israel… right?

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    • @ Cal1 Mooney

      The point that you clearly want to miss deliberately, is that at least someone is doing something.
      I dislike what Israel has done but at least they got up off their arse – unlike the still cowardly shower in the UN and the USA!

      As for Russia and China – they have their own agenda for Syria and it too for them, involves self-interest so they too let the killings continue.
      They are no saints to be lecturing at all.

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    • ljb666 31/01/13 #

      This is the reason they Didn’t take up there seat today
      http://rt.com/news/un-israel-remove-settlements-161/

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  • Rich coming from Russia! How about Chechnya?

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  • According to the news over here the strike was on a convoy of russian military hardware on it’s way to Lebanon for hizbollah? Can the journal confirm this?

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  • malcom 31/01/13 #

    I think we should send a flotilla to Israel pack it full of Dutch gold and tayto crisps it may just calm them down

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  • Leaving Israel aside, I think it’s a bit rich that Russia should pipe up and show their disapproval considering their recent history.

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  • malcom 31/01/13 #

    Is Dutch gold sold in Israel?

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  • Surely there must be proof before conviction at them moment its only syria word they’ve constantly trying to bring isreal into the conflict to bolster support

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  • It’s not really that much of a surprise that Russia is in bed with Iran & Hizbollah, They share a common policy the repression of Same-Sex couples & Freedom of Speech.

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  • The UN. The organization that gave Ahmadinejad, who murdered hundreds of his own people during The Green Rovolution, a place to speak during a human rights conference?
    Israel has to defend itself and its actions at every step of the way and nothing is ever good enough – Israel left Gaza years ago and all they got were missiles and mortar shells – on civilians – with the clear intention of hurting as many innocent citizens as possible & forcing Israel to respond.
    Israel is fighting a terror organization – not the Gazan people! If Hamas really cared about the Palestinian people they would stop using Gazans as human shields by locating their rocket launch sites in the midst of civilian areas.
    What do they hope to achieve by kidnapping Soldiers or launching these rockets? Do they think this will force Israel to surrender???? HAMAS & Hizbolllah & their financial backers in the Iranian regime are Gaza’a worst enemy NOT Israel.

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  • Israel kills 2 Syrians (soldiers) and everyones is a flutter with indignation.

    Assad kills 60,000 Syrians and what? Calls for a Boycott? Marches? Nothing but silence.

    Is it contempt for the Arabs? A sort of lack of surprise when they butcher each other.
    A “sure what do you expect from them”?

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  • If Hizbullah get their hands on WMD god help the whole region, not just Israel.

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  • Russia is still supplying Assad with weapons. Ugh, there’s really no hope for the Syrians. They are stuck between a rock and a cock.

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    • Don’t be silly

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    • B Lowe 31/01/13 #

      Of course Russia is supplying weapons to Syria. It has a contract with them.

      What you need to be worried about is the CIA through Turkey sending arms to ‘rebels’ in Syria. As a recent Red Cross report shows there are over a 1,000 different militias operating in Syria now. Many of these are made up of foreign Islamic jihadists who are commiting terrible war crimes.

      So you don’t have a problem with France directly supporting radical islamists in Aleppo?

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    • Your right B Lowe. The mainstream media outlets for whatever reason withhold that information from the world. Only one side of this conflict is being shown.
      Israel was wrong to carry out an air strike.

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  • UN = League of Nations and we all know how good they were !!!

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  • Ps. My original comment was intended for the article re UN decision on settlements but is just a applicable here

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  • Face it israel is a terrorist state.

    They rob land from the Palestinians with impunity and murder and jail people at will.

    Israel is up there with Al’Qaeda and the Taliban as the leading terrorists. They have no respect for anything other than their greedy, expansionist, robbing, murdering selves. An embarrassment to civilised society.

    The sooner the EU stop having anything to do with them the better.

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  • Its gas everyone comes on here and immediately gives out about Israel. Is everyone forgetting Syria and Assad?? Israel bombed a military site that was helping to kill innocents. Maybe if a few more countries had balls like that then there might be a few less orphans in Syria. And to the comment about Israel being basically the scourge of the Arab world?? are you serious?

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    • “Israel bombed a military site that was helping to kill innocents.”

      I take it, so, you would also support Iran hitting Israeli installations that were helping to kill innocents in Gaza?

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    • So far, Jonathan, you have 4 thumbs down & my 1 up,
      I guess the ‘ fools for palestine ‘ brigade are out in force this morning.
      Israel was absolutely correct in their action, – they have made the area much safer.
      - probably saved thousands of Syrian lives, as well as their own.

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  • Fair play to Israel. And how can Russia actually quote the UN charter when it supports assad and turns a blind eye to his atrocities.

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    • More like how can Russia quote the UN Charter after Israel has already violates 32 UN Resoultions against it.

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    • Jonathan, while I initially supported the Arab Spring in Syria, what we have seen there now, is extremely worrying … The extremists on the rebel side, now compile a lot of Al Qaeda type elements.
      We have to be careful what results from that. That is why i think Israel was extremely stupid in its attack today. Whoever takes control of Syria after the civil war, they are going to have it in for Israel, as a result.
      If you ever watch “RT Television” (Russian Television), they are giving a totally different perspective on who is actually doing most of the fighting on the Anti-Assad side.
      Assad should have stepped down at the start, and opened the way for a proper Government to be formed, by moderates. It didn’t happen. Now, because Israel took an arbitrary decision to go and murder civilians without any International approval, it will result in an extremely anti-Israeli Government in place no matter what.
      If the Israelis had gone through the UN, and made its case to the security council that action needed to be taken at suspected sites, then either Assad could have taken actions to ensure that whatever concerns the Israelis had were addressed satisfactorily, or the sites in question could legitimately been dismantled using Internationally authorised force.
      If i was a civilian working at the site, and i knew the site could be attacked at any time, i would definitely have gobne to the local dole office to sign on and started lookeinfor another job. The civilians murdered by Israel, were not given any chance to leave the area. That is why, this is murder, pure and simple.

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    • The UN means nothing. It hounds Israel and never bothers anyone else.

      Sudan were permitted to commit genocide in Darfur because there are around 50 Muslim states who don’t care what other Muslim states do.

      Those states also generally have unfavourable views of Jews, hence all your precious resolutions.

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    • Hi Derek, dont know if you know this or not … there are Jews living in Iran … This is not a religious thing, its about Governments of one nation making arbitrary decisions to bomb the people of another country. Like i said in my previous comment, there are international rules that must be obeyed when planning Military strikes against another country, otherwise the aggressor is nothing other than a Terrorist.

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  • Fair Play to the Russian Authorities for making it crystal clear, once gain, that any breaches of international law will Not be accepted by the Russian Federation!

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  • Cue anti-Israeli rant….

    And the return of the Red Thumb Brigade.

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    • Cue pointless comments

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    • Robin, what makes you so sure, many people are going to red-thumb your comment? Is it something to do with the fact that most normal people dont support arbitrary decisions to attack another country with force. How many civilians were murdered in this assault. What warnings were given to Syria, that if it didnt take certain precautionary measure that it would suffer this type of attack?
      I really like the Israeli people. I have been to Israel many times. I cannot stand the arbitrary decisions taken by extremists who are in control of a massive military force to attack a compound and murder civilians without warning.
      You often attack the IRA for having planted car-bombs etc .. You made a comment about one car-bomb that went off, and a man died from a heart-attack … I agree, no civilians should be murdered… But this is pure hypocrisy, when you think its OK for state terrorism like this. You have never condemned the Dublin/Monaghan bombings either (and supported the call for all the people who colluded in the cover up to be tried and imprisoned).
      Double standards I think on your side. …. I think that is why you will get the red thumbs on your obviously hypocritical comment,

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    • Cue defending the indefensible.

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    • So stating any fact contradictory of belligerent Israeli government policy is anti Israeli. I constantly criticise Irish government policies but I wouldn’t consider myself anti Irish, after all I’m Irish. I protested against apartheid but am not anti white, after all I am white. So surely we must be free to criticise Israeli government policy without being anti Israeli. It was a UN decision. Is the UN therefore anti Israeli or is Israel, which is in contravention of more UN resolutions than Iran, North Korea and Syria added together guilty of gross infringements of human rights. ?

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    • Cue Robin Pickering….. predictable and boring

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    • Some super comments here. Here we go…

      Cal1 – regarding the red thumbs, I knew that any comment not expressly condemning Israel would be seen as supporting Israel, a state which the majority of Irish people seem to regard as a rogue state. Your misinterpretation of my comment supports my opinion – look again and you will see no opinion on the article either way. I merely pointed out that any article containing Israel would provoke an anti-Israeli rant.

      I don’t think state terrorism is ok. Where does it say that I do?

      Actually, I have condemned terrorism from all sides, on this site and others – using my real name – so again, I’m not sure where you have this opinion from. As fora cover-up? I don’t know enough about the Dublin/Monaghan bombings, but I’ll take your word for it. So yes, let’s hear the truth!

      John – good points and well said.

      Tom – are you still upset about your comments being deleted? Making personal attacks adds nothing to the debate. On the contrary.

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    • Robin, thanks for the honest reply … But let me answer it like this to you …
      When the Detective was murdered last week … if i had posted a comment like “Cue the anti-armed gangs rant …. and the red-thumb brigade” as a comment, you could be damn sure i would have expected a similar negative reaction to what you have received with your initial comment. If you are surprised at the responses you have got personally, then think before you post.

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    • Oh no. Those cuddly nice people in Hizbollah just want to hug everybody & be friends with us all. They’d have no intention of indiscriminate murder of innocent people or of martyring their own civilians in pointless attacks on Israel. Perhaps a strongly worded letter would have sufficed.

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    • The indefensible. ie Hamas/Hizbollah & their financial & logistical backers in the Iranian government & their anti-women, anti-gay, anti-education, anti-freedom policies.

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    • Why what Bernard?

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    • Cal1 – I see your point, but you seem to be comparing Israel with armed gangs. Is that the case? Do you really think that?

      Also, regarding personal attacks, I don’t expect them just because someone might disagree with my viewpoint. Do you think it’s ok to racially abuse someone or insult their appearance just because you disagree with them? Do you think I should stop posting?

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    • @ Thomas,
      While I’ve no problem acknowledging Hezbollah are essentially thugs, they aren’t quite anti-everything as your comment states. They’ve enough innocent blood on their hands without making up stuff about them! For starters you’ll find it hard to find anywhere in the Arab world with as many women driving or going to school and college as you will in south Lebanon! In fact there’s probably better education in areas funded by Hezbollah then not. They probably get as much of their support for these reasons as they do for their anti Israeli/pro Iranian policies.

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    • Robin …

      ” Do you think it’s ok to racially abuse someone or insult their appearance just because you disagree with them? Do you think I should stop posting?”

      I have no idea what the hell you are talking about … please enlighten me …

      As regards who is more dangerous …. armed gangs or a right wing extremist Israeli Government … based on the number of innocent civilians murdered by the Israeli Defence Forces in the last 10 years…. i think the answer is obvious …
      At least with an armed gang, they are not carrying Nuclear weapons, 100′s of air-craft, using bombs on civilian populations that are banned by the Geneva conventions …. and they have no hope of ever being brought to justice for their crimes against Humanity.
      Like i said before, i like the Israeli people. I have some good friends throughout Israel. I dont blame the civilians for the murder and mayhem, i blame the right wing Israeli Government. When there was a moderate prime-minister in power there the last time, he was murdered by a right wing extremist.
      So, long story short, Gangs can be caught and dealt with …

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    • I respect Hezbollah’s resistance. The spanking they gave the Zionists in 2006 was – given the balance of forces – quite remarkable.

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    • Cal1 – people on this site who don’t have anything useful to say resort to personal insults and racist remarks. Not you Cal1, others. You said I should think before I post if it bothers me. If it does bother me do you think I should stop posting?

      We obviously disagree on the comparison between armed gangs and Israel. That’s ok. Israel isn’t an ideal state – far from it. But it doesn’t sit in a region surrounded by ideal states either.

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    • Everyones opinion should be valued.. I mean that honestly. I do my best not to personally insult people (although i have fallen into that on occasion myself). I 100% understand the background to Israeli paranoia about its security. I am fully supportive of a secure Israel, based on pre-1967 borders. Many of my Israeli friends have said the same thing. They have even suggested giving the Golan heights back to Syria etc.
      I do not accept the right of one Nation to arbitrarily attacking another country, without using the appropriate international forum to get approval.
      That would be like the British being right to car-bomb Dublin/Monaghan/Belturbet. To me, when a country does this, they shouldnt be surprised when car bombs land on their own front door. I am not condoning terrorism, but when you act outside the law, you must accept the consequences. That is the entire point of my argument all along. Unfortunately, it wont be the Israeli PM that suffers from his decision, or the pilot of the plane who dropped the bombs. It never is the leaders, its always the poor civilians that bare the brunt of very very bad decisions. And do the cycle of violence continues.
      There had been relative peace over the last few weeks. The Israelis had only killed 2 unarmed youths in the last 2 months. This action today is going to cause untold ramifications.

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    • By the way, i just gave your last comment a thumbs up…. :) Ma Shalom

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    • Petr, do you really think that Hezbollah could give Israel a spanking? Btw, so you are for armed conflict.

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    • You don’t know your history, Declan. Why am I not surprised?!

      I don’t think there’s anything inherently shameful about armed struggle. Do you?

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    • If the UN proposed a motion that Israel had created cancer & spread it throughout the world as part of a Zionist plot, The UN supported by 50 odd Islamic countries & those dependent on oil imports would support that motion. The UN is a waste of time & money.

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    • You seem to be saying that the UN is a waste of time because it criticises Israel. It is right to, Israel has operated outside international law and norms since its founding.

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    • Petr, I would say that i have a good grasp of history.

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  • There is a powerful and coordinated attempt now to fuel anti-IIsrael opinion!! – for those who want to see where their tax dollars are being spent this report from Ashraf Ramelah of “Voice of the Copts” makes for highty informative reading. As they say follow the money!! – Rene http://www.voiceofthecopts.org/index.php/categories/op-eds/9704-expose-how-much-does-the-war-on-israel-cost-europe

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  • that should read at least Israel did something. apologies lest anyone think i agree with cal1! lol

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  • @cal1 i do watch rt but i also watch al jazeera and that definitely gives a different perspective to rt. Yes assad should have stepped down early yes both sides commit atrocities but my point remains. No one stands up to Syria. You might as well compare it to our useless tribunals. a lot if talking but nothing being done. the un would never have sanctioned an attack. that system and organisation is defunct and obsolete. it was a military site so it was fair game. and as to if you were there you’d quit and join the done??? seriously you think they have welfare in Syria? the president is murdering his civilians but you think they have welfare??

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    • “it was a military site so it was fair game.”

      No. Its not. According to international law its illegal and an act of war.

      Unless you’re willing to concede that Israeli military sites are ‘fair game’ when they’re bombarding Gaza?

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    • Jonathan, their are rules of engagement and charters on Human rights, along with Geneva Conventions etc … There is also common sense …
      What Israel has done, is provoke the ire of the Arab world in its arbitrary decision to bomb Syria, Again, i ask you, if Iran decided to fly a few jets to the Israeli Nuclear sites, and dropped a few missiles into the site, killing people, but at the same time, destroying Israels suspected Nuclear arsenal…. as a preemptive strike, in case Israel decided to threaten to use the weapons… would Iran be right?
      Its a rhetorical question by the way …
      Israel had NO right to bomb Syria, unless its trying to provoke Iran into making an attack on it, as a precursor to Israel launching an attack on Irans suspected Nuclear facilities…..
      Either way, Israel was 100% wrong, and can’t see further than the end of its face …
      You say that because it was a military site that the people there, deserve to die??? What a crazy, terrorist type statement to make…

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    • @ Cal1, Now, because Israel took an arbitrary decision to go and murder civilians without any International approval, it will result in an extremely anti-Israeli Government in place no matter what.
      Are you really that naive to believe that if Israel had not attacked this site or convoy that the government that gets in after Assad would have extended the hand of friendship to Israel? I think not, the arab spring has been set up around the arab world by the Muslim brotherhood, a terrorist organisation, and hijacked by Al-queda in Syria and they are trying it in Jordan also, Assad is an evil tyrant and no friend of Israel but he is nothing to whats coming. and don’t believe for one minute they will stop there, in their plan, once they have gained control of the Middle East and wiped America out of existence as a world power, then its Europe their sights are set upon, these people are Muslim extremists, they care nothing even about their the moderate Muslims around the world, these guys are Jihadists, do you really believe they will go by the so called rules of the International community , Geneva convention or UN human rights, do don’t care less, they are murdering Christians and feeding their bodies to dogs in Syria, they are raping and murdering women and children, these are not people you can deal with, these are buchers with no thought to human life what-so-ever, that will take your head in the twinkling of an eye if you do not convert to Islam, no questions asked. They won’t stick to the “Rules” of war when they setting of dirty nuke bombs in Europe and killing millions, and its coming, so please don’t kid yourself about these leaders to be, or the government in Egypt, they are the same and the people in Egypt now understand that Morsi is worse the Mubarak ever was. Hezbollah is only waiting to get their hands on Assads chemical weapon stockpile so they can launch against Israel, so Israel (if they attacked) were right to attack, if i knew my enemy had handed over a weapon to a terrorist that was coming to kill my family, I would attack him first and so would you. Israel do not go out of their way to kill civilians, they try and avoid it, does Assad, Hezbollah, Hamas, Morsi,? did Gadaffi, Sadam Hussain? People really need to open their eyes to the real enemy before they creep up on you, and they will, its coming around, mark my words.

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  • Russia getting its knickers in a twist about UN charters, I think not, just some sabre rattling to make sure we all remember they’re still playing in the big boy league…..

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  • I am of the opinion that Ireland should pull out of the UN until the Veto is striped from the security council nations all it does is hinder us this situation in Syria has been going on for too long.

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  • since when does Iran only have suspected nuclear facilities? and @cal1 what would you do with Syria? typical Irish ? sit back and see or lets talk about it? red tape is actually costing lives as we speak. at least Syria did something. maybe it was illegal or mauve it was necessary and the rules need changing.

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  • Seriously mate could you ever open your mind. If Israel vanished in the morning. Saudi , Egypt, Yemen, Libya,Mali would all be the same.
    Grow up, your one of these fools who likes to blame Israel for ecerything

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