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Call for “fair and transparent” Magdalene compensation package

The group proposes a figure of €100,000 lump sum compensation for Magdalene survivors, in addition to a package of services including pensions and lost wages.

The site of the former Magdalene Laundry on Sean MacDermott Street in Dublin.
The site of the former Magdalene Laundry on Sean MacDermott Street in Dublin.
Image: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

JUSTICE FOR MAGDALENES (JFM) has called on the Government to provide Magadalene Laundry survivors with a “fair, non-adversarial and transparent compensation package”.

They made the call after Justice and Equality Minister Alan Shatter said that a comprehensive package was being worked on following the publication of the McAleese report into the laundries.

Agreement

JFM said is in agreement with the London Irish Women Survivors Support Group and Magdalene Survivors Together that a package needs to be prepared that includes pensions, healthcare and counselling, housing services and advice.

In addition, we are also in agreement that lump sum compensation must be paid to the women, to compensate for the effects of the abuse that they suffered in the laundries.

JFM devised its own reparations scheme in consultation with surviving women in Ireland, the UK and the US, and also with Councillor Sally Mulready and Phyllis Morgan of the Irish Women’s Survivors’ Support Group in London. It submitted its scheme on 14 October 2011 and said it has consistently sought meetings to discuss it further with the Minister.

The group proposes a benchmark figure of €100,000 lump sum compensation for Magdalene survivors, in addition to a package of services including pensions and lost wages.

It says this amount “reflects that women are foregoing important legal rights to go before the courts”. JFM said it is most concerned that any government package “should not continue to take advantage of the acute financial and other needs of surviving women”.

Yesterday, Magdalene survivors spoke with the Taoiseach, Enda Kenny. Afterwards, they said they expect a heartfelt apology from him on behalf of the State in Dáil Éireann on Tuesday.

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Comments (45 Comments)

  • just make sure this time the church pays the whole whack

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  • I think both State and the religious orders are jointly responsible but as it seems the religious orders were the ones who financially benefitted from the labours of these girls and women, I think they should bear the bulk of any compensation that is paid out.

    It would be only fair that each of the women are made as financially, physically and psychologically comfortable in their senior years as is possible. In no way can anything be done now to make up what was stolen from them in their youths but every effort should be made to alleviate them of any financial worries and allow them to live the remainder of their lives in comfort.

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  • I hope this govt doesn’t do a Fianna Fail and let the religious orders off the hook for a pittance. Tell them not to bother with a retirement gift for the pope and to pay the women they abused as slaves the wages and pension contributions they’re owed.

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  • No matter how much they get its not enough. When you look at the shit they had to go through and the hours they worked its only going to be a small consolation. They can’t get their lives back . The church have a lot to answer for in this country , they abused young and old . No organisation should have that kind of power . Can anyone imagine being sent to those places by the people that supposedly love you the most and leave you there for years.

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  • I do believe these women should recieve a payment for what they were true and the unpaid work they done, but what I wonder is where does the compensation stop. I like many of my generation was beat every day at school, humiliated, shamed and had my early life shaped in a negative way by cruel and at least one psychotic teacher. At some point you have to say this is who I am, This is where I came from, Yes an apology would be lovely but if we go down the road of trying to financially compensate everybody, it’s impossible. Everything is not about money.

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  • I thought the apology was about admitting a terrible wrong had been done not about the pursuit of money……….

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  • What a mess.

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  • As long as the victims are happy with this, that should be all that matters. I think the compensation should be payed jointly by the Church and the State because between them they carried this out hand-in-hand.

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  • Harry C 17/02/13 #

    Where will all this end. Will the children that suffered corporal punishment in schools get an apology. Horrific abuse handed down to kids up and down the country. I witnessed and received beatings from teachers working for the church and state. Im sorry but I don’t want my children to have to pay for these abuses.

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  • The survivors of the Industrial schools supposedly received 600 million, but in actual fact the sum they received was 100 million. The state and the church operated a clawback system. They had control of the funds, and used the remaining 500 million to set up educational and counselling services, and built a hospital.

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  • 1st blame goes to their parents/family who in the majority of cases were the ones to send them there. Laundries were just figurativly and literal cleasing society stain

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  • Smiley 17/02/13 #

    The Vatican should pay, or the Irish church. Not the government or taxpayers.

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    • mart_n 17/02/13 #

      Why should the state not have to pay part of it? As a society, the people of the time allowed the abuses to happen, the government of the day facilitated it in a big way. Politicians supported the asylums, and Gardai acted as their wardens; pursuing and placing girls into their care.

      If Ireland wants to move on, it needs to accept that the church aren’t solely responsible for all of its historic problems. To say otherwise is to accept that we were/are to weak to exercise our own free will. Our own parents and grandparents likely turned a blind eye to what was happening at the time. We shouldn’t do the same, especially given the fact that hindsight is on our side.

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    • tom 18/02/13 #

      The blame has to be State then church and finally the Irish people.

      At the time everyone had a part to play in this horrible shameful part of history.

      Just as we have a part to play today with 1 in 5 chrildren going to school hungry.

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    • Smiley 18/02/13 #

      Mart_n &Tom. I disagree. The state may have sent women there, as did their own relatives, but it was the nuns who inflicted the cruelty. She who does the crime does the time. In this case the Church-sponsored nuns. The church should pay. They are a business whose job is peddling religion. Any other business would have to pay. Why shouldn’t they?

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  • Pity the redress board didn’t make this large payment to people too .. They deserve it and more .

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  • people get unbelievable amounts of money for hurt feelings these days or they claim they were overlooked for promotion for any other reason than they did not deserve to be promoted! state abuse victims appear to be at the bottom of the pile when it comes to both justice and compensation.

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  • They should all get at least a million euro at least for ruining their lives.

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  • never getting married in a church . u hate nuns and priests its all blabber. they did bad to boys aswell. i feel sick thinking about it. what i cant understand is why was it all the girls fault and not the fellas it takes two to tango . idiots.

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  • The McAleese Report has washed the Magdalene Laundries Whiter than a Magdalene Laundry Sheet; With the “Missing” record has set up the Government for another Indemnity Deal!

    The Indemnity Deal was Unconstitutional and was never debated in the Dail?
    Yet it still Stands Unchallenged??

    The Government should have held their hands up and Commissioned an Inquiry? The Religious Orders still have a Stranglehold over the HSE?

    They haven’t even had the decency to finish paying for the last Indemnity Deal! Unless I am mistaken?

    As for a Government Apology I hope it is better and more Sincere than the Last one?

    Bertie Ahern Apologised to Survivors of the Industrial Schools then opened International Christian Brothers Centre. This renders his Apology Worthless! http://bit.ly/JLiBqi

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    • .. and only recently former President Mary McAleese (spouse of author of McAleese Report) attended a function for the founder of a Religious Order that facilitated abusers and covered up the physical & sexual torture of Irish children!

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  • same Irish politicial partys then as now guilty involved

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  • “Clerical abuse #Ryan Report congregations worth “20 billion” “? The Nuns Can Pay!! http://bit.ly/Z37Qe7

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  • I understand that the situation must have been horrible for these survivors. But unfortunately the state is broke and we can’t afford to offer compensation now, savings would have to be made elsewhere.

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