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Magdalene survivors “expect apology next week”

Meanwhile, the Justice for Magdalenes group has published a redacted version of its principal submission on the laundries online.

The site of the former Magdalene Laundry on Sean MacDermott Street in Dublin.
The site of the former Magdalene Laundry on Sean MacDermott Street in Dublin.
Image: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

MAGDALENE SURVIVORS HAVE said that they are expecting an apology from Taoiseach Enda Kenny next week, following a meeting they held with him today in London.

RTÉ reports that in a press conference following the two and a half hour-long meeting, they said that he listened to everything that they had to say, which they welcomed.

They described Kenny as sympathetic, and said they believed they will receive a heartfelt apology from the Taoiseach on Tuesday during a Dáil debate on the issue.

Debate

Also today, Justice for Magdalenes (JFM), the survivor advocacy group, said it is looking forward to the debate on the Magdalene Laundries Report in Dáil Éireann this coming Tuesday.

In advance of the debate, JFM is publishing a redacted version of its principal submission to the inter-departmental committee investigating State involvement with the Magdalene Laundries.

It said it is doing this with full permission from those who submitted their testimonies.

Our group welcomes the findings in the committee’s final report of “significant” and “direct” State involvement.  We are concerned, however, that members of the Oireachtas and the general public have the opportunity to read and consider testimony from survivors and family members of conditions experienced within these institutions.

JFM’s principal submission can be accessed via its website. JFM is also encouraging members of the Oireachtas and the general public to read its Reparations and Restorative Justice Scheme, submitted to the Department of Justice on 14 October 2011, which can be accessed via its website.

The group is also inviting all members of the Oireachtas to a briefing on the Magdalene Laundries Report that is co-sponsored by Amnesty-International, Ireland, the Irish Council for Civil Liberties, and JFM at Leinster House, at 12 noon on Tuesday.

Finally, JFM said it is calling on the public to stand in solidarity with survivors of the Magdalene Laundries and their families at a candlelit vigil to outside Dáil Éireann on Tuesday at 5pm.

The National Women’s Council of Ireland (NWCI) has coordinated the vigil, at which the singer Mary Coughlan will participate.

Magdalene Survivors Together

Magdalene Survivors Together said that on Tuesday they will attend the long awaited Dáil debate.

Steven O’ Riordan, head of the group, said that they will hold a press conference outside the Dáil after the debate, where they will also discuss how they feel they should be compensated for their loss of wages and their ideas for a national monument.

Maureen Sullivan, survivor and member of the Magdalene Survivors Together group, said:

Who would have imagined that a little over seven years ago, I along with all these other women would be going into the Dáil to hear a leader of our country apologise for what happened to us? Never in my wildest dreams did I think this would happen but it looks like it will. It just goes to show that you must never give up, ever.

Magdalene Survivors Together has also requested that the Taoiseach include St Mary’s Training Centre, Stanhope Street, Dublin and St Mary’s Training Centre, Summerhill, Wexford in his apology.

O’ Riordan said that MST have submitted over 10 survivor testimonies along with photos outlining their reasons for them to be included.

On Wednesday 20 February at 7.30pm, TG4 will screen Steven O’ Riordan’s The Forgotten Maggies documentary.

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Comments (25 Comments)

  • The magadaline laundries should be examined by forensic accountants and wages and pensions paid to each and every woman who ever worked there. magadaline properties should be sold to pay for it, and if the need be ,nuns evicted from properties bought with the sweat of the stolen childhoods of Irish children. The Vatican need to step in here as they received money collected from convents and religious organisations without question through the years.

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  • Great news.

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    • Flaps 16/02/13 #

      What has it got to do with the current government… it would be of the same significance if I said sorry for what happened…

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    • Why don’t good Irish Catholics comes out and protest against the hierarchy of the church for its silence on this matter. Do they not care about their image . As Elie Weisel once wrote: “I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” -

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    • According to Dante, the great Italian Catholic poet : “The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.”

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    • Spot on Tony.
      All the TD’s
      All the Senior Civil Servants,
      Including our “National Broadcaster” RTE
      should be included.

      Those ladies were very brave to go on the Late Late on RTE last night.
      The same RTE that basically said nothing about these slave camps for decades.
      And they call it a media organization??
      RTE basically said nothing about these slave camps or decades,
      just as they basically said nothing about the perverts and pedophiles in the Catholic Church for decades.
      and just as they are saying basically nothing today about the people who are being tortured and taking their own lives at the hands of the corrupt and criminal bankers that broke our country.

      Disgusting!!
      Truly Disgusting!!

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  • A considered and measured response is exactly what a Taoiseach should give. He has not just taken McAleses word for it either. He’s taken the time to meet them in person. The survivor groups seem quite happy with his stance. That’s all that counts…

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  • should have came long time ago

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  • Still dont know why the apology is taking so long.

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  • They should be getting a hell of a lot more than an ‘apology’ – disgraceful what happened to those women.

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  • If any of those women were my mum,aunt sister I would steer clear of politics and hone in on the perpetrators and beneficiaries of the slave labour.

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  • About time.

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  • How much does the image on the story remind you if the arbiet macht frei signs over the Nazi concentration camps.

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    • Excellent point. The Magdalene laundries were just like Nazi Concentration camps. Whereas the operators of the Nazi Concentration camps promised freedom, the operators of the Magdalene laundries promised absolution from sin. A distinction without a difference.

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  • Is there any reason why the Journal isn’t reporting on this story ?
    http://www.stuartwilde.com/2013/02/popeseeks-immunity-protection-from-italian-president/

    More on it here http://itccs.org/

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  • Ok we apologise. Ok? No lawsuits please as we re really not responsible and don’t want to pay for what idiots did 50 years ago.

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  • This is just typical of this government.

    Kenny deliberately does not apologise.. Is criticised for not doing so…
    and then is embarrassed into doing it a week later!

    Someone should tell them doing stuff like this makes them look (even more) like a bunch of clowns.

    Just do the right fecking thing from the start!

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  • A bit shallow now that he’s been forced into it by weight of public opinion.

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  • It’s a sad day when our government plans a date to officially apologise. Instead of announcing a date, they could have just apologised today.

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  • There is no sincerity in a reluctant, delayed and begrudging apology.

    The Taoiseach has handlers, lawyers and many others who could have distiller the report for him. It is an easily comprehensible report. I am sorry for your misfortune is not good enough.

    One does not expect better from religious orders. They are inhumane, repressive and cruel by nature. The problem was the State’s problem. It is for the State to apologise.

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  • A BEAUTIFUL QUOTE FROM PARADISO from a 1905 edition of the book

    O MILIZIA DEL CIEL, CU’ IO CONTEMPLO ADORA PER COLOR CHE SONO IN TERRA TUTTI SVIATI RETRO AL MALO ESEMPLO

    O Soldiery of heaven whom i look upon, pray for them who have all gone astray on earth, following the ill example

    IN REFERENCE TO ILLGOTTEN GAINS OPPRESSION CRUELTY SUCH AS THE WOMEN INCARCERATED AND REPETITIVE ACTIONS maybe not in laundries but maybe other types of insitutions by professionals or elite or corporates or pr spin machines. paid well for the politicians or three pieces or political workings…

    do they lock people up now for disputing with politicians or representitives or educated types with their huge pension reserves and bias towards vulnerable individuals or legal efforts to silence oppress or fear or is this 2013 re hierarchials etc or doctors or church types bullying women or homeless or throwing people out of churches who arent married or threaten to arrest them……… or would that be a fabrication….. as in not.

    are they serious about their apologies for these survivors and their families or do they pay for a public relations speech at a cost for worry re liability or insurance or recrimination on previous governments etc..

    how much does the vatican have in stocks or are they refusing to honour these women and survivors of enslavement or bullied or children forcibly taken by individuals who thought they may of known best.. or priests who never even had families but instead work with other individuals or officials re recent clause in change to constitution and hierarchial hypocrisy.. can i be locked up for typing… what would that indicate in particular education or types not having laundries but maybe other means of intimidation or unwelcome inappropriate harrassment or other issues to try silence oppress or call the crazy.. as in not always as that which appears as such……… just a thought.. some like their three holidays a year or pensions or retired politician pay for years to come after seeing this is the legal standing at the moment and they seem to be well catered for long term with very very substancial tidings and “good work” ahem for their great “political efforts over the past twenty to thirty years”

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  • The Magdelene women are so charitable to be grateful that Enda Kenny meets them. I’d forget about Enda and his long awaited apology, just sue the state and get properly compensated. Fine Gael’s stance on this considered “apology” shows how hypocritical Noonan’s apology was to the family of Bridget McCole.

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    • I’m sure the apology will come now not because evil Kenny wanted to make it but because he was pressurised by Michael Martin and that distinguished worthy and humanitarian Gerry Adams.

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    • Angie
      In responding to your comments I would prefer to be charitable and regard your unpleasant tone as uneducated rather than deliberately mischievous .
      I have no doubt that the Taoiseachs response has been shaped by a Report ( which he commissioned) of over a thousand pages which needed to be fully read and understood before a considered response could be given. There were those who believed that he should have responded before he had read the response. Mary Lou McDonald was one such person who attempted to pressurize Mr Kenny into a premature opinion that would not have well served the victims of this unpleasant part of our history as a Nation.
      Having read the Report the Taoiseach has taken considerable time to meet the representatives of these women and will give a reflective and considered response in the debate next week.
      Why would you urge them to sue when the only people to benefit from such action would be the lawyers and such a process could take years?

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