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New figures on homophobic bullying ‘not surprising’

A new study has found that two thirds of young gay men have experienced homophobic bullying in secondary school, while young gay women are more likely to be bullied than their non-gay peers.

BELONGTO, THE GROUP which provides support services to young gay people has said that the results of a study which shows that two thirds of young gay men have experienced homophobic bullying are not surprising.

The research, carried out at the Anti-Bullying Centre in Trinity College Dublin, showed that one third of young gay females also reported having been bullied in secondary school.

The Irish Examiner reports today that 824 fifth-year students across nine schools were surveyed.

Michael Barron, executive director of BeLongTo told TheJournal.ie that figures which show that bullying of young gay woman is more likely to happen were not surprising, and said that while bullying of young gay men get “more airing”, it’s also a huge issue for young women.

Barron said that “the level of harassment that some people can experience can be very upsetting”. He said that the period when young gay people are most vulnerable is the time from when they realise they are gay, to the time when they tell someone.

According to Barron one of the biggest changes that his group has seen is more and more young people coming out as gay or bisexual while they’re still in school, but he said that homophobic bullying is “ever-present”.

The study also found that heterosexual students reported that they had suffered homophobic bullying. Barron said that there is a certain level of tolerance towards homophobic language, and while some teachers are excellent and dealing with it, some can “just give up and not bother tackling it”.

He said that it is urgent that all teachers need to ensure that gay young people are treated equally and that homophobic bullying is taken as seriously as other forms.

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  • “everyone gets picked on” – guys, ludicrous. you should not automatically be bullied because of who you are the way gays always are. nobody else is automatically and routined bullied, can you not see the difference?

    gays need extra guidance in schools because being gay is still largely unacceptable. i listened to a group of boys recently on the bus and for 20 minutes ALL they talked about was ‘ripping the piss out of that faggot’ or ‘he’s such a bender’ ‘what a queer’, they were completely obsessed and it took me back to being petrified every day of teenage life. its an epidemic, a silent killer. so many teens commit suicide because they are gay. no other demographic is forced to change their personalities, move countries etc out of fear the ways gays do. you just don’t know how dreadful a situation like that is until its happening to you. it IS is a special case unlike others and it does need affirmative action.

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  • I was the chair of a school board in the UK where we had a 12 year old girl kicked to death by two other girls, 12 and 13, coming from a fair. We need to be forever on , up and doing everything we can to prevent bullying.

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  • Not surprised. Usually whenever myself and my girlfriend are walking down the streets holding hands its grand, but whenever there are smart comments its teenage boys/guys in their early 20′s. The other day a group of 12 year olds started yelling at us faggots. If they can yell that at two women in their 20′s on the street they they can do much worse in the schools. In hindsight I’m glad I didn’t have the guts to come out properly in school seeing what people in school coming out do go through!

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  • As somebody who came out when I was in school back in the 90′s i know that things have not changed. Teenagers do pick on each other for various things and its all about trying to fit in. But the problem when you are bullied for being gay, lesbian or just a bit camp in school breeds the idea that gay people are not equal. its time that educating young people that difference and respect is whats important.. not the attitude of burying our head in the sand and letting things be the way they have always been.

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    • I’m not gay so I obviously can’t comment on what it is like to be gay or to be bullied for being so. I can only comment on my own experiences of being bullied and suffering from serious depression for about 2 years as a result. I don’t think it fair to say that a gay person suffers more from bullying than a straight person. Bullying is bullying no matter what form it comes in and the effects are the same. Schools often take a very relaxed attitude to bullying in all its forms.

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    • No one said it was a competition of who suffers more. I’m sure all kinds of bullying are bad. The horrible fact is that sometimes when it comes to homophobic bullying it comes from teachers aswell. There is a serious lack of education and acceptance in schools when it comes to lgbt people.

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  • In spite of the changing face of Irish society, many people, including some of those that publicly declare themselves as fully accepting homosexuality, still have difficulties coming to terms with it. I think that there’s an over emphasis on gay sex as opposed to gay love. This should be the primary focus of educators. It is the societal perception that gay sex is deviant that attracts ridicule and fuels bullying.

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  • too true. well said Michael.

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  • Agreed Cecily. To the “thumb downers” let me ask you – what if your own children were to become victims of homophobic bullying? Would you be as quick to dismiss and “thumb down” Kate and Cecily’s comments and the article in general?

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    • Ah but, Brendan, these people could never get to grips with the possibility that one (or more) of their own precious brood would turn out “like that.” Moreover, they would probably take the question as a slanderous insult. What you’re asking is for people – who have little capacity to do so – to empathise. I’m willing to bet that there’ll be some numpty who’ll soon suggest that these kids act a bit straighter or (more predictably) not ‘rub people’s faces in it.’ Kinda like the old “don’t wear short skirts if you don’t want to get raped” rubbish that was trotted out in less enlightened times.

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    • keyese 02/09/11 #

      not on my watch sister.

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  • We should tackle the issue of gayness at source. Gay people almost always have straight parents. I think we should start attacking straight couples before they have any gay children*

    *comment not to be taken seriously, if either of my children come out as they get older I will of course be happy that they have found love, rather than the alternative of being alone and unhappy trying to deny who they are. There’s enough despair in the world

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  • Wow. A thumbs-down Kate’s message (and, I imagine, the message in the article itself)? I was *wondering* how long it would take the fükwits to show up.

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  • Just a slight correction, everyone – the research referred to was done by me (at the School of Education, TCD), rather than by the Anti-Bullying Centre (I was a member there, and am still listed as such – hence the mistake in the original article – but am not any more). If anyone wants to get in touch about the research, feel free to look me up via TCD’s website.

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  • Obama says it like it is……….

    http://www.itgetsbetter.org/video/entry/geyafbsdpvk/

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  • Years ago , while coming home in the bosses highace van George micheal came on the radio commenting about one of his , ahem, " outdoor adventures" and the boss said : the gay ba***rd! , us lowly workers were sharing a relaxing ciggy so this outburst was a bit of a shock, and my mate Brendan said to the boss that he should be a bit more tolerant as one day one of the bosses 2 young sons might come home one day and announce that they were gay ( they were 5 and 2 ) His reply? " ah sure there’ll be a cure be then!"

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  • Teenagers bully each other, whether it be for being gay, tall, fat, skinny, poor, rich or whatever. This is just how teenagers work. Its all about asserting social dominance and this has always been the case. We should count ourselves lucky that we don’t have the nightmare that is the social jungle of American High schools.

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    • Barry 01/09/11 #

      Your comment suggests bullying of any kind is just the norm and we should put up with it,

      I’m afriad that bullying it’s a completely unacceptable behaviour in school, college and in the work place.

      Many bullys go on to continue to bully in later life, be it in the work place or in relationships. We need to do what we can to stop such situations

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    • Not at all, bullying is never acceptable. I agree that we should try to eradicate this, but that doesn’t mean that we will ever be able to eradicate bullying. Some people are just c****. The only way I was able to stop the bullying I experienced as a teenager was by meeting the bullies with violence. Its the only language these people understand.

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  • I think we should get the Anti-Bullying Centre in Trinity College to bully the perpetrators and see how they like it!!!!

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  • Has someone been slipping something in our water (other than fluoride) to make us all very very sensitive,especially our Gay friends, everyone gets picked on , not just Gay people , some can deal with it and fight back some cannot . Its called life , education will solve 99 percent of problems ,assertiveness training worked for me .However and i stand to be corrected on this , if all else fails a two by four to the base of the skull when the bully is not looking also works. My Grandad told me bully the bully they won’t like it .

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    • Yes, Anthony. You do actually end up being a wee bit sensitive when you’re constantly hearing homophobic comments from your peers and teachers, in the knowledge that nobody in your school gives enough of a damn to help. I’m sorry you seem to think people should “deal with it”. The thing is that nobody should have to. Nobody should have to put up with their teachers effectively treating them, or referring to them, as subhuman, let alone their peers. This doesn’t just go for homophobia, needless to say. Shrugging your shoulders and saying “well, that’s life, whatever” is a completely appalling attitude to have. Apathy lets bullying and homophobia continue, at best. At worst, it’s encouragement. I’m honestly shocked by how little empathy you’re displaying here. (Also, you’re pretty much just saying here ‘hey queer teens, you think you’re being treated horribly now? Just wait ’til adulthood, you’re see what being treated horribly REALLY is!’ Great message of hope and joy there, bro. No, really. So inspiring. You should be in the ‘It Gets Better’ campaign.)
      As to “education [solving] 99 percent of problems”, thanks so much for this advice! SO helpful in the context of teenage bullying! Hey kids, being bullied? Do assertiveness training, that will stop hate crime! WAIT, HOLD ON, NO IT WON’’T. When you provide a ‘solution’, ask yourself “does this make any sense in context, or do I look preachy and unsympathetic?” (HINT: it’s the latter.) Please don’t tell LGBTC&c. teens they can solve all (or 99% of, whatever) their problems if they only do [blank], at the same time as denying a real problem exists. That doesn’t even make sense. How about you aim your ‘advice’ at someone OTHER than the victims? It’d help, all I’m sayin’.
      But I dunno, maybe I’m just being an oversensitive little teenage queer, huh? I should just get the hell over the fact that some of my teachers think I’m a filthy sinner for EXISTING, right? I should totally grow up. Definitely making a fuss over nothing here, amn’t I? God, lesbian drama, amiright? LULZ.

      (WHOA long post is long. Righteous fury=it takes up a lot of space.)

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    • No-one is attacking anyone here wind your teenage neck in Aisling , when you get a bit older you will understand that the person responsible for dealing with your life is your self. I am sorry that i am not rubbing your head and tummy and sound a bit old and silly but i am from the school of hard knocks and have learnt through my long life and experience that no amount of support groups will stop a bully.Only direct action stops a bully ,ie the two by four i hope you solve your issues in the best way you can and wish you luck . You really sound anxious Aisling, its not the end of the world being Gay or confused i was a teenager once and understand, adults don’t sprout from womb you grow up and learn your own way , chill out look for some help to find your way ,i found mine on my own.

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    • Well you’ve obviously never suffered the type of bullying which leads many teenagers to take their lives. Read a little, check out some of the anti-bullying websites and when you educate yourself on the facts then maybe comment, until then you just come across as a dumb uneducated no mark with little empathy for fellow human beings. In fact you sound like someone who probably was/is a bully. And your grandfather was very wrong, violence and bullying solves nothing.

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    • Calling me a no mark and dumb and ignorant isn’t name calling Richard you are beneath contempt you confused hypocrite you are the bully. I believe in fighting back but if lying down and taking it works for you go for it.I don’t have to go on websites to see the truth i have experience of being bullied as a child and bullying in life and have come out the other side by fighting back not crying about it.Teenagers are the same to today as they were when i was one ,some cruel some kind ,you or i don’t have all the answers i just related what works for me and you call me names.Not all child suicides are from bullying do some research yourself and you will get your ignorant eyes opened.

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  • keyese 02/09/11 #

    nah

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