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Column: Markets like Moore St are the heart of our cities, and must be saved

The humble street market is in danger of being forgotten as developers move in – but it represents our real heritage, writes Barry Kennerk.

Barry Kennerk

‘GO DOWN TO Moore Street and get your nose educated’, the entertainer Jimmy O’Dea once said. Today, that dictum is more likely to apply to the smell of Middle Eastern spices or the aroma of French bread. FX Buckley’s, a long-established butcher shop has reintroduced pig heads and cow tongues.

“We’re doing fish that we’ve never done before,” says fish monger Margaret Buckley.  ”We used to throw back monkfish, now it’s one of the dearest; and then we’re doing squid, we’re doing sea bass, sea bream, John Dory, fish heads – they make soup out of them.”

The accommodation has not always been an easy one. In recent years, Dublin has witnessed an influx of foreign nationalities – those same people who single-handedly reversed a steep inner city population decline for the first time in decades, bringing with them a demand for new, more cosmopolitan foodstuffs and a fresh influx of ideas. As a result, today, one can now find Halal meat and Chinese food in the market alongside the more traditional fare sold on generations-old fixed pitches called “stannin’s”.

But in a sense, Moore Street has always been an international space. Even before the First World War, Egyptian onions were sold there and one often forgets the distance over which fruits such as the humble banana had to travel.

‘Much abused’

At the time of writing however, all of these businesses – old and new – continue to exist in the shadow of a proposed shopping centre development. As the argument rages, it may seem as though the traditional traders are in danger of being forgotten – a familiar story in the market’s long history. If developments get under way, there are talks of them being moved temporarily to nearby Wolfe Tone Street and many of them fear that once that happens they will never be allowed to return.

Patrick Cooney, spokesman for the Save Moore Street Campaign, is as much an advocate for the traders as he is for the street he is trying to save. As he points out, both go hand in hand: “They have been much abused for decades by the city planners. I have always seen them as unpaid ambassadors for the city. It is amazing that they are still there.”

It is still not too late. Some semblance of the old Moore Street market could still be recreated by pedestrianising Moore Lane and O’Rahilly Parade, renovating lock-ups and garages and turning them over to clothes sellers, dealers in small craft goods and other products. The area needs an integrated selling experience – not a fragmented one. As one trader points out: “In every country of the world, a market place is a market place, no matter what.”

In Dublin, each trader, regardless of whether they work from a fixed pitch or a pram, pays a rate to the City Council under the terms of the Casual Trading Act – a system that causes them to adopt an individual, rather than a collective approach to selling. In some parts of the market, this has led to a glut of too many people selling the same fruit or vegetable product and diversification is badly needed.

Life after hours

The answer may be to bring in a management agency. These are commonplace in many other city markets, where organisation is the key to survival. It would allow for private policing to help eliminate counterfeit trade for instance or assistance to the traders, encouraging some to diversify into baked goods, dairy, condiments and even craft products.

Another aspect of the plan would be to bring the market to life after hours. The metal stalls, which currently lie idle in the street by night and on Sundays, could be removed to a storage area, leaving the street open to continental-style restaurants and cafes.

So much of what has been written about Moore Street over the past fifty years has been retrospective. Newspaper pieces and magazine articles have tended to commemorate rather than celebrate what remains of it, but it is important to recognise that there is still a living market there.

From the stoic flower seller who can still be heard telling her jostling customers that “patience is a virtue”, to the fishmonger guarding her produce from the craw of an expectant seagull, Moore Street’s traders are the very essence of the city. Without them the cobbles mean very little. They are the real living heritage in the centre of Dublin – the “heart of the rowl” – whose way of life is worth saving before it is too late.

Barry Kennerk is the author of Moore Street – The Story of Dublin’s Market District, available now from Mercier Press with a foreword by Joe Duffy.

Do you have any memories of Moore Street, or other street markets around Ireland? Leave them in the comments below.

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Comments (40 Comments)

  • Moore street during the eighties brings back mixed memories. When you bought what you thought were cut price vegetables, you usually found yourself with half rotten produce when you got home. The sleight of hand tricks were unseen. They would show you the fresh produce and then give you the almost rotten goods. They ruined their own reputation for a fast buck. Having said that, the fishmongers were more honest. Perhaps, it was because if their produce was off, it would be obvious. I used to be able to buy three dabs for a pound. These were the poor relations of Plaice.. The more my fishmonger got to know me, the better value I got. Towards the end, I was getting about ten fish per the old Irish pound. To get such good value, I had to ignore her telling all the other fishmongers that I was her boyfriend. I was in my twenties and she was in her sixties at least. Also , I was broke and my friends were hungry. I must have fed dozens of people who disliked fish and all thanks to a fishmonger with a glint in her eye.

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  • andrew 22/10/12 #

    bill cullen (should that be culled) would love this article. ‘ah jaysus….used to get up before i went to sleep….selling apples, 3000 for a penny

    why dont we bring back flogging, the gallows, reintroduce the plague, get rid of electricty, reintroduce complete illiteracy. lets get back to the good old days

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  • I worked in findlaters at lunchtime I went down to Moore street for bunch of graps every week after pay day and to heir them say how or you love they were the good timo in the 60s

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  • I like the rough and ready feel of the place. It’s not as though we need another cookie-cutter shopping mall, masquerading as a ‘town centre’.

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  • Being pushed out by developers? Dredlock and stolen phone unlocking shops. Have ya been down Moore st lately.

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  • pg 22/10/12 #

    I was offered illegal cigeretres and fire works there last week !

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  • gerrrrr your bangers 5 fer a poundddddd

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  • Excellent article. Cities around Europe relish their diverse markets. They should be protected and developed or we risk ending up looking like every other random uk high street!

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  • I don’t personally see the need to preserve Moore street, it’s not aesthetically pleasing and I don’t think it represents Ireland culturally. Most of the shops are phone shops or African hair stores. I’d like to see the rejuvenation of Smithfield fruit and veg market.

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  • Rotten fruit…….

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  • andrew 22/10/12 #

    what did he predict? that he would be remembered primarily as the racist bigot that he was?

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  • I remember going in there as a child with my mother, there’s was all sorts of characters there…though if I saw them now as an adult they might not be quite so exotic!

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  • You can keep the character of a city and still develop and grow it – this is normal in any city like London or Paris. Unfortunately here such well known ‘brand’ areas are deliberately neglected to drive down property prices before developers move in with their apartment blocks and destroy the character and name of what existed until it becomes little more than a ‘brand’ name to sell apartments and office space.

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  • Corn rolls 2 fer a euro….free with the card.

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  • Hands up anybody who *regularly* buys items on Moore Street…

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  • tom 23/10/12 #

    At best it’s a eye sore at worst dirty filthy street that resembles a overflowing sewer especially noticeable by the rubbish left behind each evening. it’s hard to believe a street on such a busy shopping street is allowed to be this bad.

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    • You can blame the developer for that… its in his interest to have a national monument looking such a disgrace,At one stage they took the roof off number 16. His idea is..If the street looks like a kip who will miss it if a redbrick supermarket takes his place.

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  • no cobbles on moore street

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  • banger’s or rockets i grow up around the corner from Moore st i only went by the other day and by god how its changed we can’t save Wats all ready gone.. RIP MOORE ST
    WELCOME CHINA TOWN

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  • With all this bad comments Moore street will be lost for good

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  • Completely agree that markets should be protected. Don’t know much about Moore Street but I remember when Glasgow City Council closed Paddy’s Market a while back, and the famous Barra’s market is constantly down for ‘yuppification’ by the council with development plans that look to push out the original stall owners. Its as if the city council want the working class element to disappear and reinvent it for the ‘farmer market’ generation. Living in London now, despite the multi cultural and artisan elements of traditional markets, you can still see glimmers of old London in some of the traders – even in the up and coming areas in the East end, many of the old traders remain. Whether they do good business or not, I really don’t know – many have had to diversify into different streams of income. We’re definitely in danger of loosing this type of city heritage. I absolutely love the old markets, always o my fruit and veg shopping there and get the local goss or knowledge from the stall owners.

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  • I presume they’re all tax compliant?

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  • ah here, leave it out!

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  • We want see nice comments from Moore street please

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  • Moore street is symptomatic of what is happening all over Ireland.
    With approx 10% of our population now foreigners, cultural dilution seems inevitable.

    Remember what Enoch Powell predicted for Britain….

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  • What! It might really be “the last of the Cheeky Charlies!”

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  • Moor st. should never be done away with, Its part of dublins culture, i love going to Moor st. when iam in dublin,

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  • We were home a few weeks ago and went to Moore street only two years away but what a shock. Happened to walk through it with my son and was first taken back by the smell of foreign n food and then the people barely any Irish counted on one hand thought I was in middle of London . Loads hanging around trying to get you into shops no Irish. Brought my husband down to see his reaction and he was also shocked . Seems like our wonderful Moore Street is gone and has been taken over just a disgrace and so sad.

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    • So let me clarify this;
      You’re an immigrant in another country, and you’re shocked to see immigrants make their home in the country you left?

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    • Just to clarify I am not shocked seeing immigrants in Ireland and have no objection to to this. My point was where is Our heritage gone from Moore street. The traders on Moore street are famous I am of the option that each person has the right to live where they wish. Moore street is a historic street and it should be kept like that . All nationalities have the right to trade in Moore street but my view while walking through was one of fear it was intimidating, unfriendly and not the place to be. And before I am told I am an immigrant in another country I do not disrespect the heritage of the country I am in.

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    • “Loads hanging around trying to get you into shops”

      I walk up Moore St most days and have never noticed gangs of non-white attempting to force me into their shops. Perhaps I’m not a pretty fair maiden destined for the international slave trade.

      Some people should perhaps stop watching “Taken” on rewind.

      P.

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  • We were home a few weeks ago and went to Moore street only two years away but what a shock. Happened to walk through it with my son and was first taken back by the smell of foreign n food and then the people barely any Irish counted on one hand thought I was in middle of London . Loads hanging around trying to get you into shops no Irish. Brought my husband down to see his reaction and he was also shocked . Seems like our wonderful Moore Street is gone and has been taken over just a disgrace and so sad.

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    • so Moore Street should be a “good white Irish market” for “good white Irish people” then? I’m sorry but I can’t agree. Those days are long gone for Ireland and we the better for it that they’re gone. A market is a place for trading, and what have different cultures done throughout history except trade with one another and fight with one another. The first option is better than the second. Ghettoisation never works.

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