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Senators received nearly €2 million in expenses in 2012

The average senator received €32,695 in allowances last year – equal to nearly half of their basic salary.

The members of the 24th Seanad, outside Leinster House in May 2011 shortly before its first sitting.
The members of the 24th Seanad, outside Leinster House in May 2011 shortly before its first sitting.
Image: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

THE 60 MEMBERS of Seanad Éireann received just under €2 million in travel and office expenses and allowances in 2012, new figures have revealed.

Figures compiled by TheJournal.ie – based on monthly releases from the Houses of the Oireachtas – show the 60 members receiving a cumulative total of €1,961,674 across their twelve months in office.

The payments include a travel allowance, based on the commuting distance from each member’s home to Leinster House, and a flat-rate ‘public representation’ allowance to cover the costs of running a constituency office.

Fianna Fáil’s Mark Daly received the highest payments of any member in 2012, being paid a total of €47,106 for the year – the equivalent of over 70 per cent of his basic Seanad salary of €65,621 - though this can be put down to his commute from Kenmare, Co Kerry, which is among the longest of any senator.

His Kerry colleague, Fine Gael’s Tom Sheahan is the next-highest claimant, receiving a total of €45,594 to cover his commute from Rathmore.

The Seanad’s Leas-Cathaoirleach, Denis O’Donovan of Fianna Fáil – who has the longest commute of any Senator, being based in Bantry, Co Cork – is the third-highest recipient. His office entitles him to a higher rate of allowances than other members, meaning a total of €45,400 for the year.

At the other end of the scale, Professor John Crown from the NUI constituency declined to take any allowances for the year. Crown, a consultant oncologist, has already said he donates his Seanad salary to cancer research, believing it is inappropriate for him to claim two public salaries.

Fiach Mac Conghail, one of the 11 senators appointed by the Taoiseach, accepts only a third of his entitlements and was given a total of €4,000 over the year; NUI senator Feargal Quinn also opts against receiving his full amount, and received €8,542 – just over half of the amount he is entitled to.

The records published by the Oireachtas are incomplete for now; members are given some time to return any unused allowances, with a final annual total – including the amounts returned – not likely to be published until May or June.

Senators much more likely not to ‘vouch’

Although Senators who opt to vouch for their ‘public representation allowance’ are entitled to a higher allowance than those who don’t – with unvouched members getting €9,250 a year, and vouched members €15,000 – a large cohort of Senators opt for the unvouched model.

While this means they receive a smaller allowance payment than their colleagues, it also means they are not subject to an audit – or, indeed, any kind of oversight about how their allowance is spent.

Those who opt to vouch for their allowances are required to keep receipts proving that it has been spent meeting only the appropriate costs. One tenth of all TDs and Senators who vouch for their expenses are required to undergo a random audit conducted for the Oireachtas by auditing firm Mazars.

44 of the 60 Senators opt for the unvouched model – including 17 of Fine Gael’s 20 members, 10 out of Fianna Fáil’s 14, and eight out of Labour’s 12.

Only one of the three Sinn Féin senators opted for the unvouched model last year, while all but two of the independent members (the aforementioned Crown and Mac Conghail) took the unvouched option.

While any Senator who fails to show up at Leinster House on 120 days is required to forfeit some of their allowance, this did not apply to any of the 60 senators in 2012, each of whom fulfilled the minimum attendance requirements.

In full: Our interactive spreadsheet showing what Senators were given in 2012

More? Check out our spreadsheet of TDs’ allowances last year

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Comments (47 Comments)

  • A similar article was posted this time last year and we were all outraged and up in arms by the amounts of money involved. A similar article will be published this time next year and the same outraged comments will appear. There is a bit of a groundhog day feeling about this. It’s time for the people of Ireland to take action and DO something about this laughable situation. What that action is, I don’t claim to know. But something needs to be done. Any budding revolutionaries out there?

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    • Liz, I agree with you… Nothing ever changes… Regarding politicians!

      In fact… Last night the topic of political change came up in conversation. The five native Irish conversationalist eventually agreed that the biggest issue at hand is the Irish psyche and the ingrained view of things.

      The conversationalist believe that the reason nothing is ever done here is that the Irish nation is divided. This nation will never be united. The division of this nation is a throw back to the time of Irish Kings an fiefdoms.
      The king and his army would go out pillage and plunder other fiefdoms and return with the wealth to his people. Because the king bestowed food and riches upon the people of his fiefdom. .. The king could do no wrong. Today the king is replaced by teachers and lawyers elected by the people of the old fiefdom. These persons are mostly unqaulified to represent anyone or anything on the international stage. However, they are elected.
      They are elected with the expectation that they will go to the capital fight it out and get they’re cut of the pie for their fiefdom.
      Their value isn’t based on what the do for the nation. .. But for what they do for the fiefdom. Because this how things are viewed. .. We have TDs suggesting drink driving for rural communities. Or TDs who don’t pay business taxes. It doesn’t matter how stupid these people are or how many laws they’ve broken… There time as a TD is based on the satisfaction of the people of their fiefdom.

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    • So nothing will every change.

      Change will only happen if politicians want it. Though we are suppose to be a decromacy. … We the people have no power.

      And a politician will never make a change to their livelihood. … Because they can have their cake and eat it too!

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  • All aboard the gravy train, Choo Choo!!!

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  • In summary every senator is getting more than the equivalent of a full teacher’s yearly pension (after 35 years work) in expenses….on top of a salary for working 120 days?

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  • Bryan N 02/02/13 #

    Laughable…

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  • Why do we need 60 of them? I think we would get along just fine with 0.

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  • The senate is just jobs for the boys and girls that are in the political elite.

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  • Greedy feckers.

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  • Shameful. Unvouched expenses is simply wrong.

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  • What do these people actually do? Seems to me it’s a talking shop for the elite or a consolation prize for election losers. If the Seanad is to stay give it some power. Otherwise abolish it. Now can Dáil Éireann also be abolished?

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  • When are we going to abolish this shower ? The sooner the better .

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  • Time for them to go !

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  • If ever there was an argument for abolishing the Seanad this is it. Meanwhile the government wants to slash the pay (again) of workers who provide services which are necessary.

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  • This makes me so mad- isn’t their outrageous salary ENOUGH?
    And why oh why are the lower end of the public sector been attacked when the top end are just lapping it up? So unfair!

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  • No expenses should be payed , basic wages only, the wage should acknowledge costs in carrying out duties, thus we all know upfront what were paying any individual,
    Otherwise this joke will continue, eroding respect for the work done, and undermining moral of the workers involved

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  • Still going on? And we bend over and take it as usual.

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  • Who the fook is Mark Daly?? Over €47K

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  • We could pay graduate nurses a decent wage instead

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  • Feckin joke shop. A good kick in the hole is what most of them deserve (Except women and oap’s in the senate, that would just look bad)

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  • Ye are not worth one penny of these expenses

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  • There a saving for the government right there in the faces

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  • We as a country are taking money from the vulnerable to pay expenses and salaries of senators , and. Ouncillors.
    It should. E voluntary with no expenses at all. It shoud be in cork, Galway, portlaoise and Sligo if necessary and people pay for themselves. Or abolish it.

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  • what a waste of money. sad.

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  • I can’t see how it could cost nearly 1500 a month for transport and other expenses , even coming from Kerry , considering that they sit for 120 days. There should be a nominal small allowance for transport and accommodatioo, how you choose to spend it is up to you – train or a fuel efficient car, fancy or standard hotel. If you are burning fuel in a massive non fuel efficient car like a 7 series, eating and staying in Dublin in expensive places, that can be their individual choice, but don’t make us pay for it.

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    • Agree wholeheartedly. In a week where the graduate nurses protested re the attempt to cut their salaries further this continues. The vast majority of highly paid civil servants senators etc all get expenses more than would equate to 4 full time graduate nurses graduate pay. Maybe the country would b better of if we did a swap and sent them to work in a takeaway instead.

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  • Ivana Bacik > ran in the 2004 General Election, not elected
    > ran for the Seanad for the THIRD time in 2007, and was elected at the EIGHTH count
    > ran in 2009 by-election, was not elected
    > 2010, did not receive Labour’s nomination to run for Dáil
    > ran in 2011 General Election, not elected, in addition, in 1997 and 2002 ran for Seanad and was not
    elected, what a joke.

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  • ROBERTO 02/02/13 #

    32000! In expenses only!!! Ridiculous!!!

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  • I see all these senators claimed expenses for the month of august 2012 and the seanad was not even open.Id love to get paid that kind of money for not working.Is it any wounder this country is broke

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  • Jesus Christ, wouldnt this seanad make you sick.Morons who get paid big money for talking crap and taking junkets all over the world.Then to add insult to the people who are on the edge financially,they claim 2million in expenses. Only answer close it down now. Gardai gettin killed whilst they are being cut to bits in numbers and resources..yellow pack nurses!
    Where will it end? If the govt are serious, just close the seanad now its the most expensive talk shop and hiding place in eire….for morons!

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  • Sorry to say folks…. But thank God for the EU. Though this may hurt… If the EU hadn’t come in…. Many of the laws that have changed or which is being looked now would not be in the fore fronts of our minds.

    The truth of the matter is that we are unable to manage ourselves with equality and democratically. There are many countries that are worse off than us… But there are many more that are better off than we are.

    The excuse that we are a young country is getting pretty old. Lets find a way to dethrone the kings of the fiefdoms…. Keep teachers in the classroom where the belong and find qualified people with the true skillset to run the fiefdoms and this country.

    For the kings are bleeding us dry!

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  • There should be no entitlement value, if there are genuine expenses that are directly related to the job, no problem but it must be submitted and approved. All expenses should be made public each quarter. There should be limited travel expenses and TDs should aim to use as cost effective transport as possible.

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  • Some good people effectively highlight issues ( senators) I’m in favour of keeping it, thus though I’d say so,

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  • What do these guys do, how can it be so much? Could people do a basic Google search and a quick bit of maths before asking these questions. I am in no way defending unvouched expenses but as long as we have a Seanad representing the island then its members will have to travel to it and God forbid stay a few nights in Dublin. Getting rid of the Seanad is a separate discussion, find out what they do before making a knee jerk call for its abolition based on the cost.

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