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Syria threatens using WMDs as EU prepares to withdraw citizens

Cyprus’s justice minister says the bloc is “prepared for the worst”, as Syria reveals its WMD for the first time.

Syria's foreign ministry spokesman Jihad Makdissi said his government could use weapons of mass destruction against enemies - but later sought to water down his remarks.
Syria's foreign ministry spokesman Jihad Makdissi said his government could use weapons of mass destruction against enemies - but later sought to water down his remarks.
Image: Muzaffar Salman/AP

THE SYRIAN REGIME has threatened to use chemical and biological weapons in case of a foreign attack, in its first ever acknowledgement that it possesses weapons of mass destruction.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Jihad Makdissi stressed, however, that Damascus would not use its unconventional arms against its own citizens.

The announcement comes as Syria faces international isolation, a tenacious rebellion that has left at least 19,000 people dead and threats by Israel to attack to prevent such weapons from falling into rebel hands.

The timing, however, of Syria’s decision to reveal the long-suspected existence of its chemical weapons suggests a desperate regime deeply shaken by an increasingly bold revolt that has scored a string of successes in the past week, including a stunning bomb attack that killed four high-level security officials, the capture of several border crossings and sustained offensives on the regime strongholds of Damascus and Aleppo.

“No chemical or biological weapons will ever be used, and I repeat, will never be used, during the crisis in Syria no matter what the developments inside Syria,” Makdissi said in news conference broadcast on Syrian state TV.

“All of these types of weapons are in storage and under security and the direct supervision of the Syrian armed forces and will never be used unless Syria is exposed to external aggression.”

The ministry later sought to water down its comments, circulating written versions of Makdissi’s remarks to add the phrase “if any”, looking to reintroduce question-marks over whether Syria has any such weapons to begin with.

The United Nations’ secretary-general Ban Ki-moon said any use of such weapons would be “reprehensible”.

EU prepares possible evacuation

The European Union meanwhile said it was ready to evacuate its nationals from Syria if necessary, and is watching the developing situation in the country very closely.

“We are prepared for the worst,” said Cypriot home affairs minister Eleni Mavrou, whose country currently holds the presidency of the European Council.

Speaking at informal talks between EU home affairs ministers, she said the bloc was preparing a system to help move Europeans as well as citizens from third countries from Syria to their own countries.

“We have experience of the evacuation from Lebanon and more recently with Libya,” said the EU’s home affairs commissioner Cecilia Malmstroem. “We can do it again.

“We are monitoring the situation hour by hour.”

Cyprus has warned that up to 200,000 foreign nationals may have to be evacuated from Syria, many of them also holding Syrian passports.

A formal meeting of the EU’s foreign affairs ministers in Brussels today ended with ministers again condemning the increasing use of force by the Syrian regime, and urging it to withdraw from besieged towns and call for a peaceful transition.

Ministers also strengthened the enforcement of the EU’s arms embargo, and increased other sanctions against Syria.

Israeli also said today it had met with American envoys to discuss how to manage a Syrian government collapse.

- Ben Hubbard and Paul Schemm; additional reporting by Gavan Reilly and AFP.

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Comments (57 Comments)

  • Now is getting very nasty…..sum1 speak out now b4 is too late..

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  • paul 23/07/12 #

    do what UN did in Rwanda. nothing. so we can live with the shame of that as well.

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  • They invaded Iraq on the pretence of non existent WMD. Now in Syria they actually are going to use WMD and they sit back and do nothing.

    Im confused

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  • Interesting how a suicide bomb attack is described as “stunning” in this article.

    Yet a similar attack against, say US troops, would undoubtedly be described as “terrorism”.

    All down to which bunch of Islamic extremists the West considers “the good guys” I suppose, kind of similar to the way Al Qaeda and the Taliban were very good western allies during the Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan.

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    • Mark, a quick correction. I don’t think al Qaeda was around during the soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Also the US gave support to the mujahideen not the Taliban.

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    • Quite a pedantic correction. The school of thought on which Al Qaeda and the Taliban existed and was supported by America; Bin Laden, Al-Zawahiri etc.

      America chooses the wrong path again today – supporting and propping up of Islamic headbangers which if successful, will form the next fortification of Al Qaeda in the region.

      This is the stuff you read in history books. Of massive and powerful empire in its death throes invading other lands incessantly and overspending in warfare eventually bankrupting it and imploding from within.

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    • Daithi, don’t be so sure of the decline of the USA.

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    • Declan, the Taliban and Al Qaeda are basically the modern names given to the Mujahideen. In their statements they still describe themselves as “Mujahideen”.

      Al-Qaeda translates as “The Database” . According to British Secretary of State Robin Cook, who was also President of the Foreign Policy Centre:

      “Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by Western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally “the database”, was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.”

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    • RDX862 23/07/12 #

      Lots of different groups all over the world describe themselves as Mujahideen

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  • What I find most disturbing about all of the uprisings and civil wars in the Arab Spring is what has seemed to replace the previous dictatorships and rulers. Hard line Muslim groups intent on enforcing the strictest of Religious laws onto the people. From the frying pan into the fire it seems. The world is becoming a much smaller and much more dangerous place.

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  • Derek 23/07/12 #

    I wouldn’t get worked up about that, its all part of the dance. Syria is well aware of what is happening and who is pushing the board pieces. This move should mean the lowering of probability of foreign aggression by the UN, Israel or anyone else. What’s happening in Syria is being forced upon Assad and his Govt for one purpose. That purpose must not be fulfilled as it leads the hounds directly then to the doors of Iran and that will not be pretty for anyone especially the people of the middle east.
    Local Sunni countries want a weakening and an end to Shia governance in the region and the West want whats under the soil. Mother Teresa, god rest her could be the leader of these countries and over a few months of spin and little tit for tat events in the news we will all be shouting for something to be done and have her ostracized and vilified. A lot stands to occur if the rot that is being pumped in to Syria right now continues and bares the results sought. Just like some other countries in the last 2 years, “rebel”s instigated all the murdering and upheaval, and think who as usual is currently profiting most from that.

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  • How can you trust a minister with the first name of Jihad? I mean ffs! What kind of parents even call their kids that? , school would be good, “sir sir holy war o Reilly started a fight with me for no reason sir”

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  • so marc Im a Jew hater ? i don’t think so . pointing out my opinion and submitting some fact based information makes me racist ? how dare you brand me a Jew hater. i hope your conscience is clear when your branding all Muslims terrorists and Palestinians squatters your views are unfounded rhetoric of a typical brain washed tool.

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  • Derek 24/07/12 #

    Your funny, I’m so far removed from pc I should get medically checked out. A spades a spade in my eyes and I dont’ mind calling it just that.
    I just have little tolerance for people who want to win an argument by labelling someone “jew haters” or “anti-semite” its tired and frankly at this point diluted in weight.
    I see your point, there is no room for Islamic culture and the laws it brings in western countries but that box has already been opened, I’m well aware of Muslim population growth in many european countries such as Belgium, in as little as a generation there will be a majority muslim population in many other countries who no doubt in time will elect representatives from within their own communities and not long after that we will be facing the very real threat to our long fought for and established way of life when Sharia law is demanded to replace our own which Shaira law sees as foul and morally corrupt. It’s already happening in parts of the UK but on small scales where the Govt and Councils can nip it in the bud but the seeds are definitely growing!

    Western people I’d assume do not wish to take a side, we have not grown up surrounded by the daily resentment, anger and unrest Jews and Muslims have grown up with. We would prefer if everyone calmed down and stopped pissing on each others shoes. But daily both sides continue to do just that, some palestinian will fire mortars near Israeli borders while down the road Israel is knocking down a few villages to make way for more housing of Jewish emigrants or currently wanting more IDF training land. Radicalised anything is a danger to the general population, but we need to look at the cause of it and what incentives people see in going down this path, no one can move on when hatred and frankly insane thinking is the norm of the day and pushed on people of weak persuasion.

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  • Um, FSA v SAA is now classified as a civil war, so less of the “extremist” rhetoric please. Also, neither AL Qaeda nor the Taliban existed during the Soviet occupation.

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  • If they use them – lets see what Russia and China do they!
    Will they disgustingly still support them?
    I suspect so!

    Shower of cretins!

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    • …Lets see what Russia and China do THEN!

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    • So let met get this straight, if Syria use their chemical weapon stockpile in the event of an Israeli or US strike, the “Russians” and the “Chinese” are the shower of cretins??!! And what does that make the Israelis and yanks? Alpha males?

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    • …And what does that make the Israelis and yanks? Alpha males?

      There are no clean hands here in this mess – and thats putting it bluntly.
      many countries involved on ALL sides have blood on their hands.
      I have NOT said anything different.

      However in the aspect of Russia and China still possibly supporting a state which might use chemical weapons – if they still continue to do so, they yes, at the very least they are cretins, as I previously put it.

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    • The game here, I suppose, is for the west to enter Syria, but not for the oil, as quantities are just meaningless as compared to Iraq et al. Geopolitically speaking, siding Assad away from Syria will cause a power vacuum and the west will carefully back a group to take over power, and I repeat it, not for oil. Western I fluency in Syria, however small the country might be or meaningless to the eyes of the world, will give way to a shift in the balance of power, thus getting them closer to Iran, which the Russians and Chinese don’t want. Should this be the case, the influence of those 2 countries will be deeply affected. This is a war of who control the world. Despite not being good themselves, Russia and china is very much needed in the middle east so as to create that balance of power and influence for the safety of the whole planet. Imagine the middle east being under total control of the west!!! This scenario is just unimaginable and surely won’t be a sweet dream. It will give rise to another face of the US, with all the controls that will be at their arms length. Think monopoly on a global scale and it’s consequences on every other nation.

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    • In a nutshell.

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    • Yes, fotocrat. That’s what the US have planned in “The Project for a New American Century”. Cue the “tin foil hats” comments, but at least some of us are aware of what is really going on with these orchestrated events.

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  • Hope that doesn’t spur the Israelis on to use a nuke. It wouldn’t take much to force their hand in that direction.

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    • Zartan 23/07/12 #

      Yes, they’re fierce men for the aul’ nukin’ all right. Look at them crooked and they nuke the head off ya.

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    • I don’t know about that. It would be like standing on Malin Head and setting off a nuke on Mizen Head, not a good idea. Besides imagine world reaction not to mention European reaction to a nuke going off. Jordan, Iraq and Turkey wouldn’t be too impressed either. A better option is US supplied bunker busters and fuel/air bombs like the MOAB. The US are only dying to try one of those out.

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    • RDX862 23/07/12 #

      Bombing chemical weapons sites has to potential to release the poisonous material into the surrounding environment which could cause massive casualties depending on the location. To actually go into Syria and secure the facilities the US said they would need 75,000 troops.

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    • Iraq made the same threat re WMDs and used them all up on their own people before being overthrown . Then they claimed they had none and were believed by some (yes true, they had none left).

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    • 75,000 troops wouldn’t secure Damascus never mind the country…

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    • RDX862 23/07/12 #

      Did you miss this part? “secure the facilities”

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    • People would ye wake up and smell the coffee for god’s sake……US, UK , ISRAEL , FRANCE……all have chemical weapons, would someone ask these countries if they were INVADED by another country would they use everything they have to stop an invasion of their country…..the US dropped two atomic bombs as a test on human beings when the war was clearly over…….Israel has used white phosphorous on human beings in Gaza very recently….do people have any clue at all ?

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  • Maybe this is the start of the end december 23 2012

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  • Depleted Uranium all over Iraq……..babies now being born with horrible deformities and here we are talking about something that has not even happened. Have people really become that stupid ? Are we all a bunch of morons or what ?

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  • Thank you Russia……who said the cold war was over? ….as for Israel not needing An excuse to go nuclear people forget it’s the only real democracy in a sea of lunacy hell bent on it’s destruction and if any of the so called leaders in that sea possessed the nuclear option it would have been used already….against Israel……Assad is a murderer and nobody can blame Israel for that….then Again this posting will get the anti semites crawling out of the woodwork

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    • What does your armageddon fantasy have to do with anti-Semetism? The CIA and Israeli intelligence agree that their enemies in the region are rational actors. That is to say – any desire for a nuclear weapon would only be in an effort to creat a balance of power. Israel is the only state in the region with such a capacity. For a nation which continually abuses international law – this is a scary reality for anyone living East of Israel.

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    • ask the palistineans or Lebanese how democratic the isreal is ! massive segregation no senior appointments unless your Jewish, all other faiths treated as 2nd class citizens . Democracy my arse

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  • Seems the Israelis are happy with Syria’s precautions with the stockpile – see haaretz.com

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  • Syria has close ties with Iran, who apparently blew up a bus in Bulgaria last week. Iran has loads of oil. Admitting to Wmds is really asking for it in the current climate.

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  • great point conor…only reason I can think of is oil

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  • Yes Derek and it fools like you will sell your own culture and country down the river to be PC…..radical Islam is at odds with everything western democracy stands for….I suspect you are already a convert judging by your venom towards me….while you are penning your diatribe back at me perhaps you can enlighten me about what it is that radical Islam had Brough to the table of civilization recently…..nothing..just fear, terror and tacky desert cities built by greedy western corporations….I should add that I harbour no Ill feelings towards most Muslim people who I believe are the victims of radical Islam too ….I am, however fearful of that continued hijacking and radicalization of normal Islam by radical lunatics seem to hate everyone

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    • Dude, checkout the so-called “underwear bomber” the man was put on a plane in Amsterdam with no passport….the whole thing was a CIA backed job……get up from your slumber !!! just for a reference check out KURT HASKELL who is a witness to all of this……

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    • I think maybe thejournal might run with the story of the CIA backed “underwear bomber” ..any chance ?

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    • “I witnessed while sitting there and subsequent events have changed my life forever. While I sat there, I witnessed Umar dressed in jeans and a white t-shirt, being escorted around security by a man in a tan suit who spoke perfect American English and who aided Umar in boarding without a passport. The airline gate worker initially refused Umar boarding until the man in the tan suit intervened. The event meant nothing to me at the time. Little did I know that Umar would try to kill me a few hours later as our flight approached Detroit. The final 10 minutes of our flight after the attack were the worst minutes of my life. During those 10 minutes I sat paralyzed in fear. Unfortunately, what happened next has had an even greater impact on my life and has saddened me further.
      When we landed, I was shocked that our plane taxied up to the gate. I was further shocked that we were forced to sit on the plane for 20 minutes with powder from the so called bomb all over the cabin. The officers that boarded the plane did nothing to ensure our safety and did not check for accomplices or other explosive devices. Several passengers trampled through parts of the bomb as they exited the plane. We were then taken into the terminal with our unchecked carry on bags. Again, there was no concern for our safety even though Umar told the officers that there was another bomb on board as he exited the plane. I wondered why nobody was concerned about our safety, accomplices or other bombs and the lack of concern worried me greatly. I immediately told the FBI my story in order to help catch the accomplice I had seen in Amsterdam. It soon became obvious that the FBI wasn’t interested in what I had to say, which upset me further. For one month the government refused to admit the existence of the man in the tan suit before changing course and admitting his existence in an ABC News article on January 22, 2010. That was the last time the government talked about this man. The video that would prove the truth of my account has never been released. I continue to be emotionally upset that the video has not been released. The Dutch police, meanwhile, in this article (show article), also confirmed that Umar did not show his passport in Amsterdam which also meant that he didn’t go through security as both are in the same line in Amsterdam. It upsets me that the government refuses to admit this fact.”

      Kurt Haskell

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    • Derek 24/07/12 #

      “I suspect you are already a convert judging by your venom towards me” Hilarious stuff Mark !! yes I converted to something just to spit venom at you! heh
      This wouldn’t be Mark Anthony by any chance that plays the persecuted Jew case all the time? Poor little me, everyone’s out to get me. Name calling anyone who disagrees with you! Your comments used always make me laugh.

      Many I’m sure missed your rants the last few months, welcome back to TJ.

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  • @Daire

    You show your true colours as an anti Semite and somebody who has spent too much time studying political science and not living the realities of what Israel faces on a daily basis….hatred from all sides from religious lunatics and fanatics….you fail to provide proof of Israels possession of a nuclear device but are happy to sell a nation of people down the road as aggressors…if somebody attacks me or my loved ones I will defend them…by any means…you are the one who does not see the greater picture here rather you are blinded by hatred of Jews and Israel……reality is a lot different from poli sc 101 so be careful who you back in this battle as your female family members probably don’t look good.in a.burka

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    • isreal is a nuclear power , they have nuclear weapons this is not a disputed fact by them. Assad like it or not HAS the majority of support in Syria , Assad is the head of state who is directing the defence of Syria against militants who seek to over throw him , are the just ? i think maybe but what is the American agenda here ! its got nothing to do with democracy , western democracy never works within the east . perhaps placing a noose around Iran is there one and only agenda. US senator today said no boots on the ground in Syria but they will fund and arm the insurgents . sounds like we heard this music before isn’t that right osama .

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    • Yes Alan and I live with the Easter bunny…you’re just another Jew hater

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    • Derek 24/07/12 #

      Jew hater eh? That old card is pulled out daily now. Christ I get tired of it being freely used so much. No one can criticize Israeli politics or foreign engagements where its perfectly natural of ye to take jabs at muslims and can them all fanatics and what ever you like.
      You only invalidate your own comments when throwing that wee bombshell around. Unless someone is looking for votes they should feel nothing when you label someone that as its only to shoddily discredits anyone else’s opinion that are not your own or 1 country’s right or wrong stance.

      “so be careful who you back in this battle as your female family members probably don’t look good.in a.burka” shows enough of your viewpoint. I’m going to call you a Muslim hater. See how it fits for a bit.

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    • Jew hater ? so pointing out my opinion and submitting so fact based information makes me racist ? how dare you brand me a Jew hater. i hope your conscience is clear when your branding all Muslims terrorists and Palestinians squatters your views are unfounded rhetoric of a typical brain washed tool.

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  • pacahill 23/07/12 #

    This sounds lyk a job for the “bin laden squad”

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