Not a chance I’d say. I mean Buah/Blair directly killed over a million with Sanctions on Iraq and subsequent invasion and they have not been tried for war crimes.

B Lowe, those sanctions were imposed by the UN and bush was not president at that time. Stop blaming bush and Blair for a situation that Hussein started!

Read the article before commenting Sean.

I did read it, Mattiod.

‘In view of the substantiated accounts of atrocities by Syrian government forces against civilians; the recent attacks on UN peacekeepers and humanitarian aid workers; as well the threat of a further escalation of violence including the possibility of the use of chemical weapons, the Ministers have called on the UN Security Council to urgently refer the situation in Syria to the ICC…’

No mention in the statement quoted from the DFA (on behalf of the Ministers) regarding the actions of the opposition.

Those actions being the targetting of unarmed Christians by Rebels. The full statement (on the CNN) fails to explicity mention targetting Christians but it does go into specific atrocities carried out by the pro-Assad forces.

Read the article again Sean – there are at least two places where it is made clear that war crimes from all sides should be investigated.

That’s like arguing that aids is better than cancer.

I know, but I’d rather have the one I can control and live with then the unpredictable one which will eventually kill me.

Which one is that???

It would not be a religious democracy. It would be unstable for sure as the so called ‘rebels’ are fighting among themselves for loot and so on but it would be an Islamic state with dictatorship powers. I’d imagine similar to Morsi and MUSLIM Brotherhood and there attempts at total dictatorship which would make Mubarak look like a wimp.

Not a hundred per cent correct. Take the case of Bahrain, a dictatorship, which crushed a rebellion in 2011 resulting in scores of civilllian deaths. There was no calls from Clinton, Hague, Kouchner or indeed Mr Gilmore for the overthrow of the Bahrani regime, despite its’ use of brutal force to crush dissent. (Aided by the Saudi (another dictatorship) military.)

The lesson is that it is ok to be an undemocratic and totalitarian regime, once you are OUR undemocratic and totalitarian regime (Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt). It is not ok for Iran, Syria or Libya to act in the same manner.

Actually Sean, Syria has massive resources of potential gas if it was exploited. The Western corporations could be going after this just as they have finished plundering Libyan state assets and resources.

I never said that Syria that had no resources, I was just arguing against the idea that the West would intervene against an undemocratic regime if the regime had rescources (oil, gas). Bahrain is oil rich but the West barely criticised its’ government when it crushed an unprising. Why?, Because they are allies of the West and enemies of Iran.

The UN is a tool of the West. As there is currently a Western backed terrorist invasion of Syria at the moment sending the UN in would be akin to the US army going in. Same outcome.

Then why doesn’t any country which is not aligned to the west simply pull out of the UN?
At the last count it still represented 193 of the 206 sovereign states in the world.

I mean, we even had a report in the Financial Tines within the last week on Syria re Uranium. The Times was actually suggesting Syria could ship 50 tonnes of Uranium to Iran so Iran could use it to make a bomb. The article cited ‘Top officials’ and ‘anonymous insider’ for the basis of all the claims.
This is turning into Iraq re the amount of Propaganda that is being spoon fed to us.
Enough is enough. The US /France /UK/NATO /Saudi Arabia /Qatar/Turkey need to stop arming, training and financing foreign Islamic jihadists intent on causing mayhem. They need to stop sending these fanatics into Syria all for some petty regional goal.

Of course you’re disappointed. You think the Assad dynasty are the legitimate leaders of Syria and that the genocidal armed forces are ‘heroes’.

While there is no doubt that a small proportion of the Syrian Army is and has been involved in some questionable operatins the vast majority are heroes and are dying in big numbers to defend their country. Fair play to them.
Maybe this could explain why the so called Syrian ‘rebels’ are using child soldiers as documented by Human Rights. It is highly credible that thousands of foreign Islamic jihadists, I mean Syrian ‘rebels’ are being killed weekly.

stop watching sky news, rte & other BS media channels.look at interviews online with people on the ground in syria.its the western backed rebels who are the slimeballs.

Sean, who exactly is Assad slaughtering? The Syrian government is defending Syrian civilians from armed thugs and gangs, aka the so called ‘rebels’.
The Syrian ‘rebels’ have executed countless civilians and buried them in mass graves.
They have carried our countless terrorist attacks such as car bombings where innumerable innocent women and children have died.
They have looted Christian homes and forced thousands to flee.
They have blocked off entire villages and towns and starved them of essential supplies.
They have enacted Sharia law. The leader of the internationaly recognised Syrian opposition group has said Syria will be an Islamic state.
They have targeted civilian aircraft and attempted to attack civilian airports. War crimes by the way.
They have stated all Russians and Iranians in Syria will targeted. Another war crime by the way.
They have stated they will shortly use chemical weapons in their battles. Need I say more?

BLowe
All true, but that doesn’t change the fact that Assad’s forces have also committed, and continue to commit terrible war crimes.
Was he defending Syrian civilians when he launched air strikes on a bakery queue last week?

Well said

the Eu care about Bussiness Not human rights , Social justice Or Democracy, The EU might care about Animal rights!!!???

Ireland…pressuring Russia and China.

Yeah you go on ahead there and see just how well that one works out.

Myopic twit…….this is an EU call. It just happens to be put out by El Presidente Gilmore.

Russia and China are trying to uphold international law. They have repeatedly called for dialogue and developed peace plans only for Qatar or Saudi Arabia to come out the very next day and say they will ignore the peace proposals.
Only for Russia and China, Syria would have ended up like Libya. Libya by the way was invaded by Qatar. Qatar has hundreds of its ground troops disguised as rebels throughout the conflict.
Fair play to Russia for sending a fleet off the Syrian coast. Let’s see the US/West flout international law again.

This is getting tedious…
The Russian plan, for their own geopolitical interests, came with the precondition that the Assad regime remain in place. A precondition that was of course unacceptable to anyone who had suffered at his hands and rose against him.

The west has also produced peace proposals which have been vetoed by Russia and China, again for geopolitical reasons. No side in this conflict has the moral monopoly.

Ha! Gilmore must look at himself in the mirror and see some sort of cloak wearing hero! Plank!