I think we should expel the Fianna Fáil party end of story.

We dont trust the church anymore
We cant trust our politicians anymore, an with good reason on both accounts,
We as a country an people have been treated terribly n we wil wear the scars for years… We deserve better.

Fianna Fail the party should be made pay for the Mahon Tribunal after all if was all about them and their friends

Think on this, the Mahon Tribunal only really dealed with a few financial dealings, within a very small couple of years.
So what might have been going on for some time before that and with how many other people, over years, decades…?
We will never know!
…Well unless Ahern is in a dock and maybe – maybe spills some secrets he’s keeping. A dock where many maybe still in power, does not want to see him in!

The tribunal judges wanted to dig more into other areas but there was a rush to court by opposition, to force the judges to have more limited remit in what they could delve into.
The judges suspected there might be more, much more (and I suspect they were/are right) but if they wanted to go further and investigate more – that soon was shot down by heads in Dublin.
The obvious question arises – if heads in Dublin were innocent – what had they to fear?

Lying under oath, Gavin :)
I know we expect politicians the odd white lie around election time but under oath is a different matter.. In fact you could also add M. Martin to the list above for accepting O Dea back into the party

@Oisin

I, being a woman, have to give my point of view on Mary White and Kathern Byrne (no relation TG)! They are a pair of T . T S!!!! The fact that they are older than me, they have seen, watched, I was going to say, ‘listened’, but I won’t, to what’s been going on in politics in Ireland for the past 30 years and they have the impression that ‘Bertie is a good man really, he brought peace to N.I.’ My ass, he did!!!! He happened to be the Taoiseach of the day, sadly, that is why he was around the table for talks with all sides. ALL SIDES had to agree on matters. They did not do what aherne told them. It was their decision. It was them, also, that brought peace.

The fool aherne has ruined his political life, any good (small) that he did do for this country is now forgotten. He will always be remembered as a liar and a thief. Even if he appologised in some way, it might, might, help him a little but he still feels he hasn’t done anything wrong. To me he’s a cute whore, short with the truth. He may think he didn’t take payments but he did. The fact that he didn’t have a bank account in his own name, putting it into his daughter’s name doesn’t make him clean. To be I would call him a narcissist.

These two women in F Fail are an embarrassment to women like myself. The few we have in politics was good, until I heard her argument this morning.

SCUM!!!!!!!!!!

If I may suggest. Why not build a high barbed-wire wall around one of the many ghost estates they’ve profited on and throw the whole lot of these lying corrupt fraudsters and their cheap bribable mates in it. Put an armed guard on a tower to make sure they don’t worm their way out as they have done for years. Next. annul the rotten, self serving corrupt pat on the back legislation surrounding politicians pensions NOW.
It will save billions and allow justice and sanity to prevail over greed and obscenity.

If FF are ever to be taken seriously again they need to expel the following members (active and inactive)

B. Ahern
P. Flynn
B. Cooper-Flynn
W. O’Dea
M. Healy Rae
J. Healy Rae

AMEN Joe Six two.

Will we get a Public Inquiry on the Banking crisis too. One that involves no solicitors. A lot of questions to be answered.

100% agreed :)
Well said Sheila

Right. So the argument that ‘He done some good for the country’ makes it okay to condone blatant lies and corruption? Madness. Exactly whats wrong with this island.

I think the report shows there was corrupt people in all the major parties,FF were just better at than the rest of them or the rest could hid it better than FF.Either ways Irish politics is in tatters,how can any politican be trusted,when they have been shown to be corrupt from the bottom up.Anyone that thinks that it doesn’t go on anymore is naive.

It wasn’t just about FF politicians , it was councillors at local level. This is where the brown envelopes start and gives an appetite for bigger brown envelopes. It is an addiction and leads to the likes of Flynn’s, Ahern’s, Healy Rea’s and Quinn’s getting hooked on power ( which is money, prestige, Ego, etc) we have a collection of them right now in government.

FF take steps that should have been done 30 years ago. T

The paitent is improving slowly but the cancer is still there, its going to take time

Decorate the lamp-posts of Merrion Square with political corpses.

This is the reason why we are looking to bring in this sexist and insulting ‘gender quota’. The patriarchal, chauvinistic, corrupt political sphere in this country is so bad that unfortunately for a woman to achieve anything in this line of work, she must be willing to eat her young. (as is seen internationally,eg merkel, C. Rice). I firmly believe that if we had had a proper amount of decent women in politics in general, we would not be in this situation. What we have created however is a world of disgusting so called politics. however we are left with the worst of (men) and demonic women as above

He probably took them out racing a few times !!!!!!

It is disappointing though… I admired his work as a negotiator, particularly with regard the peace process in NI but this at best dubious money trail tarnishes any luster his legacy might have had… I hate what money does to people and what people do with money…

Rather than be kicked out if the party and creating this acrimony, I would have hoped that he would resign…