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Union tells government to ‘stay the hell away’ from voting process

Regional Secratary of UNITE hit out at the government, accusing it of “subverting the democratic process”.

Ragional Secretary of UNITE, Jimmy Kelly.
Ragional Secretary of UNITE, Jimmy Kelly.
Image: Mark Stedman/Photocall Ireland

TRADE UNION UNITE has accused the government of interfering in the democratic process of votes on the extension proposals for the Croke Park agreement.

Today, Jimmy Kelly, Regional Secretary of the union, said ministers and departments have been “paying lip service to the right of union members to vote, before then trampling on the process with misleading statements on pay and reductions required”.

Politicians failed to make a case for cuts in discussions but still persuaded some there was no alternative.  They should now be quiet and stay the hell away from subverting the democratic process under way within all trade unions.

Kelly said the government has also failed to produce an analysis of how many jobs will be lost in the private sector as a result of “mugging” public servants for €1 billion in pay cuts.

“It may be that politicians believe what they have been told by leaders in their parties but regular workers know that they cannot take any more cuts, and people working in shops and restaurants and other jobs know that €1 billion less being spent in their place of work will mean a one way ticket to the dole queue or the airport for a life of emigration,” he added.

UNITE has recommended that its 6,500 members vote to reject the ‘Croke Park 2′ pay deal. In a coup for the government last week, the country’s largest union SIPTU encouraged its members on Thursday to accept the terms of the agreement.

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Comments (64 Comments)

  • This could be the end of SIPTU. By recommending this deal, they’re gambling like never before. The days of following union leaders instructions are well and truly over.

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  • Sandbag 18/03/13 #

    Given the high level of dual membership between SIPTU & the labour party, the fact that the government got them to recommend CP2 is hardly a coup.

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  • Brendan Howls that “we need to give the union’s time to reflect and make a choice” then releases that they are preparing legislation and anybody that votes no will no be protected the very next day..
    Says it all.
    Meanwhile Pat Rabbitte successfully lobbies him for big pay rises for 3 state and semi state bosses!
    The hypocrisy with “borrowed money” as they say.

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  • Unions lost their soul somewhere in the seventies…

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  • David 18/03/13 #

    I passed SIPTU HQ last week around 6pm and was stuck in traffic outside it. I noticed Jack O’Connor waiting in the lobby, I presume for his chauffeur.

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  • Rose 18/03/13 #

    Unions are finished their officials get the same wages, expenses as our dimwit politicians then they get positions on quangos Why would they fight for the ordinary joe soap James Larkin is doing summersaults in his grave at this moment we need a new leader to stop all this shit

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    • No yapping, and vote one in? sorry but our great country has banned the use of the term ” ordinary joe soap” not PC dear Rose, you could face jail time for that,

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    • Unions aren’t finished. Finally, union members have woken up to the fact that their unions don’t represent them how they should and there is likely to be a change coming but they certainly aren’t finished.

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    • Unions aren’t finished, the same way politics isn’t finished..
      We just need a far better calibre of people leading, people who will take personal pain for the wider good of all that they represent.

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  • I’m surprised that SIPTU didn’t understand that unity was of primary importance.

    The governments divide and destroy policy was lapped up by SIPTU and will cost them this time.

    One would have thought Jack O’Connor was smarter than that.

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  • Fine Gael showing its fascist roots again with Labour enabling it. We’ve seen their subversion of the referendum process, the data protection laws and the croke park agreement. They treat democratic processes as an inconvenience.

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  • As former member of unite i fully support jimmy Kellys stand against the bullying tactics of howling and his tribe of faceless suits who will never face the severe economic problems they have served on the people they are suppose to protect

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  • Unions lost their soul somewhere in the seventies……..

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  • Might have to explain democracy to them first,look it up in the dictionary enda it’s basically everything we are not.

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  • Where in the ‘democratic process’ is the so called social partnership by which a bunch of unelected representatives of various vested interests, unions included, ruled and ruined the country?

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  • Any other we should be attacking, people are fed up the union bashing, cannot touch the farmers, as for the church and the their WAGE structure and payment of state taxes,dear god NO stay away from that, what about a tax on all savings and deposits of 150,000 euro, Oh dear, dear, no way, what a bloody kip, and I am paying for it monthly.

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  • bigmac 18/03/13 #

    The unions elect their reps by secret vote. In general turnout is greater than general elections, if you think unions are problem then dont join one, or for all the people who are anti-union why dont you all give your workmates a break and take a voluntary pay cut say 20% and increase your hours to 50 or 60 a week with no day off, or breaks and while your at it give up your paid holidays and maternity/paternity leave and better still put your kids to work as well because we all know that if companies and corporations thought they could get away with it and increase profit margins then they would do it in a heart beat, the.only thing that stands in their way is collective barganing which is basically what a union does

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  • http://www.thejournal.ie/kenny-elected-as-taoiseach-of-31st-dail-99906-Mar2011/
    this is what our glorious leader said when appointed taoiseach ;
    I think his comments about our “children’s eyes” are particularly apt.

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  • How can the unions accuse politicians of being un-democratic when it was the government that was elected to sort out our unsustainable finances and not Jack O Connor et al? They held away over Bertie long enough and look where that got us.

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  • Kelly closed Waterford Crystal. He now wants a shot at Ireland.

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    • Kelly did not close the glass. Supporting royal doultan and the like closed the glass factory. You sound like a 1990 scab.

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    • censored 18/03/13 #

      The unions destroyed Waterford Crystal hand in glove with the inept management.

      I’m glad you brought that up. It’s kind-of interesting to reflect on it at the present time.

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    • No they didn’t. Far from it infact. They gave all they could, redeployment, redundancy, blowers and cutters giving up their crafts, shift patterns, accepting technology, lower wages, absorbing the closure of dungarvan into kilbarry. The union struggled for years to keep kilbarry open, it was still viable on the day the receiver shut the gate, it was infact propping up the whole wedgewood group till the day it closed. The company bleed kilbarry dry to fix the fatally holed wedgewood group. Know what your talking about the next time

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    • censored 19/03/13 #

      How do you know I don’t know what I’m talking about? The fact is that the weak management in Waterford kowtowed to the unions for years. They didn’t do what they were supposed to do – lead the company to a viable future. Waterford should be one of the great success stories on this island. Instead it was bled dry. In your own words the unions “accepted” technology. Wow! That’s the way to compete alright.

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    • Accepted technology along with getting rid of the craft. Everything was made on blowing machines, accepting technology while not saving the craft. Blowers and cutters redeployed onto machines off the blowing platform and cutting benches. Lower wages, shift patterns. It’s not just about modernisation, there is a human factor

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  • When will the unions realise that this perverse argument regarding private sector job losses resulting from public sector cuts is ridiculous in the extreme. If this argument made sense the solution to all our economic problems would be to increase public sector pay. I don’t think so!!

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    • @Kevin, I never said who is to blame but I seem to have touched a nerve!
      Varadkar is one of my favourites actually because he is one of very few that calls it as he sees it. That’s what I’m inclined to do myself. Anyone that does’nt like it can put back on their rose-tinted glasses and pretend it will all sort itself out if we would just be good little drones and wait for the second coming…..

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  • What a typically eloquent and constructive Union representative. Where would we be without them.

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  • Mike El 18/03/13 #

    Sounds like this guy has very little appreciation of economics. The result will not be a loss of private sector jobs, but rather it will result in the cooling of the current over inflation in the cost of living being caused by the inflated wage packets in the public sector. It will actually mean that people will be able to live on less and we will most likely see a return to the work force for some of those currently on welfare, as the subprime positions will then actually be a viable option for them. This in turn will reduce government spending. That’s my take on it. I’m sure many will not agree though.

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