This is why the British/Irish film producers have not yet produced an Imam Ted series

Or Osama the turntable terrorist.

Apparently it was made by an israeli director. If true, its not surprising. http://rt.com/art-and-culture/news/israeli-filmmaker-hiding-muhammad-932/

Didn`t take too long before someone blamed the Israeli`s.

Maybe not an Israeli after all John.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/09/muhammad-film-consultant-sam-bacile-is-not-israeli-and-not-a-real-name/262290/

Its called inflicting your beliefs on others, catholic church did it for years….they even killed many people with the excuse.

Hell the USA inflicted their beliefs and freedoms onto other countrys for decades as well,

If no limit on free speech is the required standard then those who are harmed by ”lies in joke” have a right to Equality of mockery and abuse of their peer groups. So when will we be getting an Imam Ted, Rabi Ted etc.

In fairness Barry you can hardly compare the catholic church to the fundamentalist hatred of Suicide bombers and terrorists. When was the last time the Catholic church bombed and killed in a terrorist way.

In a terrorist way? Is that the worst kind of murder? Did they (Catholics) do it in the nice non terroristy way? That’s pretty damn funny! Or do you mean the difference between killing people using a bomb from a plane or a bomb vest?

Jasus Dave you need to understand what Islam means to these people before sounding so ignorant.

Read a book.

@El Cheebo , any particular book you can recommend , but please nothin religious I’m not a fan of all those bullshitty parables n stuff , but hey if there’s some particular book you have in mind that will make me apparently less ignorant , it seems me thinking that it’s nonsense people want to kiil other people over religion makes me the ignorant one , my friend stick to debate and spare me the personal insults , I’m very aware of ‘ what it means to these people’ ,and clearly I don’t own the copyright on ignorance

Try the Quran for a start.

@El Cheebo, Religious tolerance goes only so far. it should NEVER go so far as to justify violence and perhaps those who read any religious texts should read them as they truly are – words of men, not the word of any god.

@elcheebo , the Quran , no not interested in that at all , old tales and parables written by men at a time when humankind was less knowledgeable than we are today about how the universe actually works , I’d prefer something like Stephen Hawking explaining the world , its far more informative and educational in my opinion , The while religion thing doesn’t do it for me , its full of baloney , my life is much happier without all those man made bullshit stories.

Well then you’ll never understand Islam and why they do what they do.

Actually El Cheebo – it’s not hard to understand that. Just like any religion which tolerates and pretty much advocates violence, Islam is understood to be not that dissimilar to other Abrahamic religions where the scripture has been written by people with agendas in that it excuses violence by those who have blinkered themselves for their own agenda.

People understand the general messages within religious texts, but nobody should accept the violence that results from selective interpretations of texts which are unreliable as historic texts.

Savages who were put in power by NATO. This sort of thing wouldn’t have happened under Gadaffi.

Brendan that’s such an inacureate comment I don’t even know where to start. Any country in overthrow of government is going to be unstable of years. This was ignorant savages at work. Not done on behalf of new state or old regime

It’s not inaccurate. NATO intervened in the Libyan war on the side of the religious fundamentalists and now they are in power. Gadaffi wasn’t a headbanger like the people who are running Libya today.

Brendan, look up the results of the elections in Libya. Secularist moderates won and are now in power. Stop spreading disinformation.

A dictator who stamped on his own people and kept them in fear isn’t an improvement Brendan. This is a result of post-revolution instability and the people who did this are savages

It’s extremely naive to think this is just the teething problems of a new state. The islamist mobs in Benghazi were armed by Cameron and Sarkozy to overthrow the legitimate Libyan government. It was a typical short sighted imperialist policy that will backfire just like it did in Afghanistan. Gadaffi achieved a lot of positive things for the Libyan people and built Africas only welfare state. He has been replaced by a government of Al Queda members and various other criminals and opportunists. That is a regressive step in the eyes of any sane person.

What is the world coming to when I agree with you twice in two days :o

You are right, there is no excuse for this. It’s ridiculous that humanity has gone far enough to explore other planets yet we kill each other over fairy tales.

Barry, thank you. At the end of the day I like to see myself as a moderate. I just want a sane world with the mob all gone.

Just realised that the comment above probably set off every red flag word in their cyber-security dictionary!

Well said

Radical Islam, not all the Muslims.

Daithi, yes of course the radicals.

What a load of tripe.

Religion is used everyday as a means of war. It just so happens the countries who control the worlds media want to demonize Islam and Muslims. You cant even utter these words without thinking of the word terrorist. Their job is done.

Damn u iPhone Nutters not butters lol they’ll be after me now for calling them butters!

I love Butters he’s one of the best southpark characters.

Very true. But I guess that many pick on Islam because they know it’s an easy target that will inflame tension. I think all should be treated with disdain equally.

Hope you don’t get targeted by an enraged fundamentalist Christian suicide bomber.
Did you ever hear of one of those?

Catholicism is the only religion that can be abused SAFELY. This distinguishes it amongst the faiths.

Your statement that all religions are cancers is obviously a subjective response. Many many people find comfort and support in religion. Its what people do with religion that is either classed as terrorist (fundamentalists punishing non believers) or a way to find peace in this life. Not defending Institutional Religions and man made rules and regulations. But religion supports many peoples faith in a peaceful non violent way.

You guys are obviously unaware of the history of the Catholic church and other Christian denominations. Their history is not full of peace. They only changed when modern civilisation emerged in the West and they couldn’t keep up all their barbaric practices. Except pedophilia. That practice was kept.

Islam is a pretty peaceful religion in comparison to other religions like Catholicism as an example.

Just don’t go messing with it.

@Barry When you describe the Catholic Church having a past where they used “barbaric practices”, many people use this arguement and refer to The Crusades which took place between the 11th – 14th century. We’re in the 21st century now.
Radical Islamists still base their lifeon a book which MAY have been written in the 7th century but that’s how they live their lives. As you said, tongue in cheek, the rest of the world have moved on, we adaped, we would hope we became a little more civilised but these folks haven’t, they still want to live their lives in the 7th century but we’re supposed to live like that too? I don’t think so.

In fairness the Bible doesn’t actually officially sanction pedophilia. The Koran does (Koran 65.4)

” It’s stronghold is the Middle East and started with the Iranian Revolution…”

Actually, Islamism has its roots in the 19th century. But you’re not interested in facts, are you? Self-indulgently spewing forth your ill-informed prejudices is far more fun.

Kevin: a Zionist hoodlum and an ignoramus to boot!

Do you mean Americans or fundamentalist muslims?

Ah now let’s not start with the BS that Ghadafi was a great guy , school kids were hanged for speaking out under his brutal regime , the list of missing and disappeared politicians during that genius shouldn’t be glorified as a tag on to a story like this..

I’ll take back the part where I said Gadafi was a lovely guy… If I can find it

Gadafi did far worse under his regime – he just made sure it kept from international media.

Painting him in any kind of positive light just to score points against NATO because an angry mob attacks an embassy reeks of desperation.

Also, the Libyan people destabilised Libya, NATO just levelled the playing field.

I didn’t ask you to take anything back , I don’t see why you should bring Ghadafi into the story

If Gadafi was such a tyrant, explain why libyan citizens under his regime were entitled to many benefits like:

-Newly weds people of Libya used to get about 50,000 dollars from Government
-Medical expenses in Government hospitals was free in Libya.
-The price of the patrol was 0.14 cents in Libya

Much more here:
http://expertscolumn.com/content/list-good-things-muammar-gaddafi-done-people-libya

Under Gadaffi, Libya had the highest standards of living in Africa.

“IF Ghadaffi was such a tyrant ? ……Perhaps you need to read up a bit more and familiarise yourself with facts , this nonsense about all the great things , Hitler and the Nazi had one of the largest social welfare plans in the world too , it doesn’t excuse the evil , besides……the article is about an ambassador being killed because some people are unhappy about how some other people ( not him ) portrayed Mohammad ,so it’s not about how great (or not) you think Ghadaffi was.

El cheebo , please try stick to discussing the topic and refrain from pushing religious non sense

Amen

So if a situation like the Holocaust or the Rwanden genocide happened again, the outside world should just say “not my problem, not getting involved”?

Cold.

Um which country doesn’t have interests? Would you rather Iran have the same amount of power like the US? Did I say the US cares about people in other countries? Of course “caring” is going to be selelctive to any countries interests. You claim America is this horrible evil country because they stopped Hitler, nuked Japan in response to them bombing us while we were neutral, and WW1? Hm, interesting. I don’t watch Fox News. Praising America doesn’t mean I 100% support it’s foreign policy. I just have a problem with Islamofacism. America doesn’t persecute/kill its own citizens. America is the only country you can degrade, insult, cheer terrorist attacks on the country, and burn its flag without punishment. Sounds like a very intolerant/dictator-like country. America in Afghanistan/Pakistan is justified. Also I think everyone knows the reason behind Iraq; never said I condone it. But its interesting how you spread your anti-American propaganda on a article about Americans being savagely killed. The idea that Islamism does not threaten America and Europe is absurd. My family has experienced the “peace of Islam” in Pakistan; so don’t need you’re so-called “facts”. Its also interesting that politicians/famous peope who spew propaganda like yours are worshiped on Al Qaeda sites.

“America is responsible for millions of deaths.” Uh yeah, let’s count World War 1 & 2, and all the wars America “started”. The America created argument is so pathetic. I know they created the Taliban to fight Russia; not to screw America over. Petr you’re anti-Semitism is getting irritating. Everything you say about Israel/Jews is word for word on the KKK website. I’m the sicko? Lol. Where do you think the European Jews ancestors come from? They are the Hebrews who fled Israel after the Islamic conquests. I know how dare the Jews be allowed to have their ancestors lands back. There’s only like what every country in the Middle East that is Arab/Islamic dominated. Oh yeah and who was parading down the streets on 9/11? It wasn’t any Israelis, it was the “Palestinians”. I’m done talking to Grand Wizard/Sheikh Petr and John the man of unblemished truth and fairness.

What did I post that was anti-Semitic? This should be good…

People like you amaze me; condemn America. But yet they don’t condemn Iran, China, Russia, Islamic countries. There is no perfect country. But in America Muslims are able to scream death to America, burn US flags, cheer in the streets on 9/11, honor killings, etc. In Midle Eastern countries a Muslim who leaves Islam is executed. Are you outages by the 4 year old Pakistani girl who was raped by the landlords son because they wouldn’t convert to Islam, the 11 year old girl thrown in prison for blasphemy(which turned out to be a lie; had it not she would have been executed), the bombings of churches, beheadings of women/non-Muslims, slitting non-Muslims throats, burning non-Muslims homes, throwing rocks at Christians? They are all Middle Eastern as well, only not Muslim. I thank America for offering freedom to the oppressed at the same time the oppressors come to live in America while they hate it. You are a one-sided bigot. You are not from there, so who are you to make such claims. People are outraged that terrorists are condemned; but could care less about what those terrorists do to innocent people(infidels). We are at war with Islamism, you’re denial and selelctive criticisms is sick.

No I’m not saying any killing is something to be desired, but what brought those drones to that part of the world? Continued attacks on America, flying planes into buildings. Its all very well saying, Oh but they didn’t do it, from what we have seen in Libya and Egypy these people have plenty of supporters. The fact of the matter is in the Middle East and these parts of the world countries in the West, predominantly America, are hated and have been hated long before 9/11 and before the use of drones. It was groups like Al Qaeda, who were supported throught the Middle East, who decided to attack America and the West, when they hit back they’re NOW worrying about their people. What about those killed in the Twin Towers, London Bombings or the Madrid Bombings. Sorry, they woke a sleeping giant. Deal with it.

Uh yeah that’s why the Iraqi and Afghani people vote for pro-US parties. The Taliban are the ones who kill civilians in Afghanistan/ Al Qaeda came to Iraq because of the US presence and are the ones killing civilians. America is not in Afghanistan and Iraq to kill civilians; whether one agrees or disagees with the wars.

@Abdul It’s a common occurrence for us to ridicule the Catholic Church, for what it may or may not have done, nothing is sacred, if you’ll pardon the pun. If I were to do the same here, ridicule Islam, Muhammad, Allah or the Koran are you seriously telling me that neither you nor muslims in general would have a problem with that, it that were true then why was Chris Stevens killed and American embassies attacked?

Why does Israel have to always be brought up? Oh look a volcano erupted; let’s blame Israel. Hey a tsunami hit Asia; let’s blame that on Israel too. Islam is one of the most anti-Semitic religions on the planet. Last time I checked Jews weren’t flying planes into buildings, bombing buildings over cartoons, beheading people, and murdering anyone who doesn’t fit their Islamic world view. Don’t give me the you don’t know Islam crap. I am half-Pakistani and have seen how “peaceful” Islam is. Also how they treat non-Muslims in that region. Islam has always been a very violent religion. It got even more violent since the Iranian Revolution, which started the Islamism movement.

It seems that the propaganda part of this incident is the claim that the film maker is half-Israeli. ‘Sam Becile’ the apparent film maker doesn’t even appear to be real.

Kevin you mustn’t check the news very often. Israel murder and kill innocent people everyday. They fly their planes and drop their bombs on women and children. They are openly waging war on Iran. They have imprisoned the nation of Palestine and are currently starving them, leaving them without sanitation and water.

Yeh Israel has no agenda against Islam lol.

You’re response is propaganda/anti-Semitic. None of it is true. I feel so bad for the Islamic Republic of Iran because it is such a tolerant/peaceful country. A person with hate like yourself, I really hope you don’t reside in Ireland.

I’m sick of people calling others anti Semitic when anyone makes a point of Israel’s actions in the west bank.

What I’ve said is true, has happened and will continue to happen. It’s not propaganda it’s not Anti Semitic it’s fact.

I am not Anti Semitic either, I just read the news and history. I have family and friends who are Jewish but no your ignorance knows no bounds.

I am anti war and pro peace. The same can’t be said for Israel and it’s supporters.

Back on topic, everyone knows how fanatics can ruin a good thing. Zionists do it for Judaism like the fundamentalists do for Islam. The writer in question should’ve known the outcry he would cause by depicting Islam as a cancer and creating an image of Mohammad.

I am Irish and proud thank you. I can only assume you must be from Israel the amount of blind bias you are showing.

@El Cheebo, can you tell us who Israel killed today, no, ok yesterday? It should be easy to provide a link to prove your point.

@ Paddy, you should already know how stupid your response is since it’s near impossible to find accurate up to date reports.

However I’ll attempt to focus on facts rather than try to insult you in an attempt to sugar coat an illegal state.

There is currently over 1.2 million Palestinian’s living in the west bank. Cut off from society, without basic amenities due to Israel destroying their infrastructure, surrounded by a 50 foot wall, some starving and others dying due to the lack of medical assistance. Since people die everyday it’s easily assumed that lives could’ve been saved if these sanctions weren’t imposed upon these people by a military regime. Also since the 80′s it is estimated that over 8000 Palestinians have died as a result of the Israeli militaries presence in the region. This is compared to around 1500 isreali’s. I’ll refrain from using any figures from the 6 day war in the 60′s to the 80′s as finding accurate numbers is impossible.

The number as always is disproportionate Israel is the aggressor. They choose to ignore UN laws on their borders, continue to make land grabs and to build illegal settlements all the while disposing the rightful owners of their lands in the name of their divine right. This divinity is not the only form of propaganda they use, it’s portrayed in the news, and media all the time. The latter (media) is the core issue that has led to the death of a brave ambassador. The article says it was an Israeli backed production and since the Danish reporters cartoon it can only be assumed it was a direct provocation designed to cause uproar within Islamic extremist circles. This kind of propaganda media should never have been created in the first place.

Alas Paddy I fear you can’t see the truth for yourself and well I am left wondering if you are Israeli yourself as only they are so blinded by their own divine right to cause so much misery in the middle east.

Now don’t get me wrong, or call me anti Semitic, the Jewish state has a right to exist it’s not divine and it’s certainly not humane to retain that state by force, by ignoring international laws and borders and most of all by disposing the natural inhabitants in the way they have. In affect creating a massive concentration camp in the hope they – the problem will simply go away.

@ El Cheebo, you can`t find accurate data but you`re certain that Israel kills palestinian Arabs everyday,how?

“There is currently over 1.2 million Palestinian’s living in the west bank. Cut off from society, without basic amenities due to Israel destroying their infrastructure, surrounded by a 50 foot wall, some starving and others dying due to the lack of medical assistance. Since people die everyday it’s easily assumed that lives could’ve been saved if these sanctions weren’t imposed upon these people by a military regime”

Leaving your other silly assertions aside like the 50` wall,( that is 90% fence), have you any data that points to starvation in the WB, or should we just rely on your word again?
Btw let me reassure you I`m 100% irish, I very much doubt you are though.

@ Paddy you ask for facts and I provide them and you pawn them off as silly assertions. It’s clear to me now your a boards.ie troll, the type who screams for data and when given data that goes against their points they denounce them.

Good on ya.

I think you are focusing on the seats between 64 and the 80′s re no accurate data. That’s because there we few recorded data soured. However the 8000 v 1500 is from Reuters.

So let me get this straight, you deny there is any conflict in Palestine. That military atrocities are lies. That the sanctions imposed upon the west bank are lies too. You deny there is a serious lack of food, water, medical and sanitation supplies in Gaza. Your defense of your position is that you’ve either been on the moon or have no access to the Internet and are too lazy to run a quick google yourself in order to refute and deny the facts presented to you? You also go as far as to insult and question my nationality.

I am left with only one assertion, you are a troll. The type who bounces into discussions looking for facts and data sources in order to troll a decent debate. So you can think to your self ha I win lol. I assure you there are no winners in the Israeli Palestinian debate.

Your pure ignorance in historical facts is frustrating bit I am no longer going to continue this fruitless chat with a moronic troll.

Slan mo chara lol.

@ El Cheebo, You seem to think it`s an unreasonable request to ask someone in a debate for credible evidence,very strange.Calling someone a troll for asking to prove their assertions just won`t wash. On the other hand posting unsubstantiated and frankly ridiculous statements like “Israel murder and kill innocent people everyday” is definitely the behaviour of a troll.
Ok up to date records are not available to you,ha. Could you at least provide a link to the last killing that Israel has carried out.

Btw was ” Slan mo chara” your attempt to try and convince us that you`re Irish, ha!

The drones are used to target terrorists not civilians because they are Muslim; that is absurd. Yes civilians are killed and it’s unfortunate; Pakistanis/Afghans killings are overwhelmingly done by the Taliban. Care to share some facts on the Blasphemy Laws, Church bombings, embassy bombings, mutilation of non-Muslims? This article has nothing to do with drones in Afghanistan/Pakistan. The Afghan and Pak government allow the drones. I am Half-Pakistani and Pakistan/Afghanistan is no victim like you try to depict. No outrage over Islamic intolerance.