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Eamon Gilmore speaking at the Global Irish Economic Forum in Dublin Castle this morning. Niall

Diaspora to get 'recognition' system - but NOT honours system

Tánaiste Eamon Gilmore announces new scheme at Global Irish Economic Forum as Taoiseach Enda Kenny speaks of “new age” lying ahead for Ireland.

TÁNAISTE AND FOREIGN Affairs Minister Eamon Gilmore has announced a new “recognition” awards system for members of the diaspora who are considered to have served Ireland or Irish communities abroad.

In his opening address to the Global Irish Economic Forum at Dublin Castle this morning, Gilmore applauded the “influence of the global Irish” which he said spread further in the world than any other small country. He described the Irish diaspora as hard-working and creative and that Ireland should take pride in their achievements. He said:

I am, therefore, pleased to announce that the Government will shortly introduce a new system of recognition for sustained and distinguished service to Ireland or Irish communities abroad by individual members of the diaspora.

He insisted that the system would NOT be an honours system but “rather will involve the formal recognition every year of individuals from a range of sectors at a ceremony in Ireland”.

The Tánaiste said that more detailed proposals would be brought before the Government shortly. The Irish Constitution does not support an honours system or nobility classification such as that conferred by the English monarchy.

The Government awarded its first Certificate of Irish Heritage two weeks ago to Bridget Hunter, the mother of a New York firefighter who died on 9/11. Joseph Hunter died while attending the site of the terrorist attacks at the World Trade Center in 2001. People have been able to apply for the certificates since last Friday – but unlike that honorary first one, they will have to pay €40 plus delivery costs for them.

He also announced that an online network for Irish people “and those who think Irish”, WorldIrish.com, was being launched at the forum by John McColgan.

Taoiseach Enda Kenny’s opening speech recalled that in the same hall where the main forum was taking place, the Government and the President had welcomed Queen Elizabeth II last May – “a sight, an even, we thought we might never see”.

He said that he felt that the event was part of Ireland’s bid to get its “message of regeneration and resurgence” out to the rest of the world. He paid tribute to the late co-founder of Apple, Steve Jobs, who died on Wednesday night at his Californian home, saying that his example of creativity and leadership set the bar for the next generation.

It is that same spirit, that same creativity, that same love of Ireland, belief in Ireland, that brings us here to Dublin Castle today.

Clearly intent on reminding us of the State visits earlier this year, the Taoiseach referred to US President Barack Obama’s words of encouragement to Ireland on the steps of College Green, saying that our best days are ahead of us. As with Eamon Gilmore in a later response to Sinn Féin’s Gerry Adams at the forum, he focused on some positives in the Irish economic situation in recent months, including:

  • the spread between Irish and German bond yields halving since July
  • the Central Bank revising its upward growth forecast for this year
  • a slight decrease in Live Register figures for last month.

He said: “My vision is to make Ireland the best small country in the world in which to do business by 2016.”

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    Mute angryzes
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:26 AM

    I grew up in USSR and we had DIY lessons in school, I can confirm – most of the skills I use all the time in my life after that, must have!

    For “cold war” fans – I also learned in school how to throw a grenade and what to do in case of a nuclear strike :)

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    Mute Gerard Murphy
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    Feb 13th 2012, 1:35 PM

    Sh*t, you played with hand grenades and we learned about Peig!

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    Mute Bob Coggins
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:12 AM

    Our sex education included elements of DIY…

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    Mute Lionel Hutz
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:33 AM

    … literally “daddy then puts his plug into mammy’s socket”.

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    Mute Daniel O'Sullivan
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:08 AM

    I would agree but their is people who haven’t the hands to bless them selfs with.

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    Mute Emma Conway
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:36 AM

    I remember in our Home Ec book there was a basic ‘How to Wire a Plug’ type section. Can’t hurt teaching these basic skills in school. Take away one of the Religion classes for it.

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    Mute Hanly Sheelagh
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:54 AM

    Do people now believe that if they have a go at religion everytime they open their mouths that they are somehow making some kind of comment that is intelligent or what. It is the new sheeple activity….lemmings

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    Mute Rommel Burke
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    Feb 13th 2012, 2:25 PM

    No Sheelagh, but replacing the teaching of it in schools is a valid opinion these days.

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    Mute Deirdre Forde
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    Feb 13th 2012, 2:55 PM

    I remember that. It came in handy there a couple of months ago.. a good 15 years later!

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    Mute Emma Conway
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    Feb 13th 2012, 4:46 PM

    @Hanley I was not picking on Religion classes just for the sake of picking on religion. I only suggested them be used because in a lot of schools they are used as free classes or study periods. I had three a week when I was in school and it would have been beneficial for myself and my classmates to take one of those classes and be taught how to change a tire or something to that effect. It wouldn’t have spoiled my religious education if I had two instead of three classes a week.

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    Mute stephen corrigan
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:13 AM

    It certainly would be more useful than imposed irish!

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    Mute Gill Jones
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:42 AM

    Forced Irish! No choice but to ‘learn’ it.

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    Mute sluazcanal
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    Feb 13th 2012, 2:59 PM

    I am pretty sure i had no choice in any of my subjects until Second Level.

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    Mute Paul Mallon
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:59 AM

    They should teach basic computer maintenance too, along with the importance of/how to set your privacy settings.

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    Mute angryzes
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    Feb 13th 2012, 12:04 PM

    Keyboard typing lessons (touch typing) would be also handy.

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    Mute Eamon O Regan
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:13 AM
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    Mute Gill Jones
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:34 AM

    YouTube :)

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    Mute Rommel Burke
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:20 AM

    Start by teaching them how to change a wheel. lol

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    Mute Barry
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:44 AM

    This should be part of the driving test, if you can’t chance the wheel of your car then you can’t pass the test

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    Mute Sovereign Being
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    Feb 13th 2012, 12:20 PM

    Get rid of ALL religion classes and replace them with useful, practical things such as DIY. That’s how we save this country. Get on it!

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    Mute Jambbie
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    Feb 13th 2012, 12:15 PM

    Needs to be a separate “How to change wiper blades class”, especially for Halfords staff.

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    Mute Kevin Quinlan
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:18 AM

    I think there has been what I call a “soft push” for people not to do things themselves. It has been viewed as good for the economy to phone someone else ie. a professional. I phone someone to install a dishwasher for example. They charge e100 to do the job. There’s a tax due right there. Their company takes 60% of the remainder while the man gets his 40% and both pay tax on that. Because we don’t trust anybody, we require this man to be certified to do this right in case it all goes pear-shaped, so that means he had to go to to school. There’s teachers get paid who pay tax…………….You see where this is going. Imagine if I go buy a few washers and a spanner and do it myself. Maybe I’ll teach my kids how to do this too. I could get in trouble!!

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    Mute Paulie K
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:24 AM

    having been to many “diy experts” houses to put right their own attempts at small wiring jobs. i would imagine that a fair amount of those people saying they have a knowledge of diy possibly have a toolbox with a few tools and as a result consider themselves to be experts. if your not sure leave it to the pros. hope its not taught in schools for selfish reasons it would mean less handy jobs for me.

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    Mute Aurfur
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    Feb 13th 2012, 2:32 PM

    How many professional electricians are competent to use an oscilloscope for measuring timing of contact bounce/ release times of contacts. Or using generic meters to test rather than one click machines. Many DIYers are very capable. Of course some know their limitations. I have met loads of professional electricians who don’t understand peak, rms, power factor, and j notation, capacitive and inductive circuits etc. Few electricians would know how to measure peak voltage with an ordinary moving coil meter calibrated for rms. Few know the effect of using too high an input impedence meter on a dead cable when testing before working on.

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    Mute You know
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    Feb 13th 2012, 2:44 PM

    @Aurfur 99.99% of domestic electrical call outs would never need any of what you mentioned.

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    Mute Paulie K
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    Feb 13th 2012, 2:55 PM

    only speaking from personal experience but then i don’t suppose those who are genuine need a sparks to fix it. Fas syllabus has everything you mention in it and if you know the theory and maths behind electricity an rms meter is all you need to get peak.

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    Mute Aurfur
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    Feb 13th 2012, 3:13 PM

    If you want to test a residual current breaker, or test a capacitor (well pumps) and subsequently change it you need to understand peak and rms values and how to use generic test gear. Also need to understand how to calculate capacitance in series and parallel if the correct value is not to hand on a call out. Whilst we are on that subject adjusting relay tension, follow through and residual gaps all come into play on switch gear for pumps. Surely the object of a competent person is to safely restore service to non working equipment as soon as possible.

    I saw a professional electrician test a dead cable with a 10 Mohms per volt input impedance meter and then couldn’t understand why he had a 100 volt reading on it. I lent him a 20 Kohm per volt analogue meter and suggested he try that. He never understood why he now had a zero reading but was happy to then work on the cable.

    Finally if a boiler doesnt work you can’t just change the boiler you need to be able to test which component is faulty before disconnecting and repairing or replacing.

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    Mute Aurfur
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    Feb 13th 2012, 4:06 PM

    Pauline K

    True you can calculate peak from rms and vice versa, but to actually measure peak with an rms calibrated multimeter you have to make up some circuitry. Square root of two and reciprocal of root two only apply to pure sine waves. With modified waveforms found in inverters there might be some uncertainty. Certainly most analogue meters with the exception of moving iron meters are calibrated to measure full sine waves at rms and within some frequency limitations. Hence a half wave rectified non smoothed interface would give a false rms reading, and if smoothed would read peak even if not a sine wave, provided the components used were suitably chosen. And to be correct if making up an interface to measure peak the losses in the components would need also to be taken into account.

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    Mute Mark Dolan
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    Feb 13th 2012, 12:30 PM

    Have to admit though, nothing like a recession to force you to learn these skills. Only yesterday I replaced the Alternator on my car, I still feel a little glow of achievment! I think it would be an excellent idea to teach it in schools along with basic cookery skills and diet advise. Youtube is a great resource of knowledge for these things, and you can have it on your smartphone or PC tab while you do it!

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    Feb 13th 2012, 12:58 PM

    I learned most of this stuff myself as a kid from doing it myself or from the oul lad. What’s happened to kids who now have better access to the info? Too mollycoddled that’s the problem.

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    Mute Barry
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:47 AM

    It amuses me what people don’t know what to do, and pay people to do for them

    - Bleed rads
    - Bleed oil boilers (seriously easy to do!)
    - Replace a plug socket (also very very easy)
    - Wire a plug (seriously)
    - Wire a light socket (again also seriously easy)

    And yet people pay other people to do these very easy things…the bleeding a oil boiler is as easy as bleeding a rad in fairness,

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    Mute Thomas Meaney
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    Feb 13th 2012, 1:51 PM

    Interesting points!! Now when the person adjusts the oil pump pressure instead of bleeding the oil pump on a Riello G3b what happens or when they bleed the radiators and it drops the system pressure so much the circ pump cavitates and the boiler shuts down what do you do?

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    Mute Rommel Burke
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    Feb 13th 2012, 2:21 PM

    Call a plumber? You wouldn’t know any would ya Thomas? ;)

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    Feb 13th 2012, 3:04 PM

    Make sandwich (easy) but i still go to subway;)

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    Mute Aurfur
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    Feb 13th 2012, 3:29 PM

    Buy a gauge, bleed the fuel, look at the pump manual, follow fault finding flow chart and reset procedure. Adjust pressure to manufacturers settings.
    Recharge the primary water system with the filling loop to about 1bar. Get system going and calculate correct running pressure for system and size of pressure vessel.

    How many plumbers over here fit a micronic filter to the fuel supply and a capillary fuel cut off outside the building with internal and external manual fuel shut off valves as per most boiler manufacturers manuals.

    Sorry forgot wont have to buy a pressure gauge or smoke pump or gas analyser as I already got them in my tool box some years ago. Competent DIYer.

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    Mute Brian O'Donnell
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    Feb 13th 2012, 2:18 PM

    Parents are the primary educators of a child-let them learn DIY in the home!

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    Mute Fintan O'Mahony
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    Feb 13th 2012, 7:15 PM

    Leave it to us teachers lads. We can shows kids how to wire plugs, fix tyres, drive cars and throw grenades in between solving all the ills of society from drunkness to morality, and teach, all at the same time.

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    Mute Tom Neville
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    Feb 13th 2012, 7:45 PM

    Agree. Let teachers teach.

    Getting teachers to teach DIY is like parents abdicating responsibility for teaching menial tasks which should be taught at home.

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    Mute Adam Magari
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    Feb 13th 2012, 1:24 PM

    No one should leave high school with learning to drive. Seems crazy not to have that as part of the curriculum. Learning to wire a plug, change a tap, fix a puncture – where do you stop with basic DIY?

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    Mute Helena Hasler
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    Feb 13th 2012, 11:57 PM

    I work in the community centre where I live and we are offering a DIY class for €10 for 10 weeks not beyond anyone’s means especially if it saves them any money long term.

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    Mute Sean Mc Avinue
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    Feb 14th 2012, 4:19 AM

    Very reasonable and good on you

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    Mute Tom Neville
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    Feb 13th 2012, 7:44 PM

    FFS, this is DIY. Let the teachers teach. Mums and dads should teach kids how to do DIY. A teacher has no business doing this.

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    Mute Helena Hasler
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    Feb 13th 2012, 9:41 PM

    but if there is a gap in the passing on of these life skills then somewhere along the way it needs to be taught. I think most people point out that maybe as part of the TY programme not everyday teaching.

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    Mute Sean Mc Avinue
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    Feb 13th 2012, 10:15 PM

    Don’t need classes Plenty of DIY books and DVDs out there for basics. Anyway most people are struggling so can’t afford classes

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    Mute Lisa Saputo
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    Feb 13th 2012, 3:59 PM

    I learned how to change plugs in school, we did all that stuff in Home Economics.

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    Mute Thomas Meaney
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    Feb 13th 2012, 2:01 PM

    Bleeding a radiator is simple?? What happens when you bleed your radiator and the system pressure drops so much the boiler shuts itself down? Why is there air in the radiator in the first place? How did it get in there? It didnt magically appear! How many times can you bleed the radiators before you cause serious damage to your system? And they said it was easy! The act is easy the consequences and reasons might not be so easy hence the experienced professional!

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    Mute angryzes
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    Feb 13th 2012, 3:54 PM

    Pressure drop? You must have some sort of a gague (manometer) somewhere in your hotpress or around boiler where you can see current pressure and add more water from the mains using tap provided to increase the pressure. Pretty simple thing, there must be even some sort of a red arrow which points to the safe limit value, just keep adding water until black arrow reaches red one. If you do not have red arrow, no problem : usually safe limit is about 1,5 or 2 bar. Rocket science?

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    Mute Aurfur
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    Feb 13th 2012, 8:02 PM

    Agreed and then you clear the leak from the potential fault that the plumber left some years ago cos either he didn’t solder the joints properly and clean up afterward, or the compression joints weren’t tightened properly. How many plumbers can lead weld (burn) and know how to solder lead today.

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    Mute John Conniffe
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    Feb 13th 2012, 3:24 PM

    We’ve had or view shifted to view many things as disposable and replaceable rather than repairable. Repair a mobile phone? Repair a Playstation. Even Sony have a policy of replacing rather than repairing returned units. It’s no wonder we don’t fix things ourselves anymore. Those ” warranty is void if opened/removed” stickers are not exactly or emoting self repair. Fixed my washing machine last month, after a mammoth amount of calls to get a repairman out ( still under warranty ). Gave me a big old jolt of masculine pride…

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    Mute Helena Hasler
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    Feb 13th 2012, 7:32 PM

    basic cooking skills should be taught too, everyone eats. everyone should be able to prepare simple meals for themselves. I have spoken to loads of people who live on take away because of total inability to cook for themselves, could this be part of the obesity problem.

    On a similar note I had someone out to look at my dishwasher as its been playing up and I was told the part would be more expensive than a new machine white goods aren’t designed to last anymore.

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    Mute Tom Neville
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    Feb 13th 2012, 9:16 PM

    Helena,

    With the greatest of respect but if someone cannot cook a simple meal, it is due entirely to laziness or personal choice, not inability.

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