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THE HEALTH MINISTER has said a tweet sent by NPHET’s modelling expert Professor Philip Nolan comparing antigen tests to snake oil was an unhelpful comment.
Speaking to reporters after Cabinet today, Stephen Donnelly said antigen testing is a part of Government policy when it comes to reopening society.
Responding to a tweet by supermarket chain Lidl, which was advertising the sale of its new antigen tests alongside barbecue goods such as sausages, Nolan said:
“Can I get some snake oil with that? It makes for a great salad dressing with a pinch of salt and something acerbic. Stay safe when socialising outdoors over the next few weeks. Small numbers, distance, masks. These antigen tests will not keep you safe.”
Can I get some snake oil with that? It makes for a great salad dressing with a pinch of salt and something acerbic. Stay safe when socialising outdoors over the next few weeks. Small numbers, distance, masks. These antigen tests will not keep you safe. https://t.co/CsoTNrpfye
— Professor Philip Nolan (@President_MU) May 8, 2021
“I don’t think it was a helpful comment, if I’m honest. It is Government policy.
“I have great respect for Prof Nolan and I have no doubt that his concern was around people using them in the wrong way,” Donnelly said today.
“I think it is entirely possible that anybody just going into a supermarket and picking up a pack without maybe having had a conversation about the fact that if you get a negative result it really doesn’t necessarily mean you’re negative at all that it could create a certain risk.
“But I think they are one part of the tool kit we have and I think as the technology gets better and better and the specificity and sensitivity of the tests gets better and better and the usability of them as well gets better and better, I think there is a good chance that as the year progresses and probably through next year they will have a more important role to play,” said the minister.
The tweet has not gone down well with those in government circles who believe such remarks undermine the government’s decision on antigen testing, and muddies the waters for the public.
The Government’s chief science adviser has backed the use of rapid tests to complement other health measures.
Expert group recommends antigen test use
Last month, an expert group tasked with assessing the use of antigen testing, which was chaired recommended that the self-administered Covid-19 tests should be rolled out across a number of settings.
The expert group was chaired by Professor Mark Ferguson, Director General of Science Foundation Ireland and Chief Scientific Adviser to the government.
The group also included Professor Mary Horgan, President of Royal College of Physicians in Ireland and Professor Kingston Mills, Professor of Experimental Immunology, Trinity College Dublin.
The report recommended that consideration be given to roll out the tests to employers, community groups, schools, colleges, sporting organisations and the public.
The group also recommended that that authorities “educate and engage the public with respect to all aspects of rapid tests”.
The tests will be used in Tourism Minister Catherine Martin’s trials of big sporting events and gigs this summer. The tests will also be rolled out across businesses as well as third level colleges in the autumn.
While it is understood there was no discussion around the Cabinet table today in relation to the matter, a government spokesperson denied that the government is concerned that the mixed messaging is confusing the public.
Senior sources state that this is not the first time that debates and remarks on antigen testing have been made online and on Twitter by some public health experts, which they viewed as pushing back against the Ferguson report.
One source said the debate around antigen testing has been had, an expert group was convened to assess the tests and a decision was reached and accepted by government.
A government spokesperson said the Taoiseach has been clear that there is a role for antigen testing, acknowledging that there has been a “split” in opinion by some public health experts.
He said they are “entitled to their view” adding that “all opinions are valued”.
Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan sounded a warning about using these kits this week following Lidl’s advert. He said antigen tests are less reliable than PCR tests.
While Government acknowledges that antigen testing is an additional measure in combating Covid-19, it is not a substitute for following public health advice, Holohan said.
Unlike PCR, antigen tests work more effectively if a person is symptomatic but are not as effective at identifying pre-symptomatic cases.
An antigen test won’t confirm if a person without symptoms has Covid-19 as these tests rely on a high viral load to identify presence of Covid-19.
According to the HSE, antigen tests are about 80% accurate if a person is symptomatic but only about 50%-60% accurate if a person has no symptoms and self-administers an antigen test.
If a person is symptomatic and receives a negative antigen test result the advice is that they should also get a PCR test, which can also detect early infection in a person.
When pointed out that in the UK, the government has an awareness campaign for the public on the use of antigen testing, a government spokesperson said “that will surely be considered” as and when antigen tests are used in certain settings.
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It should have been introduced ages ago it would have identified and prevented a lot outbreaks. Government dropped the ball again
@Paul Harvey: the sausages alone might do the trick. Antigen Sausages – a credible non meat based alternative.
@Paul Harvey: ghhjjj
Further evidence of the power trip and ego trip Nolan and NPHET have been on
@Nigel o’Neill: NEPHET’s 20 minutes of fame is nearly up, consign them to the scrapheap of history.
I wouldn’t expect anything less from Nolan. The guy has been spouting out tripe for the best part of a year now and the power he seems to think he has has borne out arrogance and flippancy on a grand scale.
@Robert Clifford: yes, and Nolan has continued bringing erasmus students from overseas to Maynooth right through the pandemic
Professor Nolan should have been removed from his position in NPHET.
@a: Holohan should have been removed years ago after the Cervical scandal. Tis a great little country with him still as CMO!
What I can’t understand is why anitgen testing is not being used for visitors to care homes. Or for unvaccinated care workers at the start of their shifts. Why are staff and residents at care homes continually getting shafted during this pandemic?
@karenmaryobrien: it’s hard not to believe that a combination of antigen screening and regular PCR testing of staff wouldn’t have prevented many of the issues in nursing homes and hospitals in December and January.
I find it strange that testing is only now being used but in order to validate the HCW vaccination program.
@karenmaryobrien: because that would be an aggressive & pro-active solution to trying to contain and eliminate this virus. Which would go against completely what this last year & half has been, which is hide away and hope the big pharma companies come to rescue. As well as controlling the spread and not track it down which was advised by the WHO last year. The only tool this government (as well as alot of others) have used is continuous lockdown, which again was the last line of defence advised by the WHO.
Maybe next time if a member of NPHET wanna take a shat on something publicly, they should maybe try back it up with stats, and figures in a press conference or media appearance, and not just do some kind of drunken rant on twitter and then go into hiding after and expecting your mates and family to try clean up the mess, while causing public confusion and dragging into medical experts from outside the country into the debate. There’s an element out there who don’t trust NPHET and all this is doing is fuelling the fire
Was about to say it’s nice to hear Stephen Donnelly talking sense for once, but then he said this
“the fact that if you get a negative result it really doesn’t necessarily mean you’re negative at all”
More govt jibber jabber, disband nphet, open everything up and let it rip
‘As a matter of fact, I can also define science another way: Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts…’ Richard Feynman
Its Government policy lol , But Ireland are one of the only EU countries who will not accept a negative antigen test when you fly into the country you must have a negative per test , Nothing but smoke and mirrors
And Holohan, they’re the ones peddeling snake oil
When the minister says “Your comments were not helpful” is the same as your Mother saying “Just you wait ’till I get you home”..
Move on tweet taken out of context slow news day
Sack the pr1ck
Donnelly’s recent comments against Prof Nolan and Dr.Holohan’s advice is inappropriate. These two doctors have led the country to the good place we are in today. They are true statesmen unlike Steven Donnelly who is just another politician with more ambition than brains. It’s actually disappointing that he takes this moment to turn against public health advice which has served this country so well.
The sausages alone might do the trick. Antigen sausages – a credible non meat based alternative
The sausages alone might do the trick. Antigen sausages – a credible non meat based alternative
The sausages alone might do the trick. Antigen sausages – a credible non meat based alternative
The sausages alone might do the trick. Antigen sausages – a credible non meat based alternative
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