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ICTU president and PSC chairman Kevin Callinan Leah Farrell

Revised terms amounting to a 6.5% pay increase accepted by public service workers

The new terms will cover the next 12 months.

A REVISED PAY deal has been accepted by public service workers.   

It will mean pay increases of 6.5% over the next 12 months, spread across three increments. 

The new terms cover the remaining year of the Building Momentum agreement and were brokered amid the cost-of-living crisis.

While welcoming the deal, Siptu’s deputy general secretary conceded they “do not match” inflation.

“These are extraordinary times with high levels of inflation and resulting cost of living increases and, while these pay terms do not match these, they will go a long way towards providing real relief to SIPTU members in the public service and provide long-lasting improvements to their pay and conditions of employment,” John King said.

The ICTU Public Service Committee (PSC), which represents all ICTU-affiliated unions with members in the civil and public service, confirmed it has ratified the review of the Building Momentum agreement.

It follows a meeting of the committee this morning to consider the aggregate result of recent ballots by public service unions on the revised public service pay measures. The PSC will formally notify the Government and the Workplace Relations Commission (WRC) today.

Once implemented, the pay deal will see an increase of 3% with effect from 2nd February 2022, 2% from 1st March 2023 and 1.5% or €750 (whichever is greater) from 1st October 2023. This is in addition to 1% or €500, whichever is greater, due at the beginning of October 2022.

A minimum payment of €750 a year from next October means the package would be worth 8% to a worker earning €25,000 a year and 7% to a person on €37,500 a year, according to the ICTU Public Service Committee.

“The Building Momentum agreement is now extended until the end of 2023. When taken in its totality it has, and will continue to, provide real benefits to members’ pay and conditions of employment, as well maintaining protections against the outsourcing of their jobs,” King said in a statement. 

“Given that it has a short time span, it is anticipated that we will be back in negotiations in 2023 for a new public service agreement to commence in January 2024.”

ICTU president and PSC chairman Kevin Callinan said there was a strong showing in favour of the pay deal, which reflected a recognition by workers that these pay measures will be helpful at a critical time.

Callinan added: “Unions do expect to be back in negotiations next year to secure pay terms beyond the lifetime of the current agreement, which will expire at the end of 2023, and unions will of course continue to closely monitor living costs and income pressures.”

All of the affiliated unions taking part in the ballot voted in favour of the proposals. The voting strength of each union is determined by the number of members it has in the civil and public service, and the overall result is calculated through a weighted aggregate of the outcomes of all the union ballots.

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    Mute Martin Forde
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    Oct 7th 2022, 2:30 PM

    Sold out once again by the unions. Trying to cast your vote was like trying to get a seat on the Titanic.

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    Mute padar
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    Oct 7th 2022, 3:08 PM

    @Martin Forde: pull your subs and stop whinging. Or why don’t you get involved with your union and organise for better results. You obviously have all the answers.

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    Mute JG
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    Oct 7th 2022, 3:12 PM

    @Martin Forde: rubbish.. If u didn’t vote. It’s you’re own fault.

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    Mute Jo H
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    Oct 7th 2022, 4:01 PM

    @Martin Forde: I cast my vote with no difficulty whatsoever

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    Oct 7th 2022, 4:44 PM

    @Martin Forde: I was able to vote online no problem. It took less than a minute.

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    Mute Liam Byrne
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    Oct 7th 2022, 5:02 PM

    @Martin Forde:
    Ye should have pushed a few oul wans an kids overboard.

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    Mute TheCraftyCulchie
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    Oct 7th 2022, 6:48 PM

    @Martin Forde: I voted against, it was incredibly easy to cast my vote, I got numerous reminders and explainers on how to do so

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    Mute Kevin Thompson
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    Oct 8th 2022, 5:44 AM

    @Martin Forde: why would you want a seat on the Titanic? The lifeboat would be a better choice

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    Oct 7th 2022, 2:40 PM

    Will be enough to cover the price of leaving the light while using the toilet over Winter..well done

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    Oct 7th 2022, 3:14 PM

    @Clevie Sal: It’s outrageous, they should have given you a 100% increase, a medical card and rent allowance. They probably should have given you a 3 bed social house too since Christmas is coming up, and maybe a penguin bar as icing on the cake. You would still find a way to complain. Probably give out that you didn’t get the full pack of penguin bars

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    Oct 7th 2022, 4:03 PM

    @Tom Jacob: you must be new here Tom?! Welcome to the Journal my man!

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    Mute Martin O Connell
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    Oct 7th 2022, 10:47 PM

    @Tom Jacob: no Tom. Only those that don’t want jobs are entitled to all that. The rest of us must continue to work hard to pay for the poor cret ins.

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    Mute Jim Smith
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    Oct 7th 2022, 4:17 PM

    Correctional addition; ‘that’s a massive pay decrease (relative to inflation)’. In real terms, its a large pay cut in a time when the government has a budget surplus. If we were in the middle of a massive recession I’d be less sympathetic.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 5:46 PM

    @Jim Smith: Yeah it doesn’t look like the Irish economy is in a very good state of this is all they can ‘afford’ for the public sector. Or maybe the Irish government don’t even care for their workers who are critical to the functioning of the state, NeverMind regular citizens.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 6:53 PM

    @Jim Smith: Unfortunate thing is that for most of the employees the govt takes the half if not more back in taxes…… With regard to buying power and covering rising costs its a further hit because of the tax take. For example if inflation goes up by 10% and wages rise by 10%. Gross salary might be 10% higher but net salary is less than 10% higher than the net salary was before the increase. So buying power is reduced further. Salaries need to out pace inflation for buying power to remain the same

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    Oct 7th 2022, 8:04 PM

    @Paul Hedderman: Given the present world economic crisis, expecting salaries to outpace inflation is fantasy. It would be more akin to reality if the Govt and Unions addressed the inefficiencies in the public sector before pumping millions into it, including pay rises not attached to properly implemented productivity agreements

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    Oct 7th 2022, 9:47 PM

    @Barrycelona: Up until this year, salaries have been outpacing inflation for quite a while

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    Oct 7th 2022, 10:47 PM

    @Barrycelona: Did I say anything along the lines of expecting it?!?!…… Just making the point that even if salaries rise on par with inflation, buying power still reduces. Making people aware of the fact which many don’t know…… I’m well aware of the current climate!

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    Oct 8th 2022, 9:30 AM

    @Paul Hedderman: Very true but taxation always seems to be a separate argument. Part of the voter base also thinks that someone anything over 37k a year is part of some upper class. USC is just a convoluted mess but I’ve seen a poll where the options were ‘reduce taxes’ or ‘increase spending’. The vast majority choose ‘increase spending’. One unscientific news paper poll but I don’t doubt that it represents the mood of the majority. We as a country seem to want higher taxation (once it’s somewhat stealthy) and then we fight and beg for funds. In theory, would a couple with kids rather pay 1000 less in taxes or get an 600 euro child care benefit and a free tooth cleaning? I’d bet the latter sadly.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 3:58 PM

    With inflation at 8% this year alone, that’s a massive pay decrease. It could be up to a 10% pay cut across the board if a slowdown or recession doesn’t hit. Harsh on them.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 4:05 PM

    @Jim Smith: it is not a pay decrease, it is completely false/exaggerated to say so. Will it cover all rising costs, no it won’t, but will wages be higher, yes they will so they will help towards rising costs. Will most private sector employees see a 6.5% pay rise in the next 12 months? Like hell they will. I’ll take my 6.5% and be glad and grateful of that bit extra in the full knowledge that I’m lucky to be getting anything extra

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    Oct 7th 2022, 4:34 PM

    @Jo H: It is a pay increase in nominal terms but a pay decrease in real terms. If you don’t know or don’t understand what this means, then you are a precise example of something called the “money illusion”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_illusion?wprov=sfla1

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    Oct 7th 2022, 4:45 PM

    @Kevin Collins: it’s more money in their pay cheque tomorrow than today. Their employer is giving them more money. It’s an increase.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 5:08 PM

    @Kevin Collins: I don’t need a lesson, or to have it implied that I don’t understand thanks. I fully get the concept, but it doesn’t alter the fact that there will be more money in my wages next week than last, and that is a pay rise.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 5:31 PM

    @Jo H: you clearly do not understand the concept. You have just agreed to a pay cut not a payrise. Yes your wages have nominally increased but they will buy you fewer things. Your money is now worth less and thus it is a pay cut. Nominal increase minus inflation = real decrease. To argue otherwise is to demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of what money is.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 5:50 PM

    @Jo H: In nominal terms = pay increase.

    In real terms, your pay in the public sector has been decreasing year-on-year. Therefore it is a salary that has been changed to something in real terms that is less 5 years ago. Also known as a decrease.

    A standard public servant would be better off 5 years ago on their salary then than on this ‘increase’ today. Period.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 6:24 PM

    @Kevin Collins: I do understand. However, I believe that more money in my wages to go toward the rising cost of living is better than not getting an increase in my wages towards it. I don’t think it would have been possible to get a better pay deal and I’m glad to have gotten something versus nothing. A pay rise to out pace the cost of inflation simply will not happen.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 7:35 PM

    @Kevin Collins: if there was no opportunity to get an increase by way of negotiations they would have the same pay tomorrow as they do today. What would you call this?

    Instead they have had an opportunity and agreed 6.5%. This is more money. It is not a negotiated decrease, or an agreement to a pay cut. They’ve lessened the gap between their income and inflation. It’s not closed, but it’s improved , the gap is shrunk. They are better off.

    When there was deflation after the financial crash no one was going around saying they got a pay increase, just like now they don’t say 6.5% more is a decrease.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 7:40 PM

    @Jo H: Of course, we all need extra money but this idea of seeking wage rises that mirror the level of inflation is self-defeatist. Funding a 6.5% pay increase across the public sector has the effect of further reducing already depleted services. Given the mega complaints by the public sector about working conditions or essential personnel not being able to afford accommodation in Dublin or the need for more teachers or nurses, go out the window and clearly show how disingenuous their unions are about creating better working conditions or properly working public services for the rest of us. They refuse to acknowledge their shortcomings which makes it nearly impossible to attach properly implemented productivity agreements to pay rises. If they were more efficient, they could be getting proper pay rises by getting themselves onto a higher pay grade, while the unions create better working conditions or more Govt funding. Given the size of the public service in this country, they are doing themselves the most damage. They are not owed a living by society but need to improve the lot of society.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 7:49 PM

    @Barrycelona: I wasn’t suggesting it should have been more. I was pointing out to other commenters that to say it it a pay decrease is a falsehood, that just because it wasn’t as high as they would have liked or wanted doesn’t make it so. I actually agree with you that increases at a level matching inflation shouldn’t be sought, and furthermore don’t think they would have been successful even if they had

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    Oct 7th 2022, 7:50 PM

    @Paolo Fandango: Exactly!

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    Oct 7th 2022, 8:08 PM

    @Jim Smith: Yes but when the slowdown or recession does hit their jobs will be safe and they’ll have greater purchasing power.

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    Oct 8th 2022, 5:58 AM

    @Jim Smith: public sector are actually getting a 6.6 percent increase. Plus the 1% already due in October , which makes it 7.7% increase from now until next October. The figure in the article above is wrong as 1.01* 1.03*1.02*1.0175 , means a 7.7 % increase. Also factor in 600 energy credits and increase of take home pay due to tax cuts ,especially, if you are getting over 40,000 gross.
    However this won’t cover next years inflation.

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    Oct 8th 2022, 9:29 AM

    @Kevin Thompson: That’s over 2 years so you’d have to double your inflation numbers to compare

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    Oct 8th 2022, 5:44 PM

    @Jo H: It’s not an exaggeration. I’m in the private sector. I go to my paymasters if inflation is rampant and tell them to pay me the new going rate. If they don’t I leave the project and they have to hire my replacement from the market at the higher rate. This is happening in the public sector when staff leave for the private sector. I know because I do contract work for a very large semi private body. Having a skilled and trained worker leave and then be replaced by a higher paid worker from the job market actually costs more for the business/tax payer. It creates more inefficiencies rather than solve them. The semi private body that I currently do contract work for is bleeding staff due to the pay and is hiring contractors at a higher market rate to replace them. It pains me as a tax payer.

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    Oct 8th 2022, 10:22 PM

    @Jim Smith: I’m glad you work in an area that allows you to have that sort of leverage, but the vast majority of workers, particularly private sector do not. I only left the private sector 5 years ago and let me tell you, if I looked for a pay increase to match inflation or I was leaving, I’d have been told not to let the door hit me on the way out! You can’t really believe the average office or retail worker has that sort of power?

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    Oct 7th 2022, 7:03 PM

    Seems reasonable. If you add in what everyone is getting in terms of energy credits (not taxed), plus adjustments to the tax bands in the budget, it’s actually closer to parity with inflation, though not quite there. At least it provides a bit of certainty and allows better financial planning for the next while. There’s also the fact of it being backdates to February, meaning above bit of extra cash for the winter. I don’t really see that there’s room for much of any more to add to this, there is definitely a need to keep a bit of tax revenue in reserve for next year. Could have been a lot worse.

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    Oct 8th 2022, 5:51 PM

    @Michael Garvey: Energy credits are temporary ie once off as far as we know. Gas and bills in general being a lot more expensive seems permanent due to government policies. If living with a working member of the opposite sex, dole is 9 months before you are cut off. The government is creating uncertainty. Perhaps spending a billion a year on fighting Russia was a bad idea with our current hospital and housing crises. 47m to give free school books to children. A billion to fight Russia. It doesn’t add up.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 7:44 PM

    @Jo H: Of course, we all need extra money but this idea of seeking wage rises that mirror the level of inflation is self-defeatist. Funding a 6.5% pay increase across the public sector has the effect of further reducing already depleted services. Given the mega complaints by the public sector about working conditions or essential personnel not being able to afford accommodation in Dublin or the need for more teachers or nurses, go out the window and clearly show how disingenuous their unions are about creating better working conditions or properly working public services for the rest of us. They refuse to acknowledge their shortcomings which makes it nearly impossible to attach properly implemented productivity agreements to pay rises. If they were more efficient, they could be getting proper pay rises by getting themselves onto a higher pay grade, while the unions create better working conditions or more Govt funding. Given the size of the public service in this country, they are doing themselves the most damage. They are not owed a living by society but need to improve the lot of society.

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    Oct 7th 2022, 9:50 PM

    @Barrycelona: I think you might find no increases would lead to a lot of the talent leaving meaning more dead wood and more poor productivity.

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    Oct 8th 2022, 12:07 AM

    I was a siptu member and I found out that siptu give a donation to the workers party out of every members union fees , but u can write to siptu and ask them not to give them anything from your own payment, that’s a fact you can contact them and ask yourself if you don’t believe me

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    Oct 7th 2022, 8:13 PM

    6.5%. Roughly the same percentage increase as the pensioners and disabled.

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    Oct 8th 2022, 8:07 AM

    I got an extra rise .
    Left the union and now have my subs to spend on rent.

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    Oct 9th 2022, 2:55 AM

    Public sector greed again while poor low income families are struggling to pay their bills. This out of touch brigade, are looking for more money. While, a staunch supporter of the union movement in general . Public sector unions are a disgrace and so out of touch with the real world .

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