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38 per cent of JobBridge interns go straight into full-time jobs

Joan Burton says of the 2,364 interns who completed their placements by the middle of last week, 890 went straight to work.

Image: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

JUST UNDER TWO-FIFTHS of people who complete JobBridge internships go directly into full-time positions, social protection minister Joan Burton has said.

The social protection minister has revealed that the of the 2,364 people who had completed JobBridge placements by 14 May, 890 of those had immediately moved into employment, either with their JobBridge host or with another company.

Burton said this figure did not include those who may have secured paid placements in the period after their internship, but who had not found work immediately after their JobBridge placement included.

“A picture of the career paths of JobBridge interns will become clearer following the independent evaluation of the scheme which is being undertaken by Indecon International Economic Consultants,” the minister told Fine Gael backbencher Terence Flanagan.

Separate figures issued by Burton earlier this month showed that a total of 6,840 people had taken up JobBridge placements in the ten months since the programme had begun in July last year.

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Comments (31 Comments)

  • I have a real problem with the job bridge scheme, in theory it’s a great idea but the basic rules are very flawed. Actual jobs could be created instead of these schemes in a lot of cases, but companies are taking advantage of free labour.

    Access to the scheme is also limited or impossible for people with children. There is no provision for a childcare supplement and €50 per week just doesn’t cover it. Childcare places can be provided for people on useless Fas courses but not on JobBridge?

    I could go on…

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    • I’m not trying to defend the scheme because I personally think it has major flaws but it was recently announced that as of the 28th of this month, people getting the one parent family payment will be able to able to go on the Job Bridge scheme.

      http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Press/PressReleases/2012/Pages/pr090512.aspx

      I agree about the childcare places. The gov should really look into proving a childcare supplement along with the allowance. I know some host organisations have childcare facilities but I reckon there’s quite a few companies which don’t.

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  • Barry 23/05/12 #

    The other 62% are doing jobs on Jobbridge that could be proper jobs but the company’s are too cheap to pay the people and instead use and abuse the Jobbridge scheme for free labor. The scheme is flawed and has to many ways of being abused.

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    • That’s the spirit Barry, nearly 40% of people go on to full time employment and you’re still not happy!

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    • Barry 23/05/12 #

      Cliff, frankly its idiotic to ignore the massive abuses this scheme is used for.

      Until either they fix these massive abuses or come up with somebody better then Jobbridge I’m dead right not to be happy and i certainly hope your not happy with how this scheme is abused.

      Its a regular sight to see this scheme being used by shops for shelf stacker and by fast food places just for people to serve the counters, these previously were normal paid jobs that many including students did. Now they are jobbridge “jobs” which the company get people to do for free. This is very much a bad thing!

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    • Once again Barry, only looking at the negatives.

      The abuses exist, but they are the exception not the rule, if you can’t see that then you are willfully ignoring reality.

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    • Last week they reported 75% did not complete their placement. If 25% do and 38% of those get a full-time position, the government has a staggering success rate of 8%.
      In my book, the definition of a half-assed scheme financed by funds stolen from the Tara miners pensions.

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    • Sean – Strictly speaking, that report said only 38% of people finished the full 6/9-month placement. It’s possible that those leaving their programmes early are among those going straight into paid work.

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    • Point taken.

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    • @Gavan
      Sorry to be pedantic about the figures – but there are lots of statistics being bandied round by the Department of Social Protection to advertise the “success” of the scheme.
      My difficullty with your headline today is that it’s slightly misleading. The fact of the matter is that of the 2,364 interns who actually completed the full 6/9 month internship, only 38% of that 2,364 went onto employment. There is still a pretty big gap in the figures regarding the full number of interns who never completed the internship after starting it – and so far this number hasn’t been revealed officially by the Dept. (apart from one report in the Sunday Times a few weeks ago which suggested a dropout rate of 75%).

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    • It would be interesting to find out why the reported 75% left their Job Bridge internships.

      Was it because they found employment? Or didn’t like the the internship? Or other reasons

      Host organisations can also terminate internships so it would be interesting to find out how many have done this.

      I’m not sure that Job Bridge is recording all this data, but think it would be a good idea to get a clearer idea of the success (or failure) of the scheme so far.

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  • Sarah 23/05/12 #

    Last autumn i had an interview for a job bridge internship and i went to it with an open mind. The employer was giving out about Tesco abusing the scheme and a few others who don’t offer relevant experience. So to cut a long story back a two days later i got offered the internship but i said give me a day or so to think over.
    That was ok so i went on facebook and saw they had a page and i went in and had a look, turns out the employer wasn’t entirely honest in the interview he said they might be a good chance of a job at the end of this and this was a nine month intership. Well two women in the company were going on a maternity leave and i was being used as free labour to cover them and there was no chance i was ever being kept on. The rules of Job Bridge are clear an employer cant replace a worker with an unpaid intern but this employer was doing this and this is one of the major problems i have with the program that its not properly policed and the employer even tried to bribe me to take the job with might be some money at the end of the program bull****.
    Well i turned it down and he got angry and even went as far to make threats about getting me knocked off social welfare until i told him that i have proof that he was using me to profit his own company and save money as he was flaunting the rules and the proof was on his facebook page for all to see. That ended that but over all i think Job Bridge is a good idea but it should be no longer than six months long and you should have an independent referee to talk about any concerns are abuses.

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  • And how many of the others simply emigrate?

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  • The spin doctors stayed up all night for this one.

    Little miss can’t do wrong.

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  • Surprised nobody has commented on the state of Joan’s hair in that photograph.

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  • I do not believe her.

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  • Leaving 62% still on the dole . . .

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    • Better than 100% being left on the dole.

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    • True, but how much was spent on these courses and what percentage of those now in employment are in permanent full time positions?

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    • They are not courses. They are placements in companies that give you great experience, similar to going to college except practical gaining practical experience. It’s this or sit on your arse watching Oprah. I know what I’d prefer to do.

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    • You sir are the type of person this country has too many of and unfortunately could do with less of. I have three friends now who have secured full time work from this service. Three good, intelligent workers who have been knocked down so many times they thought their only options were emigration or a rope. Two of them were brought into full time employment before the end of their program by their employer and the other offered a position at the end. It gives good workers who lack a glittering CV a chance to show what they can do and for the most part employers seem to be taking good candidates, creating jobs that wernt previously there, and putting them in these positions. Of course there are always going to be a minority who abuse the system as in any walk of life, such as people who try to turn a rare positive news story into something negative.

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    • Jingles 23/05/12 #

      True that moaning is some peoples default position.
      Jobsbridge is not a course so I’d say compared to FAS training, the costs are small. Although perhaps some extra resources could be applied to the administration of it to help flag some of the attempted abuses by certain employers.

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    • Hi Dave how long u been n jobsbridge as a spin doctor? I don’t believe you

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  • If the figures above are correct then, 8000 finished out of 24000, of these only 2300 got the luxury of a paid job at the end.
    Business got 24000 free workers!
    these programs are a disgrace, they are am anti-tax on business, taking money from the exchequer and using it to pay employers to displace employees with slaves

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  • it does not say what industry these jobs are in or even what area of the country. My guess is the 8%, as SO’K rightly pointed out above, actually emigrated for those full time jobs….Australia maybe?? Would be good to hear from someone who successfully found a full time job as described to believe it at all.

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  • Jobsbridge is theory is a good idea, however it needs to be policed more. I like many others know of employers taking advantage of the programme. I feel sorry for the participant who knows they are completing a job they should be paid for from day one but because of the economy they must put up and shut up. It’s must be soul destroying.

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  • Day dreamer Joan zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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  • ….And the social welfare claimants are doing so well that we are about to cut their payments by 1/3, they too could take a walk on that Job bridge and we can see how many make it over to the other side and how many jump off the edge.

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  • Sarah 23/05/12 #

    some grammar errors there i see sorry…

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  • I think the scheme is great in theory. I would have loved to have had the opportunity to gain relevant experience when I left college rather than spending my days sending out applications for a soul destroying period of time. However employers are using it to exploit people that are desperate to better themselves. If anything, the scheme is putting actual jobs at risk.

    I work in a company with 4 employees. We have taken on an intern that the directors are boasting about trading in every 9 months to get free labour. I have to train up the intern to do my job which I have done because I genuinely want to help them out but I am essentially digging my own grave. Already the directors are visibly resentful of the fact that I am taking a wage when they have someone doing it for free. They would be delighted if I left. Thats one salary they wont have to pay anymore. In addition, every time a staff member has left they have tried to replace them with an intern from the scheme. So even when they have a genuine vacancy they are trying to fill it with an intern.

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