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Bailout for Greece likely to be decided by Monday

Olli Rehn, European Commissioner for Economic and Monetary AFfairs, at a news conference about the Greek bailout earlier this week
Olli Rehn, European Commissioner for Economic and Monetary AFfairs, at a news conference about the Greek bailout earlier this week
Image: AP Photo/Yves Logghe

EUROZONE FINANCE MINISTERS made “substantial” progress on the Greek bailout in a conference call last night and now expect a decision to be taken on the crucial €130 billion bailout by Monday.

During the 3 1/2 hour conference call, finance ministers from across the EU praised the austerity measures agreed by Greek leaders earlier this week.

However ministers also identified additional “consolidation measures” of €325 million to help plug the gap in the country’s finances, which it said will be necessary in order to receive the bailout.

“Further considerations are necessary regarding the specific mechanisms to strength the surveillance of  programme implementation and to ensure that priority is given to debt servicing,” President of the Euro Group Jean-Claude Juncker said in a statement after the conference call.

Juncker said that the eurozone ministers received strong assurances from the leaders of the two coalition parties in Greece’s government.

Last night the Greek finance minister hit out at some eurozone countries, saying that some of the countries don’t want Greece in the eurozone any more.

“We have to tell the Greek people the truth,” said Evangelos Venizelos yesterday. “There are many in the eurozone who don’t want us any more”.

During the call, the Troika presented an analysis on the sustainability of Greece’s public debt.

Juncker said that the ministers expect to have a decision on the bailout within the week.

“On the basis of the elements that are currently on the table… I am confident that the Eurogroup will be able to take all the necessary decisions on Monday 20 February,” he said.

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  • Gerard Murphy 16/02/12 #
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    There are going to be some very interesting (inflammatory) comments coming out of Germany over the next few days by industrialists and CEOs of large companies.
    They will be making a very strong argument for not wasting another euro on Greece.
    Watch this space…..

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    • Niamh Byrne 16/02/12 #
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      Absolutely, the propaganda machine will be working hard. Dread to think that we are next. Good luck to greece. I hope they can at least be proud that they stood up for themselves. Too many people willing to believe and blame them, when in reality it is the same situation for the ordinary greeks as us, a few made a lot of money and destroyed the country and the people are left to repay the unending debt and face years of hardship. When it comes to our time our taoiseach had already sowed the seeds of anti irish sentiment and pointed the blame at or door with his davos statement. I wonder how the fg cheerleaders will defend themselves against the rest of european when people will only believe what they want to believe, the greeks are all a bunch of tax evaders and the irish went mad with greed.

    • Réada Quinn 16/02/12 #
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      Your comment is so sad Niamh. The EU appointed a betrayer for Greece. We elected our betrayer. :-(

    • Neil Kettles 16/02/12 #
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      At least you know where you are with the Germans! It’s the bloody Frogs you’ve to be careful of!

  • Andrew O Sullivan 16/02/12 #
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    I think they should go before they are told to leave..just like us..scrambling to save a flawed currency and by doing so only helping the rich get richer of the back of the working man.

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  • Cpm 16/02/12 #
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    Christ I hope so. It’s getting boring at this stage

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  • matt doyle 16/02/12 #
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    this is not boring but deadly serious.

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  • Jerry Melinn 16/02/12 #
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    It is immaterial whether the bailout is agreed on Monday or not. The EU don’t trust Greece and its politicians, with good reason. Most of the commitments in the previous agreement were not delivered, apart from wage and pension reductions, and a property tax collected via electricity bills. The new memorandum contains Tax Reforms with distinct measures and agreed milestones, which I believe will not be implemented. It is normal practice here to ‘duck and weave’ even after reaching an agreement. If the bailout money is put into an ESCROW account to be disbursed as the milestones are achieved, then it’s only a matter of a short period of time before one or other of the measures is not implemented, the EU pulls the plug and Greece defaults. It’s not ‘in the DNA’ here to adhere to agreements like this – the smoking ban, introduced twice here, is still flaunted everywhere and not monitored. http://melinnakis.blogspot.com/?spref=tw

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  • Ann Illing 16/02/12 #
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    Thats this Monday coming ? Or just a Monday…….this drama is just going on and on and on with the next date for decision being put off and put off………….

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    The EU would rather preach austerity to Greece and have them crippled economically for the next 60 years than allow them to leave, same with any country involved with this project.
    Imagine the scenario where a country leaves and within 5-6 years, free from the shackles of bureaucracy that country begins to see improvement and growth, do you think any right minded sovereign state would not entertain the idea of leaving too?

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  • Dermot Murphy 16/02/12 #
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    Just like putting new deckchairs on the Titanic

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  • Paul O'Keeffe 16/02/12 #
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    They are stalling this to blackmail the Greeks into signing up for decades of ‘austerity’ (you got to love that word!). Of course the machine will win out but good on the Greeks for standing up to the terrorists. If only the Irish had the bottle to do so.

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  • Kevin McCarthy 16/02/12 #
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    Looks like Greece will have no choice either way but to leave. And what next for us?Same path?

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  • Kerry Blake 16/02/12 #
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    Greece might be better off leaving. Would mean they would have control of their own currency and the possibility of becoming more competative. Would be a lot of pain in the short term but at least not for the next 30 odd years as planed by the EU. Cannot see them ever recovering while using the € in truth.

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    The only benefit this euro currency brought to people was not having to change currencies if planning a holiday in Europe, apart from that it has been an unmitigated disaster and it’s only the will and intransigence of a few hundred, maybe thousand politicians and europhiles that’s keeping it alive.

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    • Gary Clowry 16/02/12 #
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      I’m wondering what “unmitigated disaster” did the Euro cause?

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      Read again please – the currency is an unmitigated disaster, when was the last time it reached parity with the closest currency to us and to which we trade heavily too – sterling?
      When we had the punt border towns like my own were thriving as people from the 6 counties flocked south to shop, we exchanged a strong currency which was in it’s infancy to join a big boys club which promised us plenty and delivered nothing.
      I understand your devotion to the euro but it was sold to us wrongly, I proportion some of the blame to westlife – ‘the change is your pocket” they said, yeah change that no shop in the north will take for goods.

  • Mark Rodgers 16/02/12 #
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    Dermot that’s an extraordinary inaccurate comment you make as the Euro is actually the largest currency in the world and with all of the current difficulties it still remains extremely solid from an exchange based valuation perspective.
    If you knew anything about Greece you could easily understand why they are in their present difficulties and causing contagion among other Member States while extracting more and more money on the basis of deception dishonesty and downright lies.
    Let me provide a couple of examples.
    The Greek Government haven’t paid suppliers of critical products to their healthcare system for three years.
    A Greek ambassador while renting his house to a friend of mine refused to provide a receipt.
    Doctor in Greece according to Government statistics do no earn over five thousand Euro a year!
    Lawyers in Greece suffer from the same difficulty.
    Train drivers on the other hand earn one hundred thousand a year and retire at fifty five!
    Is it any wonder that no Member States in the EU trusts Greece.

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      Who said I know nothing about Greece?
      i know enough to concede that their political system was the architects of their own downfall which has strong parallels with our own bent little country but I never equated Greece’s problems with the euro currency, I merely stated that us entering the euro was a mistake which has brought no discernible benefits to the country.
      It went against all sound economic sense that unless our main trading partners adopted the euro we would be sacrificing a strong punt just to join a club.

    • Gary Clowry 16/02/12 #
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      Why would a strong punt be good for our trade? It would make our exports more expensive.
      Main export partners: US 20.52%, Belgium 17.78%, UK 16.31%, Germany 5.66%, France 5.56%, Spain 4.19% (2009). So just from here 33.19% of our exports go to Eurozone countries.

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      Was our exports expensive before the euro?
      No.

      You’re basing your calculations on the present situation referencing the euro v’s the punt, my comment was referenced back to the early and mid nineties when it was advised that the euro would not benefit us as much as our politicians – stroke – ex schoolteachers, farmers and publicans seemed to think it would.
      I know you like to have facts to ignore and but unfortunately I don’t have a link to euro debates circa the maastricht treaty/1992.
      Albert Reynolds sold the amended European Union treaty on the basis that we would get billions of dollars in aid….the only references made to the pending currency union were about how we’d enjoy the same low interest rates as the Germans. There was zero debate on the merits of joining a currency dominated by countries that, combined, accounted for about a third of Ireland’s trade.

      We exercise no control over the euro. Interest rates are determined to suit Germany & France, but the Irish economy does not move in synch with those economies. Ireland’s two largest trading partners are the United States and United Kingdom, both of which are outside the euro.

    • Joe Mc Dermott 16/02/12 #
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      @ gary,, so your saying we export more to the US than the UK. i happen to know that that is complete rubbish,, were are you getting your info from

    • Gary Clowry 17/02/12 #
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      Joe that is data from the CSO for 2009 so it’s far from rubbish.
      http://economic-incentives.blogspot.com/2010/02/trading-partners.html

  • Todo 18/02/12 #
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    There was a young lady who lived in EU She borrowed so much money she didn’t know what to do. She gave it to her kids – who flushed it all down the loo but being little kids sure what else would they do?Then the loan shark he called looking for it back so she sent out little Paddy with his lunch money – taken from his sack.Paddy came back crying saying “he wants to see you ma” but she handed a play purse to his big sister Steph, saying”Tell him you’re me and this is all we have left”. No way said Steph I need you by my side but with a twist of an arm she wound up outside. The other kids went quiet, all trying to hide while an adult realisation hit them all deep down inside. Our kind mom gave us money to buy all our love, but the cow now says we’re all to blame when the going gets though.

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