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Leap card: Daily Luas spend capped, and auto-top-up on the way

The National Transport Authority introduced the cap, and plans to roll it out for Irish Rail and Dublin Bus in the near future.

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IF YOU ARE a regular Luas user, you might be glad to hear that a cap has been put on the amount you can spend while using your Leap card on one day.

The National Transport Authority introduced the cap the week before Christmas, but it flew somewhat under the radar. They plan to advertise it over the coming months, spokesperson Sarah Morris said.

Morris told TheJournal.ie that when the cap was first put in place, it was still cheaper to buy a Luas day ticket, but once Luas prices went up on Monday 7 January for the annual fare increase, the cap became cheaper.

The cap automatically comes into play once you reach €6.40 on one day, so the Leap card user isn’t required to do anything other than tag on and off as usual.

“It has been quite successful,” said Morris.

We believe about 100 people a day are benefiting from it. We will probably be doing some kind of a small ad campaign soon to tell people about it.

Integrated smart card

The next stage in the development of an integrated smart card is to introduce a daily spend cap for Leap cards used on Irish Rail and Dublin Bus. Testing is ongoing at the moment for these.  It is hoped to launch a daily cap for Irish Rail in a matter of weeks. Eventually, the service will be fully integrated.

Another enhancement for Leap card users will be when automatic top-up is introduced. The plan is that users can opt-in to attach their bank account details to the card, so the card will automatically take a selected amount when the balance reaches a certain level. It is hoped this will be introduced in a number of months

“We’re live-testing a load of things at the moment,” said Morris. It is also envisaged that private operators would be invited to enable Leap cards to be used on their vehicles.

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Comments (27 Comments)

  • The real benefit of the leap card will be when there’s a daily cap for use across a combination of Bus/Dart/Luas/Commuter/etc & you buy a Dublin travel pass for all public transport. They’re getting there but the operators seem to be slowing down integration.

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    • Exactly. I have a leap card for the one day a week I need to get a Luas. But I have a 30 day rambler for the bus – because I often have to get 4 buses in a day and the leap card would just be an unmerciful rip off..

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  • Private coach companies already using this service .. You can use Leap on Matthews Coaches from Dundalk on some of their routes..

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  • About time. If Dublin Bus and others want to encourage us to travel on public transport, a daily capping of fares is required just like…pretty much every other capital city in the world

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  • We really need to see the introduction of a sensible zoning and transfer system. At the moment, Dublin Bus use the bizarre stage system, LUAS has 10 different zones (5 red, 5 green) and I’m not sure what Irish Rail use. At the moment, if I use a series of bus journies I get charged for each one.

    Dublin should have, perhaps, 3 travel zones and easy to follow fare structures based on time e.g 90 min or number of zones.

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    • this definitely needs to happen, but it will need a transport authority just for Dublin, like TFL or the MTA, but that will most likely require a directly elected Mayor of Greater Dublin. Less talk and more action in that regard would be appreciated from our government.

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    • Have to say I agree. The worst example I’ve ever seen of this was going to a friends house. I got a 45a there and a 145 back. The duration and length of journey was the same, the route was the same – but the fare was 50c more there than it was back.. And yes – I brought it up with the driver, and the garage in Donnybrook – I was I formed it was because the 45a has different fare stages than the 145.. Still not a good enough excuse if you ask me..

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    • @Tomás M. O’Huigin, I believe there is a Dublin Transportation Office (DTO) a government quango that never raises it head. It was only studying transport planning in college that it was ever mentioned. God only knows what they do there.

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  • This is a great improvement but I miss the days when we paid our fare to a conductor who always seemed to be nursing a hangover but had the balance of a surf champion.

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  • The collect your credit system at the mo is crazy.i am nowhere near any of the top up points.wud have to get a bus in just to do it

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    • You can’t collect a top up on a bus afaik. The ticket machines aren’t networked so have no way of knowing if you have topped up. They can only read the existing credit on the card.

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    • I know brian.exactly my point.would it be beyond modern technology for ur credit to go on ur card once its registered thru website?must be….

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    • Cian, I would suggest it’s not a technological limitation, but rather a political one, with the various interests involved dragging their heels, and standing in the way of progress. The reason Leap has been a disaster is because all of the operators and vested interests involved have been unable to agree on anything. They are slowly getting there though.

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    • Cian – these cards are just a replacement for cash (and can potentially store weekly/monthly/annual tickets). They’re not credit cards. There’s never credit on a credit card – every time you make a transaction on your credit card it has to verified for security and that you actually have the credit available. Leap cards essentially work in reverse, the credit gets put on the card but there has to be a contact point where this information is transferred to the card. It wouldn’t be practical to have a system where the card has to be verified with a central system.

      There should be more points where you can pick up your credit. Somebody suggested that as those real time displays have data connections that there could be some sort of terminal linked to these at stops.

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  • Finally some sort of ticket integration!!! .. And to think, it was only first announced in 1992… Here we have it… Just 21 short years later!! … At this rate, we could have postcodes before 2040!

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  • Brilliant news, leap card rocks!

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  • r fin 10/01/13 #

    If they could sort our faulty tag off machines at DART and Luas stops that would be great too. 3 seperate occassions I’ve been charged the full fare to the terminus when unable to tag-off at a station (Glenegeary, the major culprit!). Then you have to go through the pain of ringing leap to explain your circumstances! Caps are badly needed, Leap will take off once they’re introduced

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  • Well i remember them saying the dublin bus smartcards would be intergrated so a leapcard could hold a 5 day rambler and all the other travel passes…. im still waiting…

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    • Yeah – when it first came out I rang and asked Dublin Bus about rambler tickets / daily caps, I was told that the Ramblers would be phase out last summer and integrated into the leap card..
      As you said, still waiting..

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  • Amazing that a small city like Dublin cannot produce an integrated and capped travel card like London s oyster despite the huge amount of time spent developing this leap thing…..can’t help feeling that a lot of big egos are behind this cards failings and slow roll out

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  • It would be alot better if they put a cap on the leap card for all public transport in the city, not just the luas.

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  • Why can’t we just use the new debit cards? The LEAP card is just another lump of plastic in your wallet that you have to charge up. Why re-invent the wheel?

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