……and then theres Killala Bay and Austria licence. The West sold to highest bidder without benefit for West of Ireland.

You know, Unsalted, how right you are. I have never voted pro-European in my life. I love Europe but it can stay where it is. I am so disappointed that people accepted the hood-winking they got from FF particularly about all these ‘projects’ in these Treaties. They can have the rest of their lives to understand what they signed up for. :-(.

The letters were signed on the 25th Feb seemingly, which would still be legalish steven but good eye all the same.

Ladies and gentlemen I like to introduce that ”Honorable” politician Mr Ray Burke being loaded into a Paddy wagon by the police on corruption charges.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/0124/burker.html

So true…..

Oh I meant ”tax offences”
Sorry Ray

You’re so right, we should climb out of this depression using our skills in servitude and just be grateful for whatever we’re given.

Sean as I see you are the type of citizen that has passively contributed to the issues in our political system. Your outlook, unfortunately is indicative of a national outlook on politics. As you have shown, your view is very narrow concerning matters of national importance because if you were to take things into consideration, if the Oil fields of Corrib were in Irish control the local employment in Belmullet would still exist and you would still have your football pitch! But along with these trinkets ‘we’ would be capable of ceasing our dependance on over priced Arabian Oil to fuel our manufacturing industry, thus boosting our exports and in turn improving our competitiveness, reducing our overall manufacturing costs resulting in an influx of international investment. Also if ‘we’ had the asset of the oil fields ‘we’ would have been able to offset our losses from over dependence on the housing Market and have prevented the loss of our sovereign control to the EU/IMF. So if I had to decide between the shareholders of a giant faceless oil corporation or the citizens of this country receiving the hundreds of millions of euros of profits, I think I would like to see it with the people. Also when you are paying your ESB and Gas bill Sean, just remember, if ‘we’ had corrib you would be paying approx a third of what you currently are, instead of paying a small fortune every 2 months for energy produced from the likes of the burning of coal shipped half way across the world from Jamaica. I hope you enjoy the pitch!

I’d take 600 billion over a football pitch.

oh dear oh dear..

Yes Sean.

But that is only a bit of Chicken feed compared to what Shell are taking out of our country and Economy.

They did not have to have local decent Men and Women and their families beaten like animals.

We have are own expertise and exploration companies these days.

We have the ability to tap these resources for ourselves in a decent humane way.

The Shells and Statoils of the world are staffed by Irish people and will be increasing their Irish staff with more Irish immigrants thanks to soft people like Pat Carey.

@Simon
neutral? i don’t think the film claims to be… besides… politicians would be unwilling to take part in a film project such as this, if that is what you mean by ‘gospel’ (which i assume you is your view of “balance”) … and nor would people who supported the Corrib Gas Project…
do you think the media coverage of this (and other campaigns over the past several years) has been neutral?

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i just spotted this on indymedia via facebook…. enter a competition from Statoil & New Scientist Magazine
All you have to do to enter, is to tell Statoil ‘which engineering project you think will have the greatest impact on human life in the next 30 years, and why,’ in no more than 100 words.
win a trip to the Artic where you could be “taking a trip in a helicopter to the 472-metre-high Troll gas platform. Troll is the tallest structure ever to be built and moved, and one of the largest, most complex engineering projects in history.”

so the idea being… be a troll of sort with entries stating that Corrib will have the “greatest impact on human life in the next 30 years” !!!

of course your entries probably won’t last too long on the site.. but hey.. it’s a protest… and you can do it from your keyboard without ever having to visit north east Mayo!

see here..
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/99121

and here
http://www.newscientist.com/engineeringgreats/

:)

go on go on go on!!

Simon… Shell refused to take part in the film…. because they were not allowed to edit it….!!!!!! They were asked to take part…..

Cop on Daragh, people are well aware of how the markets work, and do you really think shell would take over the corrib fields if they did not believe the venture would be profitable? And you talk about the 2,000 jobs, believe me now that once shell have sucked Corrib dry, every one of those people will be back on the dole queue with everyone else. If ‘we’ were to sustainably use corrib for national consumption ‘we’ would benefit considerably with a cheap relatively clean resource that could sustain those 2,000 jobs for much longer than shell intend. You are easily swayed by media reports that discredit alternative, well founded study.

And to add when you talk about people standing up for the pipeline suffering attack, I think you will see that this occurred on both sides. As you would expect when people on the Pro side having an invested interest and alternatively on the Anti side.

@ Daragh you obviously have not got all the correct information, don’t know how you can say E540 Billion is nonsense…….did you not see The Pipe the Film….. also look up Shell to sea and also You Tube how Shell treated the people of Nigeria when they protested to a pipe being laid on their land, they killed them, in Ireland if they could they would instead they had them Jailed……….I think it is you that needs to cop on…….

No I didn’t see the film. I saw reports saying that a) at the very upper most estimate there may be 1TCM of Natural Gas in TOTAL in Irish territorial waters and b) that the actual CORRIB field that Shell has the rights to accounts for a small fraction of this c) none of this is actually proven – there is a major financial risk in exploring a field that, whatever else you might say Shell has taken on. 90% of the ‘facts’ used by the anti-side are simply wrong.

Finally, people DON’T seem to know how markets work or they’d all realise that E540 Billion is a nonsense figure. The gas is worth precisely how much the person at the other end of the pipe will pay for it. It can’t be stored, it can’t be shipped further afield. Since Ireland is the only realistic customer (unless you can build a pipeline to the continent) its not worth anywhere NEAR that amount.

And the media have jumped up and down against the whole project, especially Fintan O’Toole (who I otherwise admire.)

Daragh
You say the people who ”stood up for the pipe has been subjected to character assassination and in some places actual threats”

Daragh what about the threats to the decent local men and womens safety when they were dragged around the road,beaten with sticks,thrown into drains,attacked with excavators,wrongly thrown in jail, their land trespassed upon,etc etc

Where was Pat Carey then? Having his make up done with Bertie for €454 a throw?

And where was our state funded national broadcaster? Reporting on a corruption story at the other end of the World somewhere?
They could have saved us their travelling expenses by sending a couple of reporters and cameramen down here to cover this Grab?