Accountability should be demanded from a lot more people than Sean Fitzpatrick and Brian Cowen!

@ DisgruntledCitizen & SlapstickIreland

Accountability is not a word that is in their dictionaries! Not only those two should be held accountable, there are many in there, Lowry, Cowan, Fitzpatrick, Harney, Aherne, many many more, yes, also McFeely. Drag him back from the UK, freeze his accounts. Architects, council managers around the country that were short of honesty and accountability.

Until people realise that every party is as corrupt as each other nothing will change, we need to rewrite our whole political system so that it works to serve the people, the way it’s supposed to be. There is no honesty in politicians anymore.

@Sheila
It would take a huge chunk out of our debt if everyone was held accountable and paid for all their crimes over the last decade or so.

we need to rewrite our whole political system so that it works to serve the people, the way it’s supposed to be.

How would you propose to do that? Look what happened to George Lee – pulverised by Enda and Noonan.

Sheila you are only reaching the tip of the corruption in this country ,all that you have mentioned have an army of people to protect them such as the judiciary the media senior civil servants accountants political parties auctioneers foot soldiers on the ground ,people of ireland we have a mafia at work in this country and anybody trying to defend this is part of the mob.

*”people IN glass” houses rather

Why would she know him? She does certainly know of him as Sinn Féin have been to the forefront of the campaign on Priory Hall. Don’t let facts get in the way of a snide childish remark though.

Was my comment removed?

I don’t think Gerry wants to leave, it could split the party up?

It’s funny how you ignore the content of what she said. Attacking her just because she’s SF?

@ Holemaster: No I actually agree with much of what she says in this case. I’m just wondering at her high level of media exposure.

Why Ryan ?
She is a public representative .

She is in a political party and a growing one at that…..what is wrong with that ? I mean the other parties are hardly angels that can do no wrong….also Sinn Fein are the only opposition party because FF and FG are just one cabal nowadays…..you have just described with your comments this new mentality that seems to go after Sinn Fein for being a political party…..pretty sad really because we are supposed to live in a democracy , well that is what they say anyway.

Maybe they can’t find anyone else to make these obvious comments? Did you ever think of that Ryan?

Next question would be: so why can’t they find anyone from FG/Labor etc to make these comments?

Then you’d be getting close.

I think what Ryan is trying to do is sow a seed in people’s minds that there is discontent within the ranks of SF. I think the average reader on this site would be intelligent enough to see FF trickery when it appears.
I have no allegiance to any party, but I as can others really see the fear among FF and Labour supporters about the growing rise of SF. Instead of talking about there own policies and acknowledging their own failures, they spend their time obsessing about SF while SF get on with building themselves and their base up.To be fair to SF, people believe they know clearly what they stand for and in turn they appear credible to more and more people. I’m not sure that it’s easy for the public to see what the other parties stand for other than saving themselves. I’m excluding FG from the above, as it is quite obvious that FG have mostly only the very wealthiest of our society in mind when deciding policy and they have always had an air of West Britishness/anti irishness about them that easily defines them.

…..Maybe too close ! Shame on them. It is like when we were all sitting watching Pee Flynn on the Late Late Show THAT night and we ”knew” that he was crooked , but did we dare say anything ? Like heck we did , we knew we had no proof , but now we aqre proven right. Here we are with DDDA , busted / broken, millions in debt but who is responsible ? Some one some where knows something …

I’ve news for ye lads. Ryan is Fine Gael. But it’s good to see that even Fine Gael feel threatened.

And it’s great to see Mary Lou out in front of a mike and on our TV screens. Not for her a special Speech to the Nation address with a teleprompter. Ye save that for Enda doncha Ryan.

Too bad more people are not speaking out about the DDDA debacle. We are all paying dearly because of the reckless decisions made by a few individuals. Looking forward to hearing a lot more from Mary Lou – and John McGuinness!!

Grow up Ryan.. Nothing substantial out of that silly comment!

Lots of responses…

@ Susie: Last night on the Week in Politics, Mary Lou was talking about the talent in SF, yet as I’ve pointed out above she seems to be dominating SF’s appearances in the media. Why not let some of her colleagues get some exposure and build their profiles? And I note you still haven’t backed up the assertions you made on a separate thread earlier re your account being hacked. More trolling it seems as you seem unable to back up your hysterical claims.

@ Johnnathan: I never said anything about it being bad that she is in a political party. I respect people who get involved in politics, particularly given the amount of abuse they get – in public and on internet sites like these where anonymous people can make up all sorts of lies purely out of spite without being called out on these lies. If these lies were said on television, in a newspaper or on the radio then a lawsuit would likely follow.

@ censored: Maybe nobody else could get to a microphone as Mary Lou was in the way? ;-)

@ limofax: Darn, you’ve seen through my cunning plan to cause a schism in SF. Although I suppose the heaves in FG and Labour that I’ve read about elsewhere on this site are both likely to go ahead? Oh and yourself and Réada may wish to make up your minds. You say I’m FF and she says FG.

@ Réada: Clearly you seem to struggle with the fact that I’m not a member of FG. I’ve told you this on many occasions yet you seem to enjoy trolling my comments with your inaccurate claims. As I’ve said before I voted Green in 2007 and Independent in 2011. Further down there were preferences for both FG and Labour, however neither received a first (or even second) preference. And before you ask, no I don’t take photos of my ballot paper unlike some! ;)

@ Maureen: I agree, I look forward to hearing ALL parties comment on and then investigate the shambles in the DDDA. There are definite conflicts on interests in the deal. Unfortunately being bad at your job is not a crime.

@ Joan: I would think it’s substantial that one member of SF is dominating their media appearances so much. Pearse Doherty and Péader Tobin have had reason to be quiet recently, but what about other TDs? They’ve 14 after all and three Senators. On the couple of occasions I’ve seen them, the likes of Kathryn Reilly and Padraig McLochlainn have made some good (and bad) points but they are rarely seen for major appearances.

Anyway, I’m not going elsewhere for a while. I’ll still read and support the Journal, but in terms of *debate* this site is very poor. Politics.ie and boards.ie are better alternatives I think. Personal attacks, misinformation, trolling and casual xenophobia (see any thread which mentions Germany or foreigners in general) seem to be more common than any kind of debate – with the exception of a few of course (Mike Hall and Sean O’Keefe spring to mind although I don’t always agree with either!).

Don’t forget to search on Twitter for #positiveireland by the way. As I’ve said before, reading that feed might cheer a few of you up rather than reading the comments here.

Take care!

Ryan. I’m going to miss you. You were always my fav right winger. You never resorted to personal attacks or name calling.

I’m bitterly disappointed however you didn’t include me in your non-xenophobic list. I haven’t used any anti-German language and have kept my eye on the ball. The enemy here is big business and big money doesn’t care about flag colours or national allegiances. I do however recognise that Germany is taking a lead in EU and their economy seems to be faring well through this crises. But good luck Ryan. You were always reasonable. :-)

Sorry Ryan! Judging from the tone/content/misinformation of your posts I thought that you were a FF or FG member. My mistake, I must have been thinking of your other twitter account!!!
As for your “cunning” plan, don’t get carried away the use of the word “cunning”, you over estimate yourself. But it’d be nice if you stuck to debating facts as opposed to sowing seeds. Most of all, take care of “yourself”.

@ Ryan Allen
I am far from being hysterical , but you know what I don’t have to prove anything to you, but it was,and the journal know this too, so there. Maybe you should take a break , because you are the one who seems hysterical . Don’t let the door hit you on the arse as you leave, in fact don’t go , you’re great fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwGC9EKhPvw

Smarmy sexist and dismissive of a person just because she is a woman!. You aren’t Micheal Martin by any chance. Are you roaring and shouting at the screen as you talk.

Fagan’s don’t mind McBab its just snide comments and namecalling all the way with McBab.Intelligent comments is beyond his/her capabilities.

No surprise there, you also have the charisma of a damp rag, and I wouldn’t be too surprised if you have the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk.