I hear you’re a racist now father

BTW. It actually is not racist to call someone black.Never has been and from the people I know in school who were frustrated with being called everything from “members of the African community” “Coloured people” “African American” .They quite simply said.Our colour is not an issue.We are black you are white.
The Census asks people are they black.
Irish people have a bit of a hang up over the word.But its actually the correct word to use. Now that goes without saying tone of voice and context have a huge part to play too.

I think it is part of the African culture to be quite aggressive when dealing with people. I have experienced it myself.

It is a clash of cultures and I think some of the African community need to learn that it is generally not how we act when dealing with people, especially when the person in question is often trying to help you.

I don’t think the above is in anyway racist, it is just an observation I have noticed of many (not all) africans in Ireland.

until recently i was working in a customer service job close to the nigerian embassy. all my coworkers hated working the day shift due to the constant abuse from nigerians, particularly towards female staff. they seemed to be fine with me maybe because im an older male but the way they treated women and younger men was disgraceful. we dealt with many other africans, kenyans, zimbabweans etc and you couldnt meet nicer people but for some reason a lot of nigerians have an aggressive attitude.

I know a number people with very similar experiences. Many Nigerians in particular can be very aggressive and often play the race card when they don’t get what they want so his attitude is understandable ****to a point****. But as a public representative his job is to represent all the public, not cherry pick who he wants to deal with. That’s what he’s paid to do and if he doesn’t want to do it he should resign.

Interesting that it takes something like this to cause people to start screaming about racism. Less than five miles from Naas in Newbridge there is a building that is supposed to be a hotel and has been housing asylum seekers and black Africans for almost a decade. The owners were getting in the region of 15-20k per week at one stage for this accommodation (don’t know what the figure is now). These centres are all over the country and are creating institutionalised racism, a them and us scenario. So, if all you racism haters really hate it get on to your local Labour and FG TD and ask them why the taxpayer is paying lots of millions a year to create a segregated black and white future. The end.

I think he is expressing his frustrations at the attitude and the violence aimed at him from that specific community in his personal dealings, nowhere did he say he believed them to be a lesser race or less entitled to some form representation because of race, I think this country is infected with political correctness and if life were oh so ideal sure wouldn’t it be grand.

I have worked with and seen exactly what the guy is talking about and had the race card thrown at me a few times. In my opinion, anybody who treats a person with aggressiveness and a lack of respect regardless of race should have their chance of representation cut off.

I know if I tried to abuse someone genuinely trying to help me that I would expect sanction of some form, the truth is the culture of some foreign nationals living here means they are very quick to take to violence and abuse and yes we should respect cultural differences but why should they not look at our culture which is generally led with respect and manners? We Irish blame ourselves for this a lot why not ask someone who would come here as a refugee/asylum seeker to behave better and show more respect? Is that so Alien a concept?

I don’t condone what he said but it is ridiculous that the only time the issue of immigration is ever discussed is when something like this happens.

The picture above is f***ing gift!!

“You think I’m passing it to you?? You seen the movie, ‘White Men Can’t Jump’??

Darren Scully is entitled to his own opinions even though I don’t agree with them, I would prefer someone to be open about how he feels he has been treated by a section of his community rather than being politically correct in public while pushing a different agenda behind closed doors…….

Stupid comments by the Councillor – he should have highlighted the abuse by stating that he was having difficulties with certain individuals from the black community – but tarring them all with the one brush is plainly stupid.

I have met many individuals from the black community and there certainly is a huge range of personalities amongst them, no different to the Irish. I have met the most polite characters and also met some of the “entitled to everything” ignorant types.

The immigrant community (if they don’t already) should really be made attend induction classes – just like the ones the Irish in Toronto attend (as shown on RTEs “Arrivals” program last night)

Funnily enough I had a few instances of “reverse” racism when in Spain. You were treated rather coldly by the locals until they found out I was Irish… the Spanish locals detest the English and their whole attitude to me changed upon donning the green jersey!!!

The Irish though, still get stick… ask anyone working in Poland at the moment what it is like there… terrible stuff altogether.

If I could get a free house and benefits in Africa I’d be there faster than usain bolts

Ok. I think He should not have said what he said.
Firstly I know many “black” Africans who are lovely people.
I am studying Intercultural Studies as a module in Sociology and 2 weeks ago we had a solicitor in from NASC. A lovely woman.A volunteer. She said numerous times she’s been called a racist. This brought a chuckle to the room,As there is a general feeling the race card is thrown around all too much by generally well meaning people who really don’t know what they are talking about.She also said numerous times men seeking legal advice have some times belittled her opinion due to her being a woman.
I think the second issue is do we want an Intercultural country or a multicultural country. ??
Thirdly. While I was in holidays in South Africa a few years back before we had large scale immigration.I remember black south Africans speaking very negatively about one group of immigrants. South Africa has alot of Somali,Congolese and 5 million illegal Zimbabweans. Yet I never heard complaints about them.It was Nigerians.
I went to school with Nigerians ,Who used to say that shouting was part of the Nigerian way when they were angry,but our teachers would not accept it.Their attitude is in Ireland. We don’t shout at each other.If you do.its intimidation,Which is unacceptable, So do we actually come out and say. Shouting at people is unacceptable behaviour in Ireland, Do we as a society say.People who come here.While they are free to have their culture and religion ,must realise certain things and actions are culturally offensive to the Irish and we have a right to ask them not to behave as such.
I was unemployed and have seen Nigerians abuse staff in the Community Welfare Office. It seems to be when they are frustrated.There is an over reaction to cause a scene.
I am not sure many Irish know what racism really and truely is. I have lived abroad and been a victim of racism .I have been a victim of sectarianism in this country too. Its vile and disgusting and makes one feel very angry ,but while abroad I accepted cultures and accepted, My way was not there way, So I adapted and could find a middle ground. Is it too much to ask for the same here.

I don’t think he can state all black africans are rude.I know the nicest black Zimbabweans and Kenyans. I have fantasticly kind Rwanadan neighbours who have lived here for 2 decades, but too often other africans here are lumped in together and everyone presumes they are all Nigerians.

I know this will offend the PC brigade but I am trying to be fair.Its a two way street and there are two sides to every story. How about we ask people Nigerians along with everyone,To realise shouting is unacceptable ,be that cultural or genuine frustration.

So what do you do if a particular group of people are consistantly rude and aggressive towards you. Drunks are not tolerated in hospital if they are rude, offensive or aggressive towards the medical staff and the hospital will refuse to treat them. I would like to see more criticism of the people behaving like this.

He is damn right. I stopped working with Irish in London and things became a lot better for me.

Pair of you, listen to yourselves…

I have just put a full podcast of the complete interview with Darren Scully from last night’s show (almost 2 hours long) up on the show’s page at http://4fm.ie/lateshow

There is an issue with to the democratic process here. Scully is an elected Councillor & as such has both a moral & ethical responsibility to represent ALL his constituents. If he finds he cannot do that there is only one honourable course open to him!

I wonder is the fact that Ó Riordáin reported Scully to the Gardaí, as opposed to anyone else, or even someone from Naas, a hint of a fissure appearing in the coalition?

I can fully understand Scully’s decision to distance himself from those playing the racist card. I experienced the same aggression and intimidation from those wanting more than they were entitled to..”is it because I am black that you will not give me this ?”. As for demands for his resignation, Conor Lenihan didn’t see the need to do so following his comments regarding Turkish construction workers !!

Would you all have the same reaction if he made comments about Travellers? Only saying ..

The kid in the photo is not playing ball with him or Enda, even he knows he’s a racist

Darren Scully for Taosaigh

Another example of the High Intellect of our current bunch of Elected Representatives.
If you are a representative of the People – then you represent ALL the people.
If you don’t want to do that – well then go get yourself another job.

I think Darren Scully is right.
He does not have to take abuse from anyone.

He has arrived at this point from his experience, which is real for him.

He speaks his mind and is not afraid to say what many think.

I live in Kildare and know what it is like down here in shops and taxis.

The only thing Darren has done wrong is to articulate his views publicly.

while I don’t agree with his cooments blanking of a section of his community – the man has a valid point. He is entitled to work in a safe environment without agression or the race card being thrown at him. No doubt the bleeding heart brigade will take up a his rejection of Africans rather than their treatment of him. If he feel unfairly treated by a section of the community then he should be able to voice that without the rabble honking and tooting for his head.

You should see the unbelievably racist comments on breakingnews. I don’t know why I torture myself looking at them! The difference in the type of people commenting is very evident. There are so many “good for him” comments. Scary.

I think he should definitely resign. Can authority figures in this country embarrass us anymore? A person in his position should have the ability to handle all people of all ages, sex and race. Even if he has experienced rudeness in the past, so what? Most of us working with people on a daily basis come in contact with all types of personalities but you stay professional and use your expertise to resolve issues. Not only is this an example of him being racist but it also highlights his inability to do his job. He is like a child moaning that his sums are “too hard” and asking someone else to do them for him! Suck it up Darren, yeah it’s not easy – that’s why they call it a job!

I feel sorry for those poor black africans not because they won’t be represented by this fool ( unless you earn over 100,000 your not going to be represented by FG anyway) I feel sorry for them because they ended ip in Naas. What a kip

What about white Africans, or slightly tanned africans from Libya and the likes, will he still be representing them?

Im sure all the many Irish born ”blacks” are relieved as he has stated it’s just Black Africans he will be shunning.

“I have been met with aggressiveness, I have been met with bad manners” – well boo hoo. He’s a public representative. And after their next budget, continuity Fianna Fail better get used to it.

Can I just say I love the photograph with this article? Well done Journal.ie.

His personal frustrations from experience was obvious, but personal frustration as a public representative is not part of what is allowed. His ability to retain a public role with what is expected may be overstretched by his personal misgivings for the job. Finding a prejudice is very easy to do in this time but finding out your human can be very difficult to do in public. Mistakes are often opportunities for change.

Every public representative represents his or her constituents, ALL of them, whether they have the vote or not (since many non-nationals cannot vote). What fool would decide not to represent a certain race in reaction to accusations of racism? Ludicrous, Ó Riordáin is perfectly right to report it and Scully should be removed from office.

Scully is a twat at the best of times. Loves to be controversial. Trued to ban Oxygen festival some times back. This case however will be blown out of all proportion.

You know what he’s dead right with the comments he made, those Africans have the country fleeced, they have every benifit you would care to mention. They are laughing at us in this country, we tax and cut our own people while these fraudsters sit back and indulge in the handouts which the the government are only too happy give them for fear of reprisal from some of the do gooders we have here. I’m far from racist but I have seen how these people operate, it’s no wonder that the Irish people are now suffering and having to leave their homeland, that mayor might be a clown but he said aloud what most of us are thinking, well done

Ah sure, colour is a very intelligent way to make reasonable judgements about things, so it is! I mean everyone knows green cars, houses and clothes (for example) are better because of their colour, what not use the same brilliant farking logic when it comes to people?

And I am sure he didn’t make anyone angry or frustrated with him when they had to deal with him because he was a racist to start with, and so treated them with condescension and lack of respect, oh no, it’s all their fault! Oh, and he’s only discriminating against black Africans, so white ones would be OK? Some representative of the people, he’d have loved apartheid.

Darren Scully is totally correct in what he said, promote the guy make him minister for immigration…

Under the Incitement To Hatred Act 1989 it would seem that Mr. Scully has only successfully incited hatred towards the himself and not towards the Africans he referred to. I doubt he’ll press charges against himself.

In the words of alan partridge…Ya daft racist!

thtas what they get for not passing the ball to enda see pic (sorry I couldnt resist).

What is it with Fine Gael mayors? The last two mayors of Limerick Jim Long and Kevin Kiely are idiots as well, and none too shy about getting stuck into ethnic minorities either. Isn’t it quite ironic that Daren Scully responds to accusations that he will not help black people by declaring he won’t help black people. Twit. Although in fairness he said africans rather then balck people so presumably whites from Zimbabwe and South Africa, and Arabs from Libya, the Sudan, Egypt and Tunisia shouldn’t expect any representation from the mayor if they choose to move to Naas.

At last someone with the guts to stand up to the PC brigade. Bravo. You want to know what racism was like? Speak to a black man or woman who lived in Alabama in the 50s or in 1970s south Africa, now that’s what I call racism, Vol 1!!

Don’t you have homework to do?

Nice distraction from the budget.

Having lived in this incredibly backward and narrow-minded town for over ten years, this hardly surprises me. It’s incredible to think that in this day and age a politician would ever say such appalling things on live radio, and honestly thing there was nothing wrong with it.
What sort of an example is he setting? Naas has a large number of immigrants in it’s community, I used to feel incredibly sorry for them. I came ALL the way from Dublin and got abused for this. Many are shunned and treated as outsiders, and I’m sure this is popular of many towns around Ireland. But to have the Mayor refer to them as “black Africans” is outrageous. And where else are they meant to go when they have a problem? If the ignorance continued then there will be a massive divide within the community, and this never has a positive outcome.

Darren Scully is a racist. Sorry if this makes him sad.

This is hardly the first racist comment from a Fine Gael politician. There is an extreme right wing emerging with the Fine Gael Party.

”I wonder what roll the church is takin Father, cause I couldnt devote meself full time to the ol racism, durin’ the day I do the farm work and at night I just like a nice cuppa tae!

Labour TD Aodhan O’Riordain is reporting Darren Scully to the Guards, what blatant opportunism!

I disagree with what Scully has said but he has every right to say it and he shouldn’t be prosecuted for saying what he believes.

Word Fail. Fine Gael.

Come on now, just reaction from labour? Hardly gonna be newsworthy. What did his fellow FG councillors have to say? Save their skins, stand in unity or hide behind the investigation?

Thank god for fools like Darren Scully. It takes men like him to get us talking. “All that it takes for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing”

What an ignorant tosser! Ignore the fact that what he’s doing is one of the most racist actions ever taken by an Irish politician for a moment. Who does he think he is, picking and choosing who he represents?

@Donald: fantastic point.

sorry didnt realize it wasnt visible, it say’s looters will be killed. Its a pic of some old buck after the New Orleans floods protecting his property. Maybe i am racist id like to think im not because i genuinely have massive time for most ethnic groups in work and socially i have to be honest tho i just cant deal with Nigerians. I didn’t mean to get up peoples backs but its just my opinion.

emmm, Randy, this racist FG git tated clearly on Radio that he did not want to represent ANYONE with an African background. How on earth can you not call this Racism .. and excuse the pun, the issue is ‘Black and White’. Either FG kick this guy out of their party, or they are sending a very clear message to the people that FG are the Irish equivalent of the BNP.

Ironic how he’s wearing a blueshirt in that photo then.

I think #darrenscully should be commended for his stance.Kudos to him he is only saying what we are all thinking.And as for the way Africans drive there untaxed/uninsured cars…don’t get me started.

Heard him on the radio last night. Properly disgusting individual.

Irish people are idiots. Black Africans. Is to broad a term. Africa is huge. Irish people assume that if your black your African. Then your dodgy. The truth is, colour is irrelevant. It has far more for to do with where you are from, and your background.
Talking about Nigeria. A black Zimbabwean whom I lived with did not trust nigerians. There not all dodgy but a lot of dodgy people come from there. It’s just so happens there black.

Imagine if all the travellers some how got displaced to Nigeria. Would the Nigerians be right by saying all Irish white people are dodgy and not to be trusted.

There are far to many dumb ass racists on this thread. You need to grow up and embrace multicultural Ireland. As its the future.

Would you all have the same reaction if he made comments about Travellers? Only saying ..

Looks like the spirit of Eoin O’Duffy is alive and well in FG.

Huh, so, this is the type of person that gets to be a mayor. Says alot.

The problem here is that he doesn’t realise he is racist and judging by some of the comments and the red thumbs I suspect he isn’t the only one.

Ok the man is an idiot . If he has problems dealing with a certain group in his community then get practical help -like an interpreter . He should just resign .

As these Nigerians you dealt with we’re all different people and therefore have different attitudes and manners, the only common denominator in your bad dealings was you. Possibly your attitude got their backs up.

Even the obnoxious Nick Griffin from the fascist British National Party chooses his words more carefully. Mr Scully holds a public office and it is incumbent on him to deal with any member of the public who seeks a meeting with him. Regardless of race, colour, religion, gender,sexual orientation etc . . . . If he cannot fulfil that duty he must be removed. Any public official who finds a member of the public abusive, as he claims some people have been, has a procedure for dealing with that. And I very much doubt the guidelines include the dismissal of entire sections of the community. Goodbye, Mr Scully, please close the door behind you.

Racism is a cancer and must be cut out immediately. Whilst he cannot be deprived of his seat he can be forced out of his mayoralty.

I witnessed and experienced, at first hand, Anti-Irish racism in London in the fifties and find it distressing that over half a century later the same thing is happening in Ireland. Have we learnt nothing?

Completely unacceptable and quite possibly illegal behaviour. As a public representative, he has a duty to represent everyone and his blanket comdemnation of all Africans in the town is the very definition of racism.

He has the right to refuse to deal with individuals who are aggressive but not to discriminate against a class of people on grounds of race.

FG as a party also has work to do on that whole “inclusive” thing. This is the party after all that had as its equality (!) spokesperson a woman who supports discrimination against gay people and they continue to oppose marriage equality. There have also been bigoted outbursts against Travellers among FG representatives over the years.

Just to point out as well – Mr Scully is no lowly Cllr and has been a Dail candidate for FG on more than one occasion.

Would they ‘have to feel inferior’ because of their skin colour? It’s not about skin colour it’s about manners and showing a sense of gratitude. This is what irks the said councillor.

A public representative is someone who is elected by the public. Is the Mayor of Naas elected by the public?

Theyre all feckin racists anyway!!!! In the rich people verses the poor people sense!!! Shower of idiots!!

FG not being a party to give a toss about minorities is hardly news.

The real issue here is Ciara Conway having gone and mothered a whole new generation of Irish people. If they all grow up to be Labour voters then bang goes my hopes of seeing a left-wing Irish government in my lifetime.

I do hope all the people he has disenfranchised make it to the poll booth the next time and show Scully the door.

Enda you need to ask this guy to leave the party post haste. He needs to give up his seat on the council, he has no mandate as he has openly stated he will not represent ALL of the people.

He’s a sad man. If people annoy you it’s because they are annoying or you don’t have the skills to deal with them. Their colour or race has nothing to do with it. He can say some of my constituents annoy me and I find it hard to deal with them but to say black or white people annoy me is just stupid. Maybe he’s not up to the job or he has some personal issues he needs to deal with. Hating him though makes us no better. He is to be pitied really and maybe he needs to re consider his career options.

Amazing to see all the closet racists in Ireland with all the red thumbs. Stop being cowards and actually voice your opinion rather than thumbing down anyone who rightfully labels this eejit a racist.

Derry you are more than a bit lost in this discussion and it seems way over your head you should not try to comment as you seem to know very little if anything at all

The race card has been so over used here now we the Irish are been racially abused on a daily basis

re Peter Kavanagh comment

Mayor Scully for once said exactly what Irish citizens are all feeling and wanted all our spineless politicians to say 3 years ago we are now been racially abused by Nigerians on a daily basis that race card was well and truly worn out by them they are a totally aggressive race of people you are what is know as a “Do Gooder” who actually does more harm than good and they use people like you to further their grip on all our welfare systems etc.

Grow up and smell whats around you Ireland has way to many non nationals for a country of our size and population it has nothing to do with multicultural we are all for professional types and official people being here
but we have been taken over and they still coming in with no passports and for a country that has no direct flight routes to or from Nigeria that means that the majority should all be deported as they had to seek asylum in the first country they hand which could not have been Ireland …… Holy god when are people like you going to wake up Ireland is on its knees we need to back to basics close our borders and stop been the social welfare haven for all Nigerians etc .

This guy needs to understand that people have different cultures and upbringing. In Nigerian culture if you are not being loud they think you have something to hide. If people are aggressive with him perhaps he needs to do his job representing them better or consider an alternative career.

My neighbor in the apartment above me is Nigerian and rather than getting my back up that I could hear all his conversations I learned a little about his culture. A little cultural awareness training for certain politicians may be in order.

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I agree! I had to stop using breakingnews.ie because of the utter frustration of some of the comments. Convinced it was knocking years off my life!

that’s a stupid comment inflated out of all proportion. probably you’ve had one such conversation and you’re generalising a huge country from it. Different countries have different cultures, you got to tune in to the vibe.

Happy to see that Darren Scully has done the right thing and stepped down. A mayor has to represent all the people, not just the ones he views as worthy.

“Damn”, thinks Scully to himself. “Enda must be one of those cultural marxists”.

Terrible! I hope he steps down. Imagine children hearing comments like that and having to feel inferior because of their skin colour. What an ignorant man!

Whatever his alleged experiences of Black Africans, his subsequent reaction to the situation demonstrates he is not equipped to deal with equality & inclusivity as the job requires. For that reason his position is at best untenable & at worst incompetent. His comments & anger do point to some degree of racism. Make him explain himself fully publicly so the public can make a fully informed opinion. Looking forward to the FG spin 2 explain this.

What a total dickwad. Just goes to show you how stupid some politicians can be. How on earth can someone claim they are not racist when they tar an entire race like this? There are legitimate questions about immigration such as the rise of Islamism. But this is a life style choice which can be judged. But to say you wont speak to someone from the Middle East because you dont agree with Islamism would be entirely racist prejudiced and bigotted. Likewise tarring all Africans with the same brush is both inexcusable and idiotic.

How is it a broad brush if his experience is that the black Africans he has encountered in general as a rule, behaved aggressively to him. That would indicate that rather than it just being a few people from a certain region within Nigeria, it was people from more than just Nigeria.

In the words of Russell Brand “‘People are like Penguin bars different colour wrappers but all the same underneath”‘ so don’t ”pi pi pi pi pi pi pick up a prejudice”!!

Personally i dont see how any Irish person can whinge about immigration seeing as its what we always used to do before the Celtic Tiger and are doing now after it- hypocrites

This comment is blatantly racist and I’ve reported it.

At least all this debate about racism has taken our minds from the intended cut in children’s allowance and the extra 2% vat and the closing of army barracks etc., etc ., I think it was a rather stupid comment on this mans part so he should resign his seat .

It would useful if the Mayor put forward his statistics. How many have been rude? How many have not been rude? How many ‘Irish’ have been rude? It is worth bearing in mind that many people approaching a public representative are under some strain, experiencing some dissatisfaction, etc. Threatening to not meet constituents, a blanket ban, is totally high handed. That been said we need to move away the PC position that no generalisation can ever be made, and the extreme position ‘let’s make generalisations all over the place’. There are groups, ethnic groups, that engage activity that if not quite illegal, is not quite legal. Not all of them but certainly not few. Maybe Aidan TD could turn his mind to these issues. Or better still the budget.

I label thee a foghorn empty vessel – how’s that?

Randy, what word is over “…will be killed” in ur pic? I had to ask!!! LOL… I admire your honesty, even if it does “upset” some people, it doesnt “upset” me!!!

Well said Tony,spineless lot running this country!

Tom I completely understand that. I am not supporting the mayor in this at all. My comment was more in support of those talking about Nigerian’s

Having been elected to to be mayor for the whole community he cannot pick and choose who he is going to deal with. Delegating the job to his staff is just like saying he will only deal with business he finds pleasant and the rest he will foist on his employees. What a self-serving, irrational little baby this guy is.

Having said that, it is ridiculous that towns like his are even dealing with these problems with Africans. Letting Ireland become a country of immigrants is an huge mistake. Ireland is not America or a former colonial power like England. There is a natural logic for large scale immigration in those countries. Ireland is a very small homeland for the Irish people and has no imperative to alter itself so radically by immigration.