Now this will be an interesting comment war

He’ll have a hard time getting a taxi home after a night out after this…

this man tries to address a problem he percieves is present and now is forced to resign. This situation he sees steming from africa is correct as i see it. Some african countries appear to speak fluent english just like us as a leftover of colonialism. People from other continents dont. So these people are able to represent themselves, whereas people from other continents need a translator. How is this racist. It is a fact. So now the next mayor will know to keep his gob shut and his hands in his pocket. Ireland loses.

I think if you look through the red and green thumbs up,the majority of people feel there is a problem here. Now either the problem is were racist or genuinely these people are coming here pleading asylum or claiming to be trafficked just because were a soft touch. And first of all we are a soft touch. Our borders or laws aren’t protecting us enough. We are victims of our own success. Willing to throw cash at any fool who entered the country through the boom, willing to give them a house, willing to subsidise the rent, willing to give them medical cards, willing to give them anything just because we could!If I went to america in the morning, I would be given sweet FA and it’s the same in any known country I know of, or else the welfare would be a huge amount less(for example up north in our own country)!I would also be removed quite quickly from that country, as numerous irish people have been down through the years. Now it’s very simple, we can’t afford to pay for people who are coming here to be a burden in the most debt ridden country in the world. Time for realism, were broke, everything is on the table to save this country from financial ruin.

Darren Scully shot his mouth without thinking. Regardless of race we are too tolerant of people in general who see themselves And their family “entitled” to payment from birth to death without raising a hand to seek a days work. Politicians such as Roddy Molloy, Princes Bertie, Brian, Ivor and John O’Donohue to name just a few took us for a ride and we deserve it, we voted them to office. One half of our population pays for the other half and sooner or later the bubble will burst.

I don’t think its disturbing if there’s a poll result that shows agreement with his comments. With regard to the mention of the woman complaining about the size of the house from my personal experience I would find that to be an accurate representation of the people of African desecent that ive met and dealt with. Don’t call me rascist though. I’m just calling a spade a spade!

Eh… what? :-s

This is a load of shit. Race is just another excuse to control our freedom of speech. Even I don’t see these comments as blatant racist. It’s frustration.I have had people use the race & discrimination card on me on a few occasions but instead of playing on it I just point out that colour or ethnic status mean nothing to me and that my problem is with the person hiding behind it. If a White person commits a crime against a person of another race,no matter what the reason it’s called a hate crime. It’s time to get this out in the open so that we can move on as a society. Not everyone is racist.

Why did the journal deletemy comment. I said the man was dead right in what he said, wake up Ireland.

Does the Journal have a problem with freedom of speech???

Darren said it as he honestly sees the situation fair play to him for having the courage (balls) to stand out and say in public what an awful lot of people are saying behind closed doors. We need more politicians of this calibre.

The comment was a copy and paste from a member if Naas town council this eve on Facebook. To edit the comments and correct their spelling would have not been quoting them correctly. Thanks to all the eager beaver spotters to which this country owes a debt of gratitude for your relentless grammer corrections…

Forget PC for a second, and the bleeding hearts think for a second, and the spell checkers gte a lfie.
Ireland cannot afford its own, it cannot accommodate its own, and soon it will not be able to feed its own. Ireland is a soft touch and people know it, a true recast is the one that thinks these people are stupid and that they haven’t learnt how to survive all their lives.

Some comments are excusing their shouting and aggressive nature as that’s how they have to deal with bureaucracy or have to constantly haggle and bargain in their own country. So it’s second nature to them.
But welcome to Ireland, if they want to live here it’s for them to adapt to our way and not for us to accommodate this.

I think Mr. Scully does have a point in that there are a lot of africans (as well as other nationalities) exploiting the system and it does seem unfair if new families come in and are bumped up the list because they have bigger families. To me it should be on a case by case basis, first come first served and whose need is greater. But the system is wrong and should be changed. The thing i would have a problem with is him refusing to deal with african families because he has had trouble from some african people in the past. That is blatant generalising and he seems biased against dealing with african people because of a few incidents he has had in the past. You can’t assume every african person is going to be the same. That is prejudice and generalising which basically amounts to a type of racism in my opinion. Basically the system is flawed but the way he dealt with it wasn’t right either.

The poor guy , the more you do for these people the worse they get and are very arrogant . But we are not allowed voice our opinions only they can do as they please , shame on you Ireland shame on you .

hes right in his comments.Others dont want to say We need to provide more support to irish people

This race card ‘think of the children’ brigade have to face up to the fact that the tax payer is being taken for a ride. The benefit system is such a mess and really needs to be addressed. Let’s discuss that in a mature fashion and leave the isms out of the debate.

Thank god there is still some sense in this overly PC world of ours. We are being taken advantage of by people who have never contributed to this country and more than likely will always be a drain on our taxes. He was dead right to say what he said, no point dressing it up. But this should not be a race issue there are countless white irish who are at the same type of tricks. As a nation we are not without our own scheming, social welfare junkies.

One day the Irish will wake up and see the world laughing at them and wonder how it took them so long to remove their head out of their ass, but it will be to late, to LATE

It’s a pity he had to resign ! It’s how I would feel also – but difference is that he in an elected position and has to remain neutral ! I would fully agree with all of his comments .
PC bunch win again ! ! !

Fictional Senator Jay Billington Bullworth put it best when he said:

“All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction. Everybody just gotta keep f*ckin’ everybody ’til they’re all the same colour.”

As I said on an earlier post on here I have recently undergone abdominal surgery. The consultant is an Egyptian, the surgeon also from the middle east. The 3 doctors I see for follow up and dressings are all from West Africa. The majority of nurses are Phillipino

Non of these are benefit scroungers.

Disgraceful the stick he’s been given!!! Go to the council office any day of the week in naas and his point is proved, just because ur foreign doesnt mean ur entitled to jump the list, which is what happens cause the staff are afraid of bein called racist!! Irish People are emigrating because there homeland has nothing to offer them…yet…. Foreigners are coming here because there offered everything JOKE!!!!!

I think he’s actually saying what a lot of people are thinking and never actually say or fear of being called racist. I am not racist but I actually think many of these African immigrants are taking advantage of this over politically correct society we live in and getting priority over other non African families that deserve social support as much if not more than these do. It’s as if mentioning their nationality makes you racist.

I have listened to the interview again and to be honest the Man is right in what he said. If the rules don,t suit scream racist and of course the will be enough idiots to agree. To perfectly honest there should be a priority made to Irish people and not to foreign nationals. We need more politicians like him who stand up for what they think. The only mistake he made was to voice his opinion, that’s unfortunate…. Well done he should be promoted to minister for immigration….

Everyone forms opinions on people from different races, creed’s cultures, nationalities its natural profiling of the human brain and you will see it in every day life whether it be in regards, to the French, English, African, Irish, Australian, colored people, disabled, Gays, Politicians, minority groups, majority groups, Occupy dame street protesters, the list is endless. One is entitled to their opinion, the only issue is when that opinion affects adversely affects any group relative to the other groups or standards set down within law, your job, or publically. I do believe Darren Scully crossed the line and made the mistake of making racist comments and has duly paid the price. I do however also believe that some of the issues he has raised are serious and certainly should be debated. I am torn by this one as I believe he made a silly mistake, but I can certainly understand his frustrations as I have seen myself how some in society use their minority status be what it may to use as a stick to get what they want and it works because their is a lot of fear amoungst people of being accused of racism when only wanting their own rights respected. There is no easy answer to these issues and anyone proclaiming to know better than the next only highlights their ignorance and not their intelligence.

As usual the the PC brigade playing the race card,Eg., if you dont agree with us,your are racist

A pity, such a pity.
A good guy, a straight talker and a hard worker.
If only others were as honest.

We will continue to support him as previously.
Best of luck Darren

Shock, the man has an opinion and does’t give the usual political verbal manure. It is a debate worth having and all the dogooders want him sacked for expressing his (and many) views. Free speech, but only at a price!

He merely stated the obvious,if you wanna see racism become a farmer in Zimbabwe,the ‘system’ in Ireland is being used and abused.The open door policy/insanity is a disgrace.every trade in the country was undercut and no resistance.disgraceful.

The English treated the Irish badly. The same way all tribes in Europe fought each other at one time or another. The same way some tribes in Africa enslaved, raped and murdered other tribes in Africa. So what point are you making?

the full interview (fromon the Late Show on Classic Hits 4FM last night – almost 2 hours) is now online at the show’s web page at http://4fm.ie/lateshow

at last somebody with liathroidi…..

He only said what 80% of the population is afraid to say out loud.

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iheZM6VBJfE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The good people of Naas have bigger issues, Kildare is being taken over by the Dubs ;). Full of Dublin GAA jerseys during the summer. C’mon the Lillywhites

The mayor was right he should have been able to express his views .they are hard going!!!!!

Michael the sad fact is that most ant-racists are actually White. Its called White guilt. Its an incredible control tool. Moreover don’t forget that anti-racism is really just a CODE WORD for anti-white.

Under Article II of the Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

( a ) Killing members of the group;
( b ) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
( c ) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about
its physical destruction in whole or in part;
( d ) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
( e ) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Genocide does not need to be violent. It does not need to be through the use of bullets or mustard gas.

The solution to White genocide? Now Michael thats so simple a child could come up with it. STOP flooding ALL White countries and ONLY White countries with non Whites. No more FORCING everyone to assimilate (and no more smearing Whites who speak out against the genocide as a nazithatwantstokillsixmillionsjews)

Now back to my questions for you Michael that you side stepped…..

if ALL White countries are supposedly for EVERYONE then that means ultimately no more White children! Do you want this? Are you anit-white? Would you support China being flooded with millions upon millions of Arabs?
I’ll add another for you. Are white children just expendable assets that can be sacrificed at the alter of multiracialism?

Fine Gael are like Ireland with Aiden mcgeady. They can’t be seen to have a decent right winger in their ranks.

he represents my view and the vast majority in ireland…

Michael/CA you are revealing yourself with every single post to be more and more anti-white. Now you are trying to deny genocide. CLEARLY you are anti-white. CLEARLY you support mass immigration of non Whites into ALL White countries. CLEARLY you will say this is not genocide because CLEARLY you don’t like the label. Sorry its sticking buddy. You are an anti-white who supports the genocide of my race through racial replacement.

Now on a more positive note i have to thank you, I am thanking you for supporting my point yet again. I’ll quote you “. If you’re somewhere in Europe you’ll probably notice that many of the people around you are from a whole variety of racial/ethnic/cultural backgrounds. They’re already here in large numbers. ” The most telling is you don’t even need to specify a country, you simply say “somewhere in Europe.” Why? Because as i keep saying ALL White countries and ONLY White countries are being flooded with non Whites. Your only response boils down to nothing more than “tough its already happening.” Well that’s very nice of you. I am sure many proud White Europeans reading this will be disgusted at your blatant anti-white attitude. Your type really is becoming the minority now. Everyone is realising anit-racism is a CODE WORD for anti-white.

I love your loaded replies LOL. They are quite predictable. Let me quote you again. “So, even if you can persuade people of your nutty position and stop further immigration, what can you do to reverse what you regard as a dangerous situation?”

The point is Michael/Athesit no one is flooding China with millions of non Chinese and saying to anyone who objects “So, even if you can persuade people of your nutty position and stop further immigration, what can you do to reverse what you regard as a dangerous situation?”

No one is flooding Japan with millions of non Japanese and saying to anyone who objects “So, even if you can persuade people of your nutty position and stop further immigration, what can you do to reverse what you regard as a dangerous situation?”

No one is flooding one of the 50 plus countries in Africa with millions of non Africans and saying to anyone who objects “So, even if you can persuade people of your nutty position and stop further immigration, what can you do to reverse what you regard as a dangerous situation?”

Getting the idea yet Buddy? Oh while we are at it. Are you White? Are you Irish?

Now back to my other questions that you obviously really don’t feel comfortable answering-you have side stepped them twice now.

If ALL White countries are supposedly for EVERYONE then that means ultimately no more White children! Do you want this? Are you anit-white? Would you support China being flooded with millions upon millions of Arabs?
I’ll add another for you. Are white children just expendable assets that can be sacrificed at the alter of multiracialism?

I see this bad behaviour from what seem to be persons that were born in another country a lot around where i live, not them all but a lot, most of them bring nothing to the local community but worse still don’t want to, Darren scully he told it as he saw it, unfortunately in his position it’s not pc, I don’t think he was racist he has just had enough of attitude from people that haven’t realised they live in a different country and environment.

The journal is obviously not impartial in this case where they delete comments in which I was defending the Irish people, cop on there lads

You never see a ad for any African busineses for irish people to take up a job they will only take on there own

The ‘I’m not a racist but’ crowd are gonna have a picnic!

darren scully has just stood down as the mayor of naas ,well at least he has the courage of his convictions…

Darren Scully for Taoiseach!!!!

Idiots. Black Africans. Is to broad a term. Africa is huge. Irish people assume that if your black your African. Then your dodgy. The truth is, colour is irrelevant. It has far more for to do with where you are from, and your background. And yes I am
Talking about Nigeria. A black Zimbabwean whom I lived with did not trust nigerians. There not all dodgy but a lot of dodgy people come from there. It’s just so happens there black.

Imagine if all the travellers some how got displaced to Nigeria. Would the Nigerians be right by saying all Irish white people are dodgy and not to be trusted.

There are far to many dumb ass racists on this thread. You need to grow up and embrace multicultural Ireland. As its the future.

The racism card is out of control, wont be long before you cant pick your nose in public in fear of someone calling you a Nazi, & Well said Garrett Kelliher in your last comment, I agree 100%.

What Darren Scully said – “I will not deal with black Africans because they are ignorant”.

What Darren Scully should have said – “I will not deal with anyone who is ignorant to me, the job of a politician in Ireland has become hard enough without bad manners making it harder. I will, however, help anyone who comes to me for help in a pleasant manner, regardless of race, colour or creed.”

He took the decision on racist grounds, left out the fact that he has probably had more positive dealings with Africans that negative and as such, deserves to get his commupence!

Looks like the ol’ race card triumphs again. Y’can’t beat it. When in doubt!

She’s from Residents Against Reality as one journalist put it !!

Mayor of Naas?
Do they really need one of them.?

I’m confused what is it that he said that has people mad at him? Is it what he said or how they themselves interpreted it?

Fair play to him you won’t see them getting hit in the budget we’ll just hit our own as usual

Fair play to him he said what was happening to him he has freedom of speech so let him use it aggression is not allowed in any work place

Asylum seekers are not actually allowed to work until they are granted refugee status here, these kinds of applications can take years to process so in the mean time they have to rely on the state for all their income. Don’t blame them, blame the system for not working fast enough and for forcing them to become reliant upon it.

You just have to look at the UK, in about 40 years our country will be destroyed that’s what I think anyway

I’m now a Naasist

I hope the Mayor is not forced to step down for expressing an opinion that many of us share. Certainly all my friends share his views and im not exasperating.

There will most likely be a poll on this topic tomorrow on the site. I expect the results to be interesting, possibly scary.

He is dead right, wake up Ireland

I used to hear what you’ve just said all the time……..about the Irish in England.

Fiachra KME i presume you alude to the HOA and yes i am familiar with it as was involved with the UN forces in Mogadishu..
But i don’t expect you would be aware of that as your a commenter of excellent experience.

I’m glad he resigned because this man is cut out for a more important role in this country, Taoiseach president who knows, hold your head high sir because the majority of rational thinking people in Ireland are behind you

“As a public representative I have taken a decision some years back to no longer deal with representations from immigrants coming from african countries”

Scully refuses to do his job as set in the constitution because of someone’s race. So, if I am an African, even if I voted for him, he will not help me if I need it. The only reason he won’t help me is because of my race, not my personal attributes.

Come on lads . . .

Well I suppose if you can’t come up with a good arguement you may aswell just criticise his grammar and spelling. You’re comment carries about as much clout as “I’m telling my mammy” in a row between two grown men.

That’s a cracking photo Garrett, where is it?

The amount of up votes on pro Scully comments i think settles this one. We’ve lost another strong spirit in politics today and won’t come out the better for it.

Paul

No, it was not based on their skin colour. It was based on his experience of their behaviour. He could just as well as said it was white africans (you know they do exist aswell). But they are not the ones behaving like the black africans, that he has experience of.

The Africans… A great bunch of lads

Michael Cuthbert
You said:
“Where is this here that you speak of?
All mongrels really Garrett…”

The here I speak of is Ireland. Would you say to a nigerian or Congolese or Chinese person that they do not have a homeland and are mongrels. Seems to be a very anti-white comment to make. It has been shown that the peoples of Britain and Ireland, especially Ireland are 75-95% the original same peoples who originally moved here. Not that is not mongrelisation at all.

furthermore, any influx of peoples over the intervening period were people of the same genetic heritage from before the last ice age. Europeans are related genetically, not only that but our languages are Indo-european and our heritages are all very very similar, our mindsets are more similar too. So more Europeans who came here are simply later additions of the same material that arrived earlier.

Africans and arabs arriving here are a completely new type of people and culture, there is no comparison with those peoples coming here, and mere mixing of Europeans, whom we were already.

There should be a poll on this topic on the site tomorrow. The results from which will probably be disturbing i.e. very pro Mr. Scully!

I see that the rape of a well-reared, religious, model student aged 16 in Athlone has barely merited a headline. Perhaps it’s because she’s Nigerian and her attackers were four White Irish males and a female. Thanks to opinions expressed here and by that gobshite in Naas, any of her attackers reading the comments here might glean moral support for their actions, because being African, she probably deserved it. We have reached an all time low as a society….on our own by the way, with no input needed from outsiders.

Cuthbert

Show how Pa is racist?

I’m not being racist but…comments, are often followed by sweeping statements of a racist nature. There needs to be more education about race relations in Ireland, ignorance breeds racism., and it happens to white ‘non -nationals’ and ‘black non nationals’ ( That phrase is so offensive!) who don’t have an Irish accent.

Welcome to 21st century Ireland, where casting aspersions on a particular race, is classified as freedom of expression. Well, let all who has to sinned before throw the first stone. Their are 30 thousand Irish leaving in Nigeria don’t talk about Africa as a continent. Please Africa is not a country but a continent.

The comments here are scary. I’m sick of hearing this meanness.

Ye are concentrating now on black Africans for taking all your benefits. When you’re done with them you’ll start on the loan parents, then the social welfare recipients, then the mortgage defaulters, etc etc. If you’re among any of these, basically a human not super rich – be afraid.

Divide and conquer. Nothing new here. It’s how the powers that be have always kept control of the masses. It’s time to pull together and let the fear feck off!

At least it has us talking about racism in Ireland. It has to be stamped out.

“Evil flourishes while the good do nothing” and all that…

We have to address racism in Ireland towards travellers and immigrants. Especially when we’re facing challenging times.

There is no “them and us”. We’re all “us” !!!

Hmmmm….

garreth kelliher america is not officially and historically white, and before you get on your high horse the mayor has a valid point

I think it is great that our country is more multi cultural these days, years ago I had experience of black people only from johnny weismuller movies until I went to the uk so my first encounter with a black person was when I was 17 .
I used to have this mate in the uk called daz who used to call me brethren after a few red stripes to which I asked how could we be brother if we were of different races…
His reply was ” we both have the same enemy mon : the British government. ”
In the eighties this made perfect sense during the thatcher years.
As far as scully’s reasoning goes I would say that he made a valid point very badly .
He should not have tarred everyone from an entire continent with the same brush. I have travelled a bit through-southern Africa and believe me nigerians do seem to have a reputation for being abrupt, rude , intimidating and quick to play the race card even in Africa .
Having said that this is probably due to the difficulties living in the likes of Lagos where it is every man for himself and barging your way through life is the only way to survive.
A lot of people complain about foreigners getting looked after by the welfare state too well at the expense of Irish people but even even Irish migrants will do anything they can to get on a level footing with the locals economically if they are trying to make their fortune abroad .
Bottom line is we need foreigners in this country for lots of reasons and nigerians coming here have to learn more about our culture and stop playing the race card every 5 minutes or else this type of cultural incompatibility will continue.

Can’t believe the racism on this site…very depressing times to be irish indeed..

This has been a real eye opener for me…now I can see what foreign people are up against in this country. He has inadvertently done foreigners a favor by highlighting the inherent racism in this country.

I don’t like Liverpool FC or it’s fans, am I Scousist?

Ah Garrett, you clearly have an unhealthy obsession with neo-nazi ideology. In your mind, who isn’t an extreme leftist? You clearly lead a very sheltered life if you believe most people agree with your views. You could test your claims by starting an Irish wing of the NPD. Bring that fine Saxon mindset to Ireland. They did the English a power of good, what what…

I’m not being racist but… insert racist statement…
Ignorance breeds racism and race relations and knowledge of other nationalities is pretty poor in Ireland. I don’t think there is room for a public representative who will only represent some members of the public, he needs to be educated about what racism is and what it isn’t.
Racism is also experienced by whites with non Irish accents in Ireland, I imagine it is much worse for Africans, which is possibly why they feel the need to be assertive when they see a public representative who is hostile to their place of birth and skin colour. It isn’t a fair system they are battling with.

That’s why 4fm were trying to contact me yesterday – Show Racism the Red Card have a statement on http://www.theredcard.ie/news

Yes there is Dars up there saying ‘I am not racist but… ‘

and Diego – what evidence do you have…

There’s more Irish people up to those tricks! Where’s the outrage about them?

Alot of mindless bigots here today. How is it acceptable to prejudge anyone? Are every Nigerian in Ireland thieves and wasters? Thats just not smart.

His racist and bigoted views do not represent mine nor the vast majority of people I know.

@ Diego Attley I imagine a lot of Africans find it harder get hired due to racism, which is why so many of them are self-employed, working as taxi drivers and setting up their own businesses. In the area where I live there are several African businesses such as barber shops and specialist grocery stores, which are contrbuting to the economy and providing employment. Based purely on casual observation, there also seem to quite a lot of Africans working as security guards/bouncers and for various NGOs. In addition, there are also loads of African students who pay exorbitant fees to study here – your proposal would ban them from doing so!

I agree completely with what James Quirke said above – what’s racist about tge mayor’s comments is singling out a group of people based on the colour of their skin and saying ‘they are all the same’ and ‘I am going to discriminate against them’. That’s pretty much a textbook definition of racism!

How can anyone in this day and age have such a backwards view? You have no right no moan about being labeled a racist, as you quite clearly are one.

cuthbert

furthermore, Europeans are all from the same genetic material and are related genetically, ancestrally and culturally. The saxons are not the only tribe of Germans, many of the other tribes of Germans warred with them too, as well as the celts. Celts also traded and intermarried with Germans on the continent, before they came to ireland, so we too have our fare share of germanic genes.
not only that, but the waves of saxons that you think came to Britain and Ireland in fact were in so small a number so as to have negligable effect on the demographic native celtic populations already here in both Britain and Ireland. The native peoples here have mostly been untouched for over 10,000 years. But any Europeans coming here are simply additions of the same genes and similar european cultures that we already had. Completely uncomparable to African and arabs coming here. A completely different race and culture.

Down with racisim. We are all humans from the one race, it’s just some of us are more troublesome than others.

I think in fairness he has to be removed as Mayor if he doesn’t resign. It’s up to the larger electorate in 2014 asto whether he should remain a councillor or not…

I think we’re losing the message here. Scully may have been on the end of some bad behavior but rather than take it on a case by case basis he summarily declared he would refuse to help anyone of Black African descent. How is that anything other than racist?

I am surprised at such a negative attitude from the people here. Considering Irelands history of immigration from the famine times to the fact that everyone now seems to be fecking off to Australia you would expect a more tolerant culture to immigrants. I guess in these times Ireland has forgotten it’s roots, and to think we used to be know for our kindness and generosity.

‘many Africans are well versed on their entitlements’ – how dare they! I’ve met many nationalities over the last 10 years. Good and bad in all, including the Irish. this is a time of high stress in this country, we have to be careful about how we deal with others, and not jump to conclusions based on what are shortcut assumptions. We can’t complain about new people in this country getting what they are entitled to, while at the same time purchasing goods made in medieval and slave like conditions in other countries. You can’t just take the easy bits of a globalised economy.

I can’t believe this is still going on. As the popular expression on this site goes: “would ye grow a pair” and stop being so scared.

Racism stems from fear. All you’re showing is what a crowd of wimps ye are. Scared you’ll get a headache cos the Africans talk so loud? Scared they’ll take all your houses and don’t forget the bloody prams! Seriously? The smell of fear is nauseating.

Scully is a racist, a bigot and a fool. What town could want him as their major.

I think your comment lays bare the latent racism that pervades our society. Surely your actions and expressed opinions on race determine whether tour a racist or not, not the most subjective of opinions of all – your own.

Indeed! And most of those Poles worked harder here than the Irish ever have. If the Irish built America then it could be said that the Poles built Ireland. And as Mr. Scully implied, we would get equal treatment in Poland but i think we wouldn’t fare as well in countries outside of the EU whose citizens we house, clothe and feed without question.

Fleetingwhim
His comments were on based on the colour of their skin, the comment was based on their behaviour. He said..HE FOUND black africans to be such and such, and he went on to describe HOW he found them and what his experiences of them were. THAT is not racist at all. That is HIS experience as he found it at the hands of black africans. Not white africans (which do not exist- there are only white europeans who are from Africa).

He has said something completely factual, how is it factual, because it is something HE experienced. That is how he generally found them to be.
Now….is he supposed to not say how he found them, and his experience, concerning his general experience of them?
If you are proposing that…then you are a tyrant and a stasi thought control police.

fascinating how he can claim not to be a racist. He might want to look up the definition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism.

If a man loves all races and does not hate any other race but if he criticises bad behaviour that a group DO exhibit. Then the far-left extremist “your a racist” junkies, whip up into a frenzy and froth at the mouth.

There is only one reason they do this having proven that one does not hate any other race.

They do this because they have a world view and an agenda that is called… no nations, no borders. It is an agenda in which they believe everyone has a right to live anywhere they want, anytime. So they shout racist to bully, and guilt trip people into shutting up, so that their ‘no nations and no borders’ policies are put into law and gov policies.
They do not want any talk of how immigration is bad or how western europeans have cultures that must be protected and defended. And to do that we need our land protected to survive as a culture and nation.

Oh. And I didn’t suggest former Mayor Scully is a nazi. I was referring to your own views…

Derek Richardson, I also made the point America was inhabited by native Americans and look what immigration did to them, it devastated them. I also stated that the U.S is not America. The United States is a political entity which WAS designed, built and fought for at its inauguration by white Europeans. Of which we Irish were a part.

But also you should look up the Solutreans. They were whites from France/Spain who managed to reach America by travelling along the glacial icesheets up toward Iceland, Greenland and over to America. They have found hundreds of white skeletons and tools that are the exact same tools as used by the peoples of that region in Europe from those neolithic times. so indeed America was populated by whites first who were then butchered by the oriental Americans we know as native Americans today.

I am not saying the Irish solely built America, but I am saying we went to white made countries. We went along with our european cousins to white countries. We did not go to black and arab lands and change the nature of their populations out of all recognition.
The U.S is a political entity devised founded and built by europeans, of which we Irish had a part in every stage of the process. I am also saying that immigration of Europeans to America was bad for the natives there too, it devastated the natives and it will do the same here too.

We have a right to protect and preserve this land for our Irish culture, and I support Africans having the total control of their lands free from capitalist banker western exploiters. But the far-left cannot see that.

4.74 degrees of separation:
http://storyful.com/stories/1000014221

The difference being you still deal with these people, you still talk to them and some are rude, but as you said yourself, some are not. Mr. Scully came out and point blank refused to deal with Africans, a whole continent of people, based on their skin colour and origin – racist.

Mr Brady. Try to make sense even while hurling insults at people. Your comments about another rape seem to try to focus the issue on who did what rather than trying to understand the point I was making. Being racist or prejudiced and publicly voicing that, affirms the idea that some loonies hold – that people are lesser beings simply because of their ethnic origin. I strongly suspect that you might be one of those loonies.

“I have been proud to be Mayor of Naas and to represent all the people of the town”

So says the bigoted racist who last night told Niall Boylan on the 4fm Late Show that he only represents those who voted for him. I might have a tiny shred of respect for him for standing by his convictions (which I personally abhor), but in changing tack so many times he’s just shown himself up as an inconsistent idiot.

Good riddance. Maybe they might bring in a black person to fill his seat. Wouldn’t that be a very positive step if (and only if, as it would be awful to have the “token black member”) a suitable candidate was available?

Dont kno wat to say…..so if he is not well and go to naas hospital and he is seen by a black doctor..wat is he going to do…..he was way out of order…

Back to the point. Should a racist be allowed to be a public representative? Hitler was. He represented the views of the majority of Germans at that time. Proof that the majority view is not necessarily the correct one.
I deal with many Africans in the course of my work on a daily basis. I have always been courteous and civil towards them and they have always been the same towards Consequently I am happy to say that I now have many Africans that I am proud to call my friends me. Perhaps the Africans in Naas can smell a semi-literate, gobshite racist a mile off and then respond accordingly!

Oh. Any idea what the NPD is Garrett?
http://www.npd.de/

cuthbert

I think you have an unhealthy single track obsession with nazism. I have not mentioned anything about nazism, but simple support for a man having the right to express his experience of how he found a certain group to behave. You calling that nazism is what is extreme, and is exactly what the far-left do. They are the only extreme people around.
As for nazism, Ireland mostly supported Germany in the war. The old IRA were mostly fascist, and we had our own fascist party called Ailtirí na hAiséirghe, which produced a newspaper with over a 100,000 readers and had 9 councillors elected, they were on the eve of a big break through when they disbanded.
I would stop your lying while you can.

I’m genuinely shocked at the amount of support this guy is receiving here. He openly stated he was going to discriminate among his own constituents based on race.

It’s amazing to think Mick Wallace got a harder time for trying to move the Dáil holidays!

If you assume that other people who look like the people you’ve met then sorry…you are a racist. I’ve met a few left handed people who were nasty therefore I have no time for lefties. See how ridiculous it sounds? Loads of ethnicities in Nigeria, and the urban rural cultural differences are also huge. To cover that much diversity in tar you must have used a fairly wide brush.

What always interests me is that racists don’t think they’re racist! Do they even know what the word means?

Here’s how the UN define it:
‘the term “racial discrimination” shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.’

And, it’s illegal in Ireland: http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1989/en/act/pub/0019/index.html

How, on earth, did this guy become Mayor of a big town like Naas? People, we need to put waaaaay better people into politics in this country or we are doomed to have more like this individual.

@James Quirke, I agree with you that the councillor’s comments were racist:

“When he choose to say he would not deal with any ‘black africans’ he made this a race issue not an issue about abuse of the welfare system or merely his preference of no longer dealing with any rude or demanding constituents. He singled out all people of a particular skin color and ethnic background in Nass as being the same and signaled and intention to exclude them from representation. This is racist!”

Obviously to type cast all the people of a particular race from a particular continent is downright insulting, stupid, rude and racist.

However, I also understand why he has chosen not to deal with representations from Black Africans. If his past experiences dealing with them have been bad – i.e. if he found them to be rude and demanding, he feels that there are only so many hours in the day, he only has so many tasks he can take care of, and at the end of the day, unless they have Irish Citizenship, they won’t be able to vote for him should he stand for national office (the typical aspiration of many a 30-something local politician, I’d imagine) he probably feels there’s nothing in it but grief for him by taking future representations from such consituents.

If these were his reasons for not dealing with Black Africans, it’s a ruthleslly clientelist approach – only helping constituents who he feels he can gain some political capital from. So while he may have had his reasons for not wanting to help Black African constituents, his actions have backfired badly for him.

Silly man !

John O Neill

You say with respect but then go on to display the contrary by calling me a loon. Perhaps when your own episode of lunacy has passed, you can get back and brief us all on where my views launched into the atmosphere.

Houston, O’Neill has a problem.

So, Garrett, is it time to resurrect Ailtirí na hAiséirghe (that some kind of alignment to the axis powers?).

Why does it matter to you “African and arabs coming here. A completely different race and culture.”?

You’re clearly well read on this issue. So it seems unlikely you will claim that the earth is only 6000 years old. So, where did humanity start? How do you decide who is a different race/culture? Islam shares the same god as Judaism and Christianity. Is this of any significance when defining cultural difference?

Why do you say I’m lying?

Australia locks refugees in camps, some on mainland, some in remote islands off the coast, it costs a small fortune as well, as is the Irish system of offering subsidies to refugees to live in the community. As for scully, he is blatantly refusing to deal any group based on the colour of their skin rather the issue they have then he should go

Can you please state the source of your “statistics”? The white population of world is not 8%, in fact it is predicted to hit 10% around 2060.

London is a fantastic city, and a lot of it is down to how diverse and multi-cultural parts of London are. However, London’s population is still 70% white. I would be intrigued to see the statistics to back up your claim about East London, please post them if they weren’t pulled from thin air.

Also, you keep saying how it was his own personal experience etc…it doesn’t matter. What he said was unequivocally racist and there is no defending that.

I have never seen so many “i’m not racist but..” racists in one place……

@Sean C…. I totally agree Darren Scully is a racist and a bigot he is a disgrace to his Office that he was elected. He should be remind himself of the attitude that the Irish met when our forefathers had to endure when they emergrated “No Irish need apply”

Samolians? If you mean Somalian… You obviously havent watched the news about the famine in the horn of africa

Well said pa..

Oh dear…build a bridge and get over it

People who are not racist do not need to say “i’m not a racist!”

Try making an argument instead of resorting to insult. If one has to resort to insult than you know what they say….they have no argument and have indeed lost the argument.

My two cents,
We have to look at this from a wider angle, where is this undercurrent of racism going in Ireland, we as a nation will have to consider our position on immigration and social reform, long story short is we just don’t know how to deal with multi cultural-ism, we have no experience of it and no expertise on it, and what happens is outbursts of frustration and anger towards immigrants because their a “them” and it’s easier to blame a them than look at our own shortcomings. I agree that our current economic situation can’t deal with the same amount of refuges and scammers as it used to but that’s the governments job to catch them not ours, but remember second generation immigrants will settle in better, most go to collage have Irish accents and our more accepting of our way of life, so i say give it ten years and we, as society will be more adapt at this whole multi cultural thing

I see from the commentary so far that Racism is very much alive and showing its ugly head in these blogs.
I personally was totally abhorred when I read the text of the now former Mayor of Naas’s outrageous radio interview.

Am I surprised ? Not at all – Am I ashamed ? Yes I am .
Was he right to resign ? Of course he was.
Presumably he will also resign his Council seat too, as presumably he will be facing well deserved criminal charges too?

Reminds me of seeing a sign in a window of a B&B lodging house in London years ago – “No Irish & No Dogs”

Paddy, give us a hint?

Ha. Final solution eh? Who was the last white supremacist to use that term Rabbit?

Keep the xenophobes at their keyboards. The streets are safer that way…

i am now conor

Garrett. Since significant areas Masai land in southern Kenya have been enclosed, the Masai have been driving their herds ever nearer to Nairobi, looking for pastures new, mingling with non-Masai. Young Masai go to university in Nairobi, then head back to the family for the weekend to help out. When “home” they where their traditional attire, with western accessories – runners, digital watches, etc. How would you deal with migrating Masai?

Bollocks talk. The Irish emigrated like a swarm of locusts after the famine and swamped the USA. They were as welcome amongst the WASPs in the USA as Romanians are here now.

Freedom of expression had never granted an inalienable right to be an ignorant racist bigot.

Yes you are, Pa, you sure are…

Go on, get it out of your system. It’s the Jew isn’t it Garrett…

You seem not to be aware Mr Kelliher that the difference between the human ‘races’ is actually unnaturally small given the time we have had to evolve. Geneticists believe that there must have been some cataclysmic event in our not too distant past which left perhaps just thousands of us to continue the species!

The differences which frighten you are merely cultural. I would suggest that building bridges between these cultures is about the safest way to ensure the survival of our so genetically limited species.

Your “who made them come here” comment that is (and judging from that one, probably the rest too).

You call this political correctness gone mad? One asks what sort of a mindset you come from. Check the Irish stereotype, a lazy good for nothing alcoholic Mick. Does that description describe you? Now think of a British mayor saying he’s not dealing with any more Irish. That’s what we have here, ignorance and racism from a figure in authority that should know better. Yes there are loud mouthed Africans but there are also Africans who don’t deserve to be tarred with the same brush. This Scully guy should not only have resigned he should also be charged with incitement to cause racial hatred. This country in spite of its capacity to relentlessy haemorrhage its Population as emigrants has never learnt to accept immigrants. The country is full of ignorant parochial jumped up rabble rowsers like this Pratt. I’m sure he’ll get a cheer in the local hick bar from the rest if the thicks.