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Greyhound plan to increase bin charges in Dublin a ‘farce’

The waste collection company said it will be increasing prices in Dublin from next week.

Image: Mark Stedman/Photocall Ireland

PLANS BY WASTE collection company Greyhound to increase the cost of bin charges for households in Dublin city have been criticised as a ‘rip off’ and a ‘farce’.

The company, which took over the waste collection service from Dublin City Council at the end of January, will bring in the price increase from next week (1 July).

Greyhound has sent a letter to customers which says that there will be an increase of €1 for each lift of a black bin, which currently costs €6 per lift. The company says that the price rise is to cover the increase in the Government landfill levy.

Dublin West councillor David McGuinness (FF) said that the rationale for the increase is spurious and does not stand up to scrutiny.

“Dublin residents deserve better than this rip off,” said McGuinness.

Sinn Féin councillor Micheál Mac Donncha said that the price increase was another burden on hard-pressed householders in Dublin city.

“The setting of charges is now in the hands of the private company and householders will have to dig deeper from July in order to maintain its profits,” said Mac Donncha.

It had been known when Greyhound took over the waste collection service from Dublin City Council that there was to be a price increase in the summer but the exact amount had not been made available.

Earlier this week Dublin City Council confirmed that it has removed almost 50 public bins in residential areas in a bid to stop people from dumping domestic rubbish in them.

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Comments (45 Comments)

  • gerry 23/06/12 #

    While councillors and TD’s talk of shock and rip off will any of then actually do anything constructive about this? When it was passed to Greyhound, the dogs in the street(pardon the pun) could tell you this was going to happen. It’s a commercial company entitled to charge for their services.

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    • Spot on.

      The councils tried to run their on bin service, remember? Remember what happened them? They were scrapped because they were a massive financial hole in the council’s budgets.

      Either:
      A – Private company takes the contract and charges enough to cover costs and make themselves a profit, as all companies should
      or
      B – Councils run it, the costs of running it detract from other projects and the losses made are put onto the ever growing tax payers bill.

      I’ll take A, thanks.

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    • Council services which were paid for out of general tax, i.e. overwhelming PAYE, were scrapped on the pretext of efficiency. The real reason was to facilitate privatisation, by delivering captive markets to business interests. Soft, soft money.

      Now we are seeing monopolistic price hikes, and the privatisation apologists here still have the gall to call it efficiency.

      And, according to the polls, dumbass Irish voters want more of the same. If we don’t learn, what’s happened with waste will happen next with water.

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    • Greenstar have notified customers of the same. nThis is a government levy. nNow you know who to point the finger at.

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    • @wolfgang if a private company can provide the service and make a profit surely the council can do it for less and break even? It needn’t be a hole in council’s budget.

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    • Thinking that a private company providing a service in a free market with competition will always provide that service for as low a price as possible is simply incorrect, its not what happens.

      What happens is that they will charge as much as the market will bear. That’s basic economics. And if the local councils give them an effective monopoly on a service you can’t realistically opt out of, well, they’re going to make the market bear an awful lot. A 16% hike is only the beginning…

      ….and it’s exactly this that every bin tax protestor was saying while everyone else said they were being stupid.

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  • Aaron 23/06/12 #

    Every private waste operator will be increasing their charges this month and it’s all do do with the government increasing the cost of the landfill levy. For TD’s to then complain about it is comical.

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  • Have been using Citybin for the last couple of years and wouldn’t use anyone else. Great service and they are quite reasonable on price. I have even called them on occasion when I have forgotten to put the bins out and they came back around. Great company!!

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  • I’m in Westmeath and got email from aes to tell me bin lifts would be increasing to 11 for household, 6.50 for organic and 5 for recyclables due to government landfill levy. Surely only household rubbish goes to landfill so why is there an increase in recycled and organic too?

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    • Probably has something to do with the fact that a lot of people dump their general waste in their recycling bins. My neighbours on both sides do that (animals). I’m sure the waste companies are just sick of it and unfortunately everyone else suffers. We actually don’t pay for our recycle bins so that’s why people do that here. The companies should hire inspectors and issue fines for incorrect bin usage and refuse to take recycle bins from offenders until the fines are paid.

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  • A letter writer to the Irish Times ran the numbers and concludes that Greyhound is indeed overcharging by at least €14/year with this increase. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/letters/2012/0622/1224318456501.html

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  • Didn’t think landfill levy applied to waste stored illegally in Kildare before been exported to eastern Europe for burning.

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  • More rubbish tips in the Dublin mountains I feel will be the end result here.

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  • Change services, i hear Thorntons are the cheapest in Dublin.

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  • Free Market. . .All that jazz. We can’t socialise basics like water, refuse collection and, down the road, health and education. But at least we can socialise Anglo’s little problem.

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  • Greyhound like most major waste contractors are now using the indaver incinerator at duleek. The levy does not apply to incineration which is waste recovery. I would be very surprised if they are using landfill only for grey bin wastes.

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  • Don’t worry people. Big Phil will subsidise the cost with what left over from the household charge after the bondholders have had their pound of flesh.
    It’s for the provision of local services isn’t it?

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  • For this to work you need competition ,it’s basic economics and with only one company it will always look like were being fleeced ,as there’s no alternative

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  • Councillor David McGuinness (FF) has a cheek to complain / comment about this price increase and the whole Greyhound debacle as it was his party (when they were in government) which removed the executive power for the rubbish collection contract from Dublin City Council. The result is that we have elected councillors who are powerless to do anything about this and that democracy is falling it’s citizens.

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    • Get over yourself, I am an elected county councillor and I will continue to represent the people that elected me. Slagging off people anonymously is low.

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    • random 24/06/12 #

      Anonymously? I do not think it means what you think it means…

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    • In response to Councillor McGuinness’s (FF) comment, my posting was clearly not anonymous. Rather than address the issue I raised, Councillor McGuinness chose to belittle my point, which is quite frankly unacceptable and alarming for a public representative. For the record, I am not a member of any particular party, but that I am a homeowner who is suffering as result of increased Greyhound charges.

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  • That’s a load of rubbish.

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  • If more people had of backed the boycott of bin charges years ago we wouldn,t be in this situation, anti bin charge campaigners tried to tell people the service would end being privatised if bin charges were accepted, enough people didn,t listen and this is now the end result.

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  • This is what happens when you go private, thanks once again to the wonderful people running our country ,yes ! running it into the ground and no doubt they will get voted in again next time,I despair really what next, I must say enda is very quiet these days , clever guy…..

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  • Can’t somebody else do it?

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  • We got a letter last week from Thorntons to say that the bins are increasing from 7.50 to 8.50 per lift!

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  • Michael, you should read my previous point regarding incineration. it is not justified to increase bin charges using the argument over landfill levy.But besides that advising people to burn their own rubbish is pure ignorance.

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  • It’s a pity they haven’t done away with the hassle of bin tags and charges, and make bin collection a ‘service’ encompassed by the household charge! A little giving maybe ????

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  • Toureag 23/06/12 #

    Let’s disband Greyhound!

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  • Bin charges are getting out of hand. We pay €11.00 here in Donegal for a black bin and €5.50 for a single bag it has been that price for at least the last 5 years.

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  • Well in my area Greyhound charges us by weight…..if we have a bad week it costs over €12 a lift!!!!!!!!

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  • Welcome to the real world

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  • I don’t have an issue paying anyone a reasonable fee to dispose of the rubbish I created. My worry is what happens if the general public revolt and don’t pay the charges to the private companies ? No rubbish will be collected is what’ll happen, and what’s the backup plan ? Will we have rubbish piled high on the streets ?

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  • Burn your rubbish, you’ll probably put less pollutants in the air than feeding a ‘landfill’ aka ‘a big hole we throw EVERYTHING in and fill it over’.

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    • It’s people like you unfortunately that will actually do this or resort to illegal dumping. More problems created in the long run by increased charges. It’s only dawned on the Spanish government that free sun cream to all is cheaper than treating skin cancer at a later stage.

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    • I think you should read some facts regarding burning your waste. The toxins produced by this activity can cause cancer. Because you burn at such a low temperature you are not destroying all the toxins which come from things like plastic. Burning your household waste is 100 times worse than incineration.

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    • JP the article is referring to the fact that the price is going up due to LANDFILL charges, not incinerator charges. Do you really think putting our rubbish in the ground to rot is better??

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