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Health workers blast €295 “employment tax”

Social workers, physiotherapists and eleven other professions are facing the statutory registration charge by next year.

IMPACT TRADE UNION is vowing to ‘do whatever necessary’ to secure a reduction in the registration fee due to be demanded of some of its members.

A €295 annual fee is due to be imposed on social workers and 12 other health professionals from next year, and the union says it is tantamount to a “tax on employment”. Social workers are the first profession subject to the new arrangements, and those that remain unregistered after 31 May 2013 will be barred from practising.

IMPACT is advising social workers who are already qualified to postpone their registration until the fees dispute is resolved.

While the introduction of statutory registration is welcomed by IMPACT, it’s felt that the fee is too high, particularly when compared to the fees of €88 for nurses and €90 for teachers.

The statutory registration means what social workers, social care workers, speech and language therapists, occupational therapists, psychologists, physiotherapists, chiropodists/podiatrists, clinical biochemists, dieticians and orthoptists will be at risk of being struck off the register for professional misconduct, poor performance, criminal conviction, or impairment due to illness including dependency on drink or drugs.

Spokesperson for IMPACT Christina Carney has warned the health minister not to “underestimate the resolve” of those involved, and said it’s highly possible that a dispute may arise if an acceptable solution isn’t found.

IMPACT has also said that its members will have access to legal representation should their fitness to practice be called into question. Health care professionals are being advised to seek advice from their union immediately is any complaints are made against them.

Nurses are already subject to statutory registration and Clare Treacy of the Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation said that the number of complaints is on the increase, and that legal costs can be substantial – up to €10,000 a day in some cases.

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  • What’s astounding is that up until now there hasn’t been such a regulatory body with professional registration for these professions.

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    • There has always been regulation of these professions, just not through a single agency. Garda vetting is required to work in the health service in Ireland and for each of the professions outlined above professional governing bodies already exist and membership (and fees) have been mandatory for some time.

      I cant speak for the other professions involved but Medical Scientists already have to pay a minimum of €210 depending on our pay grade to the Academy of Medical Laboratory Science…. who do the same thing as this new CORU crowd…..

      The crap thing is we will have to stay registered with the AMLS as-well to meet the requirements of our continuous professional development scheme….

      So its exactly what it says in the article a €295 tax for something we all-ready have and all-ready pay for

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    • that’s a small amount to pay..anyone who install electric gates CCTV alarms security have to pay 2000 each to be allowed install equipment is have a security gard

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    • This is not about regulation. It is merely another form of revenue. And now uncle Sam is forcing these professions into registering.

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    • @Anthony “Garda vetting is required to work in the health service in Ireland” While this is true to work in the HSE in any capacity, we’re now seeing the introduction of agency staff in almost all areas and grades as a result of the employment embargo. As they work for an agency and are not directly employed by the HSE they are not required to have garda clearence, while many of these agency staff are Irish, a significant amount are not, and for these particular employees Interpol would have to be contacted along with the police in their country or origin. To do this would be a time consuming and possibly expensive action, who would foot the bill? I’ve known people who had to wait a couple of months for their garda clearance to come through before being allowed to set foot in a hospital, imagine an agency who have a high turnover of staff and want their new employee onsite quickly. If Interpol and an Eastern European police have to be contacted they could be waiting 6 months. It doesn’t happen of course.

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    • I was agencey staff for the hse at one stage, I had to have Garda vetting and AMLS membership

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    • None of the various agency staff I’ve spoken to have ever had to get garda clearence, including some relatives, and as I said it would prove very difficult to do for many of the agency staff who have come from Eastern Europe and worked in several countries across Europe. What about African agency staff, who would an employer contact for police clearence there and how long would that take? It may be that the that the agency paramedic body you worked with required garda clearence as you would be working with the HSE, and this was a good thing, but as more and more HSE staff are now replaced by agency staff this doesn’t seem to be the norm from what I’ve been told.

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  • Fer the love of Jaysus. What’s next, creel-winders? Tailors? Handymen? Fiddlers that flake out the old mountain reels?
    How about a tax on children and clerics, and a double tax on the children of clerics, and a triple tax on the children of the children of clerics who have become clerics.
    Cats. What about cats. Is there a tax on cats yet?

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  • In order to look for work you will need to be registered with CORU- there will be no reductions available for unemployed social workers looking for work, and we all know €295 is a lot of money when you are welfare. By offering no reductions to unwaged or disabled workers, they themselves are violating the code of ethics they have been established to ensure their members follow.

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  • These people spent a lot of years and money studying and now they have to pay for the privilege of working in their profession

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  • It’s called a “Quango”. More jobs for FG and Labour hangers-on

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    • “The Health and Social Care Professionals Council at CORU has 25 voluntary members who have been appointed by the Minister for Health and Children. It has a lay majority with one member representing each of the 12 registered professions, and 13 other members who do not come from the registered professions. ”

      That’s 25 appointed by the minister for health. “voluntary” of course. But so voluntary they even have a section on their site where you can fill in your online “expenses”. You need a log in unfortunately

      http://www.coru.ie/council-member-area/alias-34/

      Quango !!

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    • Jerry 30/05/12 #

      Obviously you know very little about professionals it will be made up of their peers to oversee their practice , just as every other board for teachers nurses . Know what you are saying before you make silly statements quango my arse

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    • Jerry. Try to follow along here. I posted the text and all for the slow people like you.

      It clearly states 13 appointees who are not in the profession. All appointed by the minister for health.

      Quango

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    • And I will Quango ur arse if ur rude to me lime that again. Jerry.

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    • Jerry 30/05/12 #

      Shaking I am what is lime meant to mean Croke park never be scrapped have to get on that quango friendly with local minister

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    • Nurses and teachers can well afford to pay the E295 registration fees! This is government showing their fear of public service unions again! Oh for the day when we elect a government strong enough to take these leeches on!

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    • My apologies Jerry it was a typo. Meant be “like”.

      Croke Park will be defo be scrapped, regardless of a Yes or No. If No, we’ve no money. If Yes, we can apply for funding from the ESM but I’m reliably informed we won’t get it if we don’t slash public service pay – hence the unseemly rush to pass the referendum.

      As for the Quango membership, make hay while the sun shines.

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  • As a newly qualified social worker I welcome regulation of the profession, it is a positive step and will help the social work profession to become more accountable (or as accountable as a worker can be working within a HSE Structure).I have spent in around the region of 20000euro to have the priviledge to call myself a social worker. CORU allow newly qualified students a reduced rate which again I have no issue with, however I do have an issue with the fact that there are very few Social Work jobs at the moment, I am like my fellow peers looking at many months of unemployment and may be lucky to get in with an agency (who by the way DO require me to go through Garda vetting and clearance). CORU requires us as registered workers to keep up and maintain Continuous Professional Developement as well as to receive supervision etc, however no job=no supervision and CPD choices are limited when you dont have the means to fund the courses being offered, yet I have to register in order to get a job. The English GSCC (the regulatory authority equivalent to CORU) charge a joining fee of 155pounds for the initial registration and first year and 30 pounds a year hereafter. CORU need to take into account the number of unemplyed social workers and the problems that arise from this. I will happliy pay any registration fee if it means there is a job at the end of it for me.

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  • Who is Rodriguez detriano? Teacher,nurse,farmer.Who will teach his children or look after them when they are sick?
    Another whinger. Crome Park agreement didn’t get the country into the state it’s in.

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    • No Peter, it didn’t, but it sure doesn’t help the situation. And old Rodrigo has a point, many are ‘of Farming stock’ and are used to getting hand-outs for NOT being efficient or productive….so it’s in the blood perhaps! Remember to Vote tomorrow!

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  • Another Stealth tax me thinks …. This on top of every other unfair and unjust tax introduced of late . Ridiculous.

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  • Professional Registration fee’s are tax deductible

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    • No they aren’t, even if the were its still a quango…. we already have this under a different name but they now want us to pay it again

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    • Where there is a statutory requirement for membership of a professional body etc.

      In some instances, individuals are required by statute to be registered members of a designated professional body, association, society, council, etc. before they can carry out the duties of their employment. Under long standing practice, a deduction under Section 114 TCA 1997 is allowed in respect of the annual registration or membership fees in such instances.

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    • the tax deductable thing is news to me, my payslip never takes account of it since i have to pay myself by bank draft once a year.

      The requirement for work as a medical scientist within the public sector is outlined in an order made by mary harney under section 22 of the health act 2004. It states the qualifications needed as well as “eligible for membership of the AMLS” however the only accepted proof of eligibility for membership is to get actual membership, or have the english IBMS membership in certain cases. in reality to get/hold down a job in the private or public sector you need membership

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    • there is no loophole to get out of paying, believe me ive tried

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    • Anthony, AMLS membership doesnt have to be renewed. Once you get it once, then thats your eligibility right there. I havent been a member in 4 years.

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    • Union fees used to be tax deductible but no longer are. Professional registration fees are not.

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  • Do they not pay enough in income tax? This is becoming a joke. It is time for this Govt to be kicked to the kerb. They are grossly incompetent!

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  • franco 30/05/12 #

    One more good reason to vote no , this is just the beginning .

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  • @ Anthony – apologies I shouldn’t be flippant about this. Nobody wins – another nasty stealth tax introduced by this sham govt. I hope it’s not implemented for all concerned.

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    • Its all good im just a bit annoyed by it, I don’t mind paying the money I currently pay because the AMLS is run by scientists for scientists, and while AMLS membership is expensive they do provide us with on-line learning material, organise the odd conference and stuff.

      CORU will be run by outsiders and do nothing to benefit its members besides giving us a little plastic card and is going to charge even more.

      Unfortunately it will be coming in, its as if they have reached into my wallet and took the extra €295 already

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  • Raise the teachers and nurses charges to the same level! Surely that’s the obvious thing to do!!

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  • soon we all be taxed on the amount of times we breath the air in and out….

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  • Blackmail

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  • Don’t know why their so upset – the costs will be passed on to their customers – yay!!!

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    • Were upset because more money will come out of our wages, I already have to give over 0.5% of my salary to my professional body and some other crowd wants another €295 on top of that to do absolutely nothing new.

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  • The government should force people register and pay a fee in order to exist, that would be a novel method of raising money.

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