You have failed with your ineffective, bully tactics, Phil.

It’s time that you got the sack.

We must lead by example, not thuggery.

Write a letter, emails get ignored

I’ll send one a day until he answers and if he doesn’t, I’ll make damm sure people know much time he gives the people who put him there… I didn’t actually vote for him but you know what I mean!

I no speek inglish.
I no undastand.
Am from china.
Fil plese translaid for mee 2.

Can we toss for that privilege Jimbo?

@ Jimbo,

He won’t wake up! His head is where the sun doesn’t shine. How much is that after costing to get in printed in Irish? Grant it, it should have been in Irish for the percentage of the electorate that can speak Irish, but they now have 2 days to read and understand the sh1te that’s in it! One very important question, who were the printers? Was it an Irish company or were they printed in UK, China, where?

That would be very interesting to know! Sad really, when Hogan realizes that he has to scrap the charge on Saturday! A portion of the money paid in already will have to pay for the printing of the Irish version booklet! Sad state of affairs.

Having a mortgage on a house doesn’t mean you don’t own it. A mortgage just means the deeds to the property fall into the bank’s possession if you default.

Think about it: when you get a mortgage, the bank gives you the money, and you give it to the previous owner of the property. It’s not like the bank gives you the cash and then asks you to give it straight back again.

also because alot of us are paying management fees which allegedly cover the services this charge is supposed improve, so i would gladly pay the household charge if management fees were abolished! and what about the estates that the councils refuse to take over yet, are they gonna suddenly change their minds!?

that’s fair enough gav but a lot of tax payers money has gone in to the banks. local councils won’t go near my estate. grass hasn’t been cut etc so why should we pay it

I don’t disagree with you on the other points, Daniel, just on the first one. @)

Gavin, We are the registered owner yes ,Rightly or wrongly we dont own the property until it paid in full so techinally we are in the process of buying it.
Leaving all this aside there is no doubt this tax is unfair because people with a mortgage are the only ones paying it. They say its for public services , street lighting etc this is already paid for in our public levy charge on our ulitly bill is it not. so if €100 is paid by me will this public levy be taking off my bills?
If i have a second property and paid €200 tax for that, which is suppose to go to the public services, The €100 euro is also going to this public service.
So inessence i will be paying for these charges 3 times, how is that fair when a tenant of a rental property doesnt have to pay it and tax on a property. This is why i say it is unfair.

Is fíor sin

Comhionannas??? in Éirinn???? le haghaidh na nGaeilgeoirí???!!
An mbeidh tú ag iarradh unicorn o Dhaidí na Nollag i mbliana in éineacht le sin?

Paul Wallace.
That is exactly what it boils down to.
People don’t seem to realise that the household charge is a fishing excercise by the government to find out who owns what.
Philli openly admitted this on Newstalk this morning.
DON’T REGISTER!
You will live to regret if you do.
As I have previously encouraged. Just wait a little past the deadline and then make your decision based on current developments.

Yes, happy to pay €1000 per year if need be in return for improved services.

The government make a point of saying that SF impose a council tax up north, well when FG/Lab provide the same level of services – free healthcare inc doctors visits and scripts, waste collection, free education inc stationery and books – then they can come looking for their tax. I’ve had to replace two tyres in the last two years because of potholes that weren’t repaired despite paying a fortune in road tax and vrt. The county manager wastes fortunes on ridiculous pet projects whilst the main street in the town is in a shocking state. There’s no way I’m paying a cent more for them to waste.

900 a year? where does it say that?

“Tóg do bhóthar ort féin Noonan”

agus Hogan

Just hope it doesn’t reach the German media.
They won’t be too happy that Phil is failing to implement their directive.

Exactly! Don’t Panic. Don’t Register. Don’t Pay!

where are next year figures coming from?

If ya register your fooked.. That’s for sure.. Big Brother bully tactics.. Stand up and be counted, I will not be able to be there in person at the garden of remembrance on Saturday, but I will surely be there in spirit.. Solidarity to all… Keep going, and don’t give up to scaremongering from bullies voted in to govern our great Island..

@Martin, well said…

@ Simone agreed I keep making the same point for weeks now. Dont forget you and everyone else that pays a electricity bill there is a pso (public service obligation) on it that is suppose to pay for street lighting. And a carbon tax on your gas bill.
So in my head this €100 is totally unfair on a mortgage payer and anyone that has paid for their house,
In real terms if anyone parents bought and paid for their home they now have to pay this tax, but someone who decides not to try buy a house doesnt pay. makes me sorry i never rented of the council, sure i could be living next door to me now the way the council intergrates people now for half the price. my boiler breaks ah call the council they will fix it, boils my blood i can tell you.

Bilingual translations are necessary under the Official Languages Act 2003 which came about as a result of Ó Beoláin v. Fahy [2001] 2 I.R. 279. The judge in the case held that …it is not possible (at least in the absence of law of the type envisaged in Article 8.3) to exclude Irish, which is the national language and at the same time the first official language of the State, from any part of the public discourse of the nation or from any official business of the State or from the official business of any of its members. Nor is it possible in these contexts to treat it in a manner which is less favourable than the way in which the second official language is treated. Neither is it possible to prevent those who are capable and desirous of using Irish in making their case or in communicating from so doing or to disadvantage them when so doing in any national or official context. As such, any review of the bilingual policy may now only be changed by either overturning the original court case (which would prove exceptionally difficult and may necessitate a referendum to allow such a court case to proceed) or by referral to the people in a referendum which would, by its very nature and as a result of several court cases since independence, have to remove the official status accorded to the Irish language. I have a feeling that, in the latter case at least, such a referendum would fail. Whatever feelings people in Ireland have about the financing of bilingual documentation, the loss of a national cultural symbol at a time when we are losing our fiscal, economic and political sovereignty may not go down too well the public.

So what is the problem with a law, envisaged under article 8.3 of the constitution, from abolishing this nonsense? No referendum needed.

If you want your hobby, by all means do so. Don’t force it on the rest of us.

The problem, Eric, is that the Act came about as a result of a legal interpretation of the Constitution. The introduction of a new Act to override the Official Languages Act which would remove the bilingual necessity for documentation is, as a result of Ó Beoláin vs Fahy, no longer simply a legal matter. It is now a constitutional matter. To change the legislation would require the original court case to be rerun (which is, as far as I’m aware, not constitutional, though I could be corrected on that) and the outcome of the court case would have to be overturned.

Regarding your “If you want your hobby, by all means do so. Don’t force it on the rest of us.” comment – we could reverse the roles here. Your insistence that the Irish language is forced on “the rest of us” is hypocritical. The English language has been forced on Irish speakers for centuries. Why is it OK to force English on Irish speakers, but it’s not OK to force Irish on English speakers? At the end of the day, English is forced on speakers of Irish all day every day for their whole lives, while Irish is only “forced” on English speakers for perhaps 1 hour a day, 5 days a week, 30 weeks a year, for 14 years. If you think it’s not fair that you should pay for my “hobby horse” (I didn’t know that one’s own primary method of communication is considered a hobby horse – perhaps my own level of English is not as good as my Irish I guess), perhaps I should have the option of not paying for yours (English).

@Frank 2521

Not sure what you mean? I don’t speak Irish, wish I did. So as far as I can see I’m in the majority that are saying no to this charge. Look at the figures given in the news. Over a million have not paid ….. and hopefully won’t.

Sorry Frank2521, but that is plain horse manure. The cost to the exchequer every year for Irish translations is c. €1 million. Out of a national budget of some €50 billion, the cost of providing legal materials for the Irish-speaking community is not even 0.002%. As for the whole minority bullying the majority – well, maybe the minority wouldn’t have to bully the majority if the majority treated the minority as equal human beings.

the banks own most houses in ireland so its the banks that should pay the €100 charge not the people living in them.

Not only are they bullies, but they bully children no less.

Not only are they bullies, they bully children no less.

(and for whomever is deleting this comment, please care to explain why?)

Eric, I don’t think there is anyone deleting the comments. I’ve been noticing the same problem – it usually takes a while and a few refreshes before you can view your comment. You could try opening the article in a separate browser to make sure that the comment you left is indeed still there.

In Contrast however, “forcing” the Irish speaking minority to do all sorts of business in English, not just a few hours in school, but in virtually ALL aspects of life is not at all “bullying” but just the natural order of business. No double standards here what so ever.

Please go to some old pub owner in Conemara, or some young parent in Dublin raining their children through Irish at home and through a Gaelscoil, and explain to them to their face how their way of life is merely “hobby and a luxury”.

Actually, I need to edit the piece – I’m given to believe that the Thomas Brabazon taking the challenge is the father of the councillor/solicitor who is acting on his behalf.

Would you ever get lost

No!!!

Well said jimbo same repetitive shit from arse lickers like him, seems to be d same few people sprouting shit like that over an over again!!! Build a bridge and get over it we are not paying it end off!!!

Youbettershutup.
Just wonder who is paying you to post this nonsense of yours?

youbetterpayup!

NO! NO! NO! NO! oh…….. and ……. NO! Did you hear me?