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ICTU meets today to determine Fiscal Compact stance

Three major trade unions have called on its members to vote No in the referendum next month.

ICTU General Secretary David Begg
ICTU General Secretary David Begg
Image: Niall Carson/PA Archive/Press Association Images

THE IRISH CONGRESS of Trade Unions’ (ICTU) executive council will meet today to consider its stance on the Fiscal Compact treaty.

Three unions have already urged their members to vote No in the referendum on 31 May. The UNITE trade union, which along with Mandate and the Technical Engineering an Electrical Union (TEEU), has urged the umbrella body to speak with one voice.

However there is a strong indication that the executive council of ICTU will decide that rather than settling on a common policy, members should be allowed a free vote in the referendum next month.

The three unions advocating a No vote have said that the treaty enshrines austerity in the Irish constitution and will do nothing for workers or to boost economic growth.

But the government has argued that the passing of the referendum is crucial to the stability of the Irish economy and will ensure that sufficient firewalls are in place should Ireland require extra funding when its bailout programme finishes next year.

The Taoiseach Enda Kenny compared the Fiscal Compact to an insurance policy on a house: “It’s like saying, ‘look, I’m going to buy this house but I’d like to know that it’s insured.”

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Comments (34 Comments)

  • Would the house in Enda’s analogy be priced well beyond the buyers means and end up having empty rooms, no fuel, no water and no bin collections, estate maintenance etc?
    Oh no wait Enda, I get your brutal analogy now. It’s like buying a house and assuming the powers that be have checked and signed off on the appropriate fire and safety checks before taking out insurance only to find out they lied and the insurance company couldnt care less and you end up homeless but still paying through the nose for a big pointless pile of nothing.

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  • Cant wait for the lies and bullying tactics the government will throw our way over next month. Bring It On bitches.

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  • Excellent analogy by the Taoiseach, is that how his advisers explained it to him?

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  • Er wake up Enda. Love the house analogy. Does the house have 100% mortgage and occupiers are being bullied with extra charges for having a house. I guess we are going to miss that train too. Choo-choo.

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  • Mandate, the same union that did this;
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0414/1224314731740.html

    Not sure which way I’ll vote just yet, but one thing for sure, I’ll never vote on the advice or opinion of any union!

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  • Austerity for at least 20 years. Come on lads do fine Gael think we were born yesterday . Threatening us that multi nationals will pull out if we vote no.
    Reminds me of the Lisbon treaty where govt were not happy with our no vote and told us we didn’t understand what we were voting on so we had to vote again, considering it was a differant govt though and we were voting yes for jobs I wouldn’t trust anyone in power on this new referendum ,
    I will be voting no to austerity
    http://Www.unlockdepression.com

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  • It’s amazing how Kenny uses ‘house insurance’ …. ‘firewalls’ in his analogy of the treaty! His mate bringing in ‘registration fee’ of EUR100 being short of the truth that in fact it will cost each household between EUR800-EUR1,000 next year!I don’t care if Priory Hall and other buildings were built during F Fail time, F Gael has done SFA in the past year for these people! and he wants them/us to vote yes! Get real!

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  • note to Taoiseach…….you insure your house AFTER you buy it…..your as dumb as you look!!!

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  • The Union Executives are the highest paid people in the country when you take in their fees for sitting on boards and the expenses claimed.
    One newspaper estimated that the the heads of the top 2 unions was each earning 300,000 Euro from all their sources of income and their pension plans. They are index linked to the civil service.
    Champaign socialists.

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  • It will really be a bare faced cheek from ICTU if they don’t have the moral courage to reccomend to their members to vote no. Their mantra for the past number of years has been “There Is A Better Fairer Way”. Now when the government seeks to enshrine austerity into our constitution, which if we are honest impacts to a greater degree on lower and middle class, they must stand up for their members and advise them to vote no because there is a better fairer way!

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  • I see that two FG red thumbers were on the comments up to 24 mins ago. They must have sore fingers by now.

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  • Public service unions won’t dare ask their members to vote against this treaty!

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    • @Rodrigo detriano

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t David Begg on a salary of over EUR200,000? Some salary. They’ll still have their job after the referendum?

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    • franco 25/04/12 #

      No wonder his hair is always immaculate ..

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    • It’s easy to fight austerity on E200k a year, Sheila. To make them sit up & take notice, people ought to withdraw their subscriptions. Take away the money. B-B-Bertie played them well. Pay them enough & they’ll stay on board. Whatever one’s view, it is important to go to the polling booth & register your vote where it counts. Even if you spoil your vote. U made your feelings known.

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    • @Declan Carroll

      I will be voting, not sure which way yet, but I do believe in using ones vote. Too many people fought for it and many women died for it. I fought during the Presidental election to have the right to vote for whom I wanted on my ballet paper. I/we won. Always fight for what’s right, what’s true and honest.

      Unless the Government give me huge reasons, not promises as to why I should vote ‘yes’ I’m afraid it’ll be ‘no’. Sending leaflets to homes explaining about this treaty is going to irritate many. There are people who cannot read, they need someone to explain it honestly, if a debate is needed let the chairman be there to help, not for entertainment reasons. There are people with reading/learning difficulties. There are many with dyslexia. I will not be reading the leaflet, it will be put straight into my green bin.

      We don’t have much time left to try and understand it, so I’d advise the Government to get off their fat asses and start telling us the truth about what this treaty means to Ireland, truthfully, honestly!

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    • Spot on. As it stands at the mo, I’m going to spoil my vote. We’ll see how it pans out towards the end. Yes – it is important to get off one’s butt, get to the polling station & cast your vote – yes/no/spoil. Register it where it counts. Anyway – have a nice day !! Sláinte.

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    • Sheila – dont put it in the bin, send it back to An Taoiseach, Dail Eireann. That is what I am intending to do with every piece of literature I recieve from Kenny & Co LTD while they are in office.

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  • To ICTU, be careful with what you wish for, if we don’t have access to a bail out fund and our economy remains stagnant we will definitely need deeper and faster cuts on public expenditure and higher taxes.

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    • Short term austerity is better than perpetual austerity

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    • @Caroline. I agree with you, but will the unions and rest of us be able to stomach the deeper cuts and increased taxes in the short term?

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    • Speaking for myself, if my family have to suffer a short sharp shock of austerity to balance the books and get our economy moving on a competitive footing I will take that.
      If my family have to suffer perpetual austerity to cover the gambling losses of European banks and FF ineptitude, I will take to the streets

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    • Caroloine
      Well said, I will survive short term austerity ,but not what they have planned for us in the long term …

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    • @thomas,, this is the problem with the whole deal thats being offered,,, scaremongering about getting another loan or bailout,, it pure rubbish and ppl should be held to account for this,,, getting access to loans will never be a problem, if ireland in the future were refused a loan from the new ESM it would inplode the euro,,, their is nothing more sure,,, and i take offence to the fact that citizens of our country are being scared into making this rubbish come true,,, I, for one will be voting no,, and will be fighting for a vote on the ESM and article 136,, it is our right and it is our ppl’s right to actually know whats really going on, instead of this scaremongering

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