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Kenny to address meeting of Merkel’s Bavarian sister party

The Taoiseach is in Munich to address a meeting of the Christian Social Union, the regional sister party of the CDU.

Image: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

TAOISEACH ENDA KENNY travels to Munich today to address a meeting of the Bavarian sister party of Angela Merkel’s ruling Christian Democrats.

The Taoiseach will address a meeting of the Christian Social Union (CSU) of Bavaria.

Kenny has been invited in his capacity as the head of government of the country currently holding the rotating presidency of the Council of the European Union, and will brief members on Ireland’s programme of work for the six-month term.

In addition, however, he is likely to use the opportunity to make the case for German acceptance of any European attempts to relieve Ireland of some of its banking debts.

Angela Merkel’s government has been a chief obstacle in this regard, appearing to take a hard-line stance on whether funds from the ESM bailout fund can be used to buy Ireland’s stake in its state-rescued banks.

This may have been tempered by the fact that federal elections are due this September, with Merkel looking to win a third successive term as Chancellor, amid growing antipathy among the German public to the amount their federal government is paying to other eurozone member states.

The CSU is the local sister party to the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), which operates in the rest of the country’s 16 federal provinces.

The CSU and CDU operate as a single entity on the national stage, with the Bavarian party making up three of the ministers in the federal government, though no CSU candidate has ever won a general election when leading the combined entities.

The Bavarian wing of the party is seen as traditionally more conservative than its nationwide counterpart, meaning the party is likely to be even more opposed to the thought of asking German taxpayers to bail out other euro users.

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Comments (57 Comments)

  • ISBA 08/01/13 #

    Funny how Taoiseach Kenny can address the Germans when he is incapable of addressing the Irish people – presumably some unelected out it touch civil servant has been busy writing again.

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    • Surely it’s an honour for our country that the Taoiseach is invited to speak to Members of the major Bavarian Party in his Presidency role. Surely it provides an opportunity for the Taoiseach to influence this important grouping in respect of Ireland’s needs in the near future. Surely most of the readers would see the strategic value of this visit for all of us.
      Oh dear, I forgot that the purpose of these contributions is to rid ones body of the overnight build up of vile and venom and to vent it on the head of some Minister or Taoiseach that just happens to be first on the news of the day!
      Reason and logic don’t enter the picture.

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    • Not half as bad as the morons that blindly follow the detached cretins called a government.

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    • It’s not that, Mike. A good cohort of people on here blame everything from the weather to the fact that they haven’t had a ride since October on the government.

      Every article, even on topics as unrelated as the mars rover or North Korea has posters who will launch in a generic, often barely literate unburdening of pent-up excreta on Irish TDs, ministers and the political system in general.

      Newsflash – TDs are at best peripheral to your lives. Put the effort into something creative.

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    • ISBA 08/01/13 #

      Michael, your vitriolic comment hardly deserves a response – the thumbs speak for themselves. Many of our people come from strong Fine Gael backgrounds and of course abhor the destruction of the Fianna Fáil and PD Government but taken in the round this Fine Gael government (Labour doesn’t exist) is the worst government in living memory- lies, broken promises, grossly incompetent and totally lacking in leadership, all at a time when Ireland needs to stand up and be counted. We will gladly share our files with you.

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    • Michal J., lemme guess – it’s “vile (sic) and venom” when criticism is directed towards the Blueshirts, but perfectly acceptable and reasonable when criticism is directed towards Sinners, “lefties”, etc? Because you certainly pull your weight in the latter category.

      On the topic at hand, I’m guessing Enda is going to wax lyrical about the supposed “Celtic comeback”, “green shoots” and sure isn’t austerity grand altogether. I mean, it’s not like there’s been any functional economic recovery since 2010, with no reduction in unemployment, but sure we’re grand with that, thanks Angela.

      Like the Quisling worm that he is.

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    • His creative writers will no doubt astound and entertain the gathering with new award winning catchphrases.

      Don’t get me wrong, this is what Mr Kenny does and he does it well and yes Michael J it is an honor for our illustrious leader, but for me at least it’s perhaps a little embarrassing to have an impotent vacuous soundbite masquerade as Irelands answer to a political leader.

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    • Michael J. TBH the normal person in Ireland does believe all of what you have said… Don’t let opinion on j.ie affect you….Its not a very accurate yardstick…Just look at any polls they do!!! The ULA and SF would win an overall majority if this site was the barometer of Irish life.. Thankfully its just online pub for people to rant and rave… If it keeps them happy, i guess it has a purpose..

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    • @Declan Cotter
      Ahh he’s back
      Corks answer to KPMG Daddy
      hows the brother in law doing?

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    • Frank,
      I think it best if we not comment or address each other… I really have no interest in you… Do me a favour and do likewise..
      Declan

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    • Declan, can I be your friend?

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    • maybe you should have thought of that before you got your brother in law to
      come on here and try to have a go at me,
      very very childish on your part,

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    • Sorry, what now? Where/when did this happen, Frank? Can you link it for me?

      Was just reading this and thought of Michael and Declan: http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/01/08/fair-play-though-in-fairness-35/

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    • @Voodoo
      look for my comment
      http://t.co/NcbsQUFe
      hope that works

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    • Proper schoolyard stuff, that … you have to laugh.

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    • Frank… No idea where you got the Cork thing??? Galway based actually… As for my cousin??? Are you for the birds?? You actually think I would go to the bother…or they would actually respond either… Afraid you just don’t rank that high in my life..
      So lets just leave it…I really have no interest in anything to do with you…

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    • Declan I will make this as easy as i can
      When one makes a comment using a facebook account its very easy to pop into that persons account
      and find out who exactly that person is.
      When I did, i just had a quick check through his friends list and low and behold what did i find.
      It was a pathetic excuse comment and as I said given the subject of the article was done in bad taste.
      The days of schoolyard antics of getting the big cousin to stick up for you should be well gone for you
      but as I said in reply to the man, its exactly what I expect from a blueshirt muppet!

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  • There is no actual money. It’s all so ludicrous. The famous march bond holder payment is nonsense. Kenny must be the worst possible kind of fool.

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  • DB 08/01/13 #

    So Kenny is been sworn in to Merkhal sister party as party jester.

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  • Just go’s to show how little he thinks about irish people who pay his wages.
    He can travel to bavaria to adress the germans but he cant adress the irish people and explain about all the broken promises.
    He treats the irish people with contempt just like the rest of this government.
    Cant wait for this government to repeat history and end up in the political wilderness again.

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    • Totally agree Mr Gannon and it makes me sick to the pit of my stomach when I see him swanning around having his ego stroked.
      Is it possable to any more detached from reality .

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    • Speaking of things that make me sick to the pit of my stomach… Ladies and Gentlemen ,may I introduce the troll called collins.
      This saddo will stalk you and make snide comments if you call kenny a liar or make any other comments on kenny and his merry band of semi detached liars.

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    • Out of line, Michael. That could easily be construed as a personal threat – either engage with the substance of what someone’s saying or ignore them.

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  • Just to point out that if you had experienced the kind of real poverty that now exists in Germany, particularly when looking at the plight of pensioners in many German cities, you would be riled by (mischievous) reports about spendthrift foreign governments getting a digout on your dime. There’s a huge amount of unfair anti German sentiment here which is likewise based on misinformation and sloganeering. Yes, German banks invested here, yes, Merkel wants to avoid the sort of banking collapse we experienced without holding her banking bosses to account – didn’t work out well where she did- No, not a cent has passed from Berlin to us, but that doesn’t matter when everyone latches on to the injustices they perceive in the current crisis and fails to force politicians to make real steps to solving a self inflicted EU (not purely Irish) crisis.

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    • I would agree with your comment if it wasn’t for one thing. Countries haven’t gotten a “dig-out” from Germany. They’ve accepted a loan to prevent a banking collapse and must pay a significant amount of interest on the repayments.

      Germany stands to profit immensely from this crisis while also preserving their banking sector.

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    • @ Don – well said. I’ve been living in Germany for about 8 years, and it drives me crazy how uninformed and simply bigoted many of the anti-German comments are on this site. The idea that Germany is sitting pretty while Europe drowns is laughable and an insult to those of us trying the scratch out a living here. The fact is that, while unemployment is lower, the day-to-day life of someone living and working in Germany is in no way easier than in Ireland, the financial worry for households is no less, and, unlike Ireland, we’re looking over the cliff-edge here. It’s going to get worse in Germany before it gets better, and I do believe that Ireland’s passed its lowest point in the crisis. Before people lash out idiotic and inaccurate comments about “Ze Germans”, please ask a few people who actually know about life there first and at least try to connect your opinions to reality..

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    • Ecellent comments John and Don but don’t expect anything but abuse on this forum….. Ignornace is a very confortable state for the majority on j.ie….

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    • Like this country and now alot of countries in Europe it is not the German people that the criticism is aimed at but their Government Banks Bankers Speculators Corporations yes German people are starting to feel the pinch too and are soon awakening up to the fact that they have been duped by the bastions of power who are robing the ordinary citizen to cover the costs of their high stakes betting ring .So when people say the Germans they say the power brokers that run the country and in finance it is because if you were to name all the Banksters and crooked Politicians you would be typing all day.

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    • Jason, I completely agree with you that German banks stand to benefit in some way, particularly, in not collapsing under the weight of their capricious investments. Germany the country, however, could do without it for several reasons. In particular, calls for leadership from Germany have been met with unease in Germany, as voiced in particular by former Chancellor Helmut Schmidt.

      I wasn’t, however, saying that our bailout was a ‘dig-out’, I was in fact stating that this is how any economic support has been characterized by some sections of the German media. Lousy reportage is not limited to Ireland, the tabloid ‘Bild’ newspaper, for instance, was responsible for some serious rabble rousing against Greece. Apologies for any confusion.

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    • I can understand that when people refer to “Germans” they mean a certain group of investors, politicians and industialists/bankers, but these cliques exist as a tiny minority of ever nation. Referring to them as “the Germans” is the same as referring to the relate cult few bankers, developers and politicians in Ireland as “the Irish”, which I’m sure many people who contribute here would take extreme exception to.

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  • Will they keep him?!!

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  • he is leading the comic relief delegation . .

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  • Huh! Summoned to Munich to explain what Ireland will be doing for the eu presidency but will be dealt with by a party less likely to help Ireland than merkel’s party which are actually in government?
    Sound’s like a set up..
    German banks will be just fine though..

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  • He won’t get the same reception from the CSU that he got from the fawning media when he got his European of the Year award and coming in the week that Der Spiegel ran a major article which questioned Ireland’s “recovery” he may be in for a big surprise.

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  • Look at that big gombeen head on him.Never saw someone who wanted to be a Kennedy so much in my life.

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  • well if/when the germans get their way on the federal europe it will be a regular thing for irish politicians to be summoned to headquarters so its just setting the pace in a few years it will all seem natural and it wont be written about or wont be commented on as natural as the sun rising. Seems amazing to me that people are sleep walking into all this with out a word or a national debate on it. When the german ambassador goes on national radio and says it is the next step and then proceeds to sell the idea as being good for Ireland and it wasnt even debated any where.it was the friday interview with matt cooper.

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  • Wait a minute! Who’s going to oversee Jim Reilly and the HSE while Kenny is away? see http://www.ottosbunker.com

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  • Will he be speaking in German can he tell lies in that language or does he restrict it to English
    If they know him as well as we do sure they will know they have him by the gooleys

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  • That should sort them out…..

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  • If you were a German you’d have to be getting extremely fed up with paying off everyone elses debts at this stage. I wonder how much of the tax german citizens pay goes to other countries?

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  • Kenny’s golden star butt kissing forelock tugging and groveling award show will take on extra levels of subservience while in the presence of the sister party of Merkel austerity brigade. Kenny will try to regale the assembled masses of the joyous time ENDA is having being the Quisling EUNUCH poodle for Mammy Merkel. Merkel’s financial blitzkrieg of austerity in Ireland to be in the shining light of brilliance of Merkel’s EU policy will be backed up by Enda Eunuch poodle Kenny.

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  • Frothing at the mouth comments utilising 1970s German stereotypes and references to World War Two in 5, 4, 3….

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    • 1970s German stereotypes?What are you jibba jabberin about?

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    • MVM 08/01/13 #

      Don’t mind Michael j he is fg to the bone,don’t mention sf of he’l be off for the day

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    • Really simple. Any mention of politics or politicians on this site brings out a cohort of basically morons who blame all ills on whatever TD is the subject of the article, utilise crass and crude language, have no collective memory of anything further back in time time than last Tuesday and offer no workable alternative to anything save a whine about something they feel somebody else (government, rich, whatever) should have provided for their entitled asses.

      These people are usually green thumbed into the stratosphere. Clear enough?

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    • I remember a time a short time ago when kaiser kenny said ‘ it was immoral to tax a person’s home’ but then again I can remember plenty of things he said that he has forgot or maybe it’s different when your lining your own pockets

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  • Two words. “Vichy France” god help our children…

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  • CSEC BIO 08/01/13 #

    Germany took 92 years to pay off World War 1 debt, they refuse to pay back Greece money they borrowed during World War 2. Give Ireland, Greece et al. 92 years to pay back bailout loans with a fixed return sum say ?70 billion for Ireland, 10 years to reform economic sustainability and Euro crisis over. It is that simple, Greed is the only factor making it impossible! Fair treatment for all in recovering from crisis. Germany got it after Two World Wars, why shouldn’t we get it now?

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