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Talks on Louth-Meath Hospital Group dispute resume

The dispute centres on unions’ concerns about proposed cuts at the hospital group.

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THE LABOUR RELATIONS Commission has continued to oversee talks on proposed cuts within the Louth/Meath Hospital group.

The Louth/Meath Hospital group consists of Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital Drogheda, Our Lady’s Hospital Navan and the Louth County Hospital.

Talks at the Labour Relations Commission resumed today between unions representing staff in the Louth/Meath health service group and HSE North East management. They were adjourned over the weekend.

Staffing

The HSE has confirmed that staffing requirements prior to 1 September 2012 will be maintained for certain critical areas for a period of two weeks to facilitate engagement between the two parties. This will include supplementary staff engaged via agencies and overtime.

The parties commenced extensive negotiations today at 10am in Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital, Drogheda.

The Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation said unions “continue to have grave concerns at the clinical risks associated with management’s cost containment plan”. 

Cuts

The dispute is in regard to management plans to introduce cuts within the hospital group that the INMO says would see the elimination of 400 frontline posts and curtailment of hospital services including the closure of 50 medical beds, critical care beds and theatres.

INMO Industrial Relations Officer Tony Fitzpatrick said that nurses and midwives working within the Louth/Meath Hospital group are deeply concerned that these cuts, if introduced, will “put patients lives at risk”.

The Trade Union Group wrote to the Labour Relations Commission as Unions were concerned about the effect that the proposals could have on services, patients and members.

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Comments (15 Comments)

  • Is this the point where the Irish finally wake up and realise they’re being screwed?

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  • why hasn’t anyone asked james how much he pays his advisers? or how many advisers he has? are they been cut from his budget?

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    • ged_star 03/09/12 #

      Politicians need advisers because they are NOT capable of doing the job that we the Tax payer pay them to do, it’s obvious these overpaid advisers aren’t capable of doing the job that our political elite can’t do, no wonder the countries in the mess it is.

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  • As a staff nurse in the public sector I can assure you that my salary is not 50% more than in the private sector.
    On average, all Irish wages are probably higher than the rest of Europe. This reflects our higher cost of living in this country.
    I wish people would realise that nurses are on an average salary, not the hundreds of thousands the private sector seem to think we earn.

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    • fiona, your right but any newly qualified nurse are not able to get job and what jobs they do get is in caring for the sick in their own homes and only get paid for the time they are in the house so it could be 2hrs or 10 hrs, that’s just not right.

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  • “Their Members salaries are fifty percent higher than those in the Private sector”
    Totally untrue, I get €15,000 less per annum working in the public sector than I would if I done the same job in the private sector

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  • wake you people and smell james’s coffee remember it costs us €600 for one machine? and he bought two( a jar and kettle wouldn’t do)
    All this is a divert for the 600 million paid out today to bondholders and 1.1 million next monday ( unsecure bondholders been paid first we haven’t started to pay off secured bondholders)

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  • The grave concerns expressed by the Unions have nothing to do with clinical care…………..and everything to do with jobs. Public Service Unions can now start being truthful and accept the following.

    Their Members salaries are fifty percent higher than those in the Private sector.
    Irish Nurses salaries are the highest in Europe.
    Irish Doctors salaries are the highest in Europe.
    These salaries are funded by taxation plus borrowed monies.
    Ireland is currently effectively bankrupt.
    Would the Unions wish for the Minister for Finance to increase the tax rate to keep their Members in the style to which they have become accustomed?

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    • Data for your first three claims please. Typing something doesn’t make it true.

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    • yellow, when was the last time you applied for a job? it is there you will get your info, anyone in the private sector whom has taken the redundancy in the last couple years can tell you, if they do get a job it nearly half the salary they were on and an not talking about the big boys here am talking about the ordinary joe soap

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    • …that really doesn’t address my point. You think Irish nurses earn the highest wages in Europe? Show me the evidence. You think unionised nurses earn twice what non-union members earn? Show me the evidence.

      If you want to have a debate about wage levels or unemployment supports or the jobs crisis, great. But I’m tired to death of people peddling bullshit and dressing it up as fact.

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    • I can’t understand why people feel that our nurses, doctors and frontline Public Servants shouldn’t be paid what they get. By and large they earn it. I spoke to a nurse recently and we talked about the various allowences discussed in the media, she felt that the vast majority of these were complete lunacy and laughed at the idea, for instance, of being paid an allowence for eating your lunch at your desk. She reckoned most nurses would be due a small fortune if they were entitled to this. She told me there are many untruths told in the media regarding nurses, for example, normally nurses in the private sector are paid a higher wage than those in the Public Service, and she said it’s not just about money. In the Private Sector if a nurse got even the same wage her job would likely be much less stressful and she’s likely to have the time, and facilities, to do her job properly and it may not involve long night shifts. A frontline nurse in the Public Service has to do long shift hours, cover much more patients in overstretched hospitals with not enough facilities then take abuse for it, when they do earn their wages they’re constantly told they’re overpaid by people who often have little or no experience in with hospitals let alone nursing. Whatever our frontline Public Servants get, they damn well earn. If you don’t like it, try it.

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    • Bang on. I don’t want the nurse giving my kid an injection, or taking care of my grandmother in her last hours, or nursing my brother back to heath after an operation, to be distracted by worrying about where her next rent payment is coming from. We expect the absolute best from them. The least they can expect in return is a decent wage.

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  • As a recently diagnosed type 1 diabetic I have to say the service and support I received in drogheda was first class. I seen first hand some of the crowded conditions they have to work in and how difficult a job theirs is. It certainly gave me a new level of respect for them.

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  • I worked as an agency radiographer in Drogheda for a year, in which time I was payed less than my counterparts and worked longer hours and force to change to a different agency (CPL) by the HSE, who were incompetent at best and take a pay cut. If they lose all their agency staff that’s about one quarter of the radiographers, I know how hard we worked at that staffing level, I shudder to think what it could be like.
    The people making these decisions really are clueless, and my thoughts are with the patients who’ll suffer as a result

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