‘I don’t know’ is genuinely used by those who want to see the poll results but don’t feel informed enough to vote one way or the other.

Well said siobhan. I was begining to feel guilty Spending 180 a week on food and bills, and attempts at finding work. After all is spent im Lucky to have 5 Euro left to save. Technically much of the 180 goes on tax of some sort, i perfer to Shop in local stores to Support the local economy rather than sending it to Aldi. I seriously believe that if welfare payments were stopped overnight this country would come to a complete stop.

I DO NOT RECEIVE STATE WELFARE AND I AM AN OCCUPIER

These ‘innocent traders’ you speak off as the small business people who ripped us off during the boom year and are still driving around in their 2008 Mercs and BMW’s. Don’t buy into the ISME propaganda. My sister got let go from her part time job in a corner shop recently due to ‘cut backs’ but the owner of the place is still driving a merc and sending his kids to private school! People in Ireland need to wake up and stand up to the bourgeoisie class.

They are on the central bank plaza. They are not blocking any entrances or footpaths. Some of the members of the camp happen to be small buisness owers and traders themselves. Previously before the occupy camp was set up you could easily buy heroin from any of the large number of junkies that used to hang around the plaza and I don’t think they were boosting trade in the area.

@Paddy, would you like him to move his children out of their school and sell his car so your sister could keep her job? It sucks she was let go but come on the man isn’t running a charity

Paddy – I think that comment sums you up perfectly. Bitter at everyone else. Funny, the poll now stands at 53% want you gone for good. You’ve made no difference, time to go.
And to the above commenter – you’re now stopping heroine dealers?? Give me a break, that is the stupidest comment I’ve read in a good while.

I cannot believe the sheer IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY of Irish people honestly anyone that is seen to be standing up and voicing their opinion are shot down….Paddy Bebop I totally agree with you 100% its unfortunate that the rest of the ignorant folk disagree I don’t know maybe they are all Fianna Fail supporters.
I have come to the conclusion that Irish people are self-pitying, masochistic martyrs who don’t want change they would rather wallow in their ignorance and misery and attack the Occupy Movement instead of supporting them…they are even too ignorant to see its in their own best interest to support the Occupy Movement rather than attack and mock them…..only in Ireland. Keep up the good work Paddy much respect to you.

What are you talking about? They’re not blocking any traders or access to any shops. I feel much safer in that area now that there is a large alcohol free space instead of the usual gang of junkies that hang around central bank. :|

@paddy
I bet you her job will be advertised on jobs bridge next week!

@Marie – I’m inclined to agree with you. The Irish people obviously don’t give a damn that our country is going down the drain. Most people seem perfectly willing to let things carry on the way they are. They don’t care that the vulnerable are being hung out to dry while the wealthy and powerful line their pockets as usual.
It’s a shame for the small few of us who love our country and who really suffer having to see the rest of them let it go to the dogs.
Our forefathers who fought and died for our country are turning in their graves. If they could see what is happening they would be deeply ashamed.
People go on about how the occupy movement isn’t achieving anything. Instead of criticising, why don’t you do something?? What are you doing that is so much better than what the occupy movement is doing?
Go on, lie down and take it. Ye deserve it if you’re no willing to do something about it.

No one said it was going to be easy. Its like having a daughter and giving up on her after 3 months of Life because you didnt like the way it was going, or you felt dissuaded by political interests. It hasnt been 5 months and you have abandonded her. You decide you couldnt work with people, because it is difficult. We cant all be Radio disc jockeys living in a fantasy world of limitless supplies from african oil fields. Occupy was and never will be Your enemy.

Sure if you had your way Declan there would be no-one left to stand up for the ordinary working class people and the Fine Gael/Berlin right wing autocratic rule would continue unchallenged. STAND UP TO THE BLUESHIRT FASCISM, RISE UP PEOPLE!

Hello, Paddy ! My reply to u seems to have been deleted for some reason. Don’t get me wrong, I am as angry & annoyed as u at what has happened & how our country was totally mismanaged. I too am suffering financially like everyone else for something I did not do. Camping out in Dame St isn’t going to achieve anything. People need to camp out in front of the homes of those who caused this & be very vocal. Now – that’s something. Embarrass them. Take it home to those who mismanaged our country. ( I hope this isn’t deleted, too ). A bunch of middle class wanna b revolutionaries is hardly revolutionary in itself, is it ?!

Well said Declan.
I was involved in the early days of the occupation and their was a lot of hope. ODS fulfilled a need for people to object at the time, but it has made itself irrelevant by inaction. The impetus of the first march was not ceased upon. A lot of time and energy on camp gets sapped from conflicts within the camp and the structures of decision making are such that nothing really gets decided.
It is a shame that it couldn’t have done more, but now, rather than supporting the camp, I oppose it. The camp started as an inspirational place for people of non-political allegiance to join together, but it is petering to nothing.
They can’t even get it together to output any message online. Their Website and Livestream are dead and their Facebook consists of links to stuff other people are doing or have created.
I ask you ODS… what is your purpose?!

Winnie, the ways of doing Business have changed dramatically with the Advent of technology. Why should a senior bondholder be in a Position to make one transaction and make millions, and My son be forced into labour in ten years to protect these millions. Wake up winnie, the risk the average Business Person makes is based in protecting an elite, and if thats the Life you Aspire to go right ahead…it seems you have many associates to rely on in this country. A days work for you is Not a selfless act, and any acturist worth his/her salt would ensure that.

Cupid , nobody is forcing your son do do anything ! You are spewing out anti-capitalist rants and it gets the country no where . There will always be capitalists and im sure you have used them and purchased from them on many occasions . Not all capitalists are bad people and many of them make peoples lives a a lot better. The risk the average business person makes helps to protect him and his family as well as the staff he might pay as well as the elite . Look at the bigger picture for a change .A days work for most people is for two rewards . One is the satisfaction of a good days work and the other is the finacial reward for the hard work . Whats selfish about that ?

Selfless and selfish are different words. A days work is a selfless act, but the work of the Day is a selfish act.

@john.. do some research on fracking or ask someone at the camp if they can explain why they are against it before you ask stupid questions about something you know nothing about.. (ps i believe the message is something about people and the planet over profit.. how can anyone question that..)

The majority of these that are in favour of moving the camp and stoning its residents and followers…are ones that initiated property Investment in ireland during that Boom. They egg on a persuasion, they have comfortable living standards and believe that words alone are enough to outwit their enemies. Believing then that they do good for Community. The occupy movement is Not done. Its transparency of Politik is required for peace. By being against occupy you stand in the way of peace.

Utter nonsense Cupids.
By supporting causes that matter ODS are – at this stage – belittling them. If the “Occupy University” and events had continued as they did the first couple of days, and if the camp had become a more family oriented place you could claim that ODS is for peace.

Instead ODS has become more fringe than it was when it started.

I would say the main message is that we the 99% want jobs, more equal distribution of income, bank reform, and a reduction of the influence of corporations on politics.

Poll seems to say about 70% would like the camp moved. 99% my eye.

And take the rubbish with ye please, so the rest of us don’t have to pay for it to be cleaned up afterwards.

And while we’re at it I’d love to know how many CV’s, job interviews or courses these people have gone for or done while they’ve been camped out there as the “99%”. If my taxes are going towards their job seekers allowance i’d like to think that they’re at least trying to do something

I thought the 99% were taxpayers? If you don’t have a Job then you’re not part of the 99% I’m afraid.

You don’t have to have a job to pay tax Stephen. Have you ever heard of VAT?

@PaddyWop I have been reading these posts in order to help form my opinion, but this 99% you speak of does not seem to exist. By all means post your opinion but please do no skew facts. It makes me disregard your posts.

what a comment joe to say they have probably never worked a day in their lives without any proof whatsoever. you are probably an idiot

Joe: you need to realise there are only two classes of people in irish society and a capitlaist society. Membership in a class is defined by one’s relationship to the means of production, i.e. one’s position in the social structure that characterizes capitalism. The two classes in irish society currently are the proletariat and the bourgeoisie.

Just to spell it out for you in more detail Joe as I get the impression you might need more detail:

- Labour (the proletariat or workers) includes anyone who earns their livelihood by selling their labor power and being paid a wage or salary for their labor time. They have little choice but to work for capital, since they typically have no independent way to survive.
- Capital (the bourgeoisie or capitalists) includes anyone who gets their income not from labor as much as from the surplus value they appropriate from the workers who create wealth. The income of the capitalists, therefore, is based on their exploitation of the workers (proletariat).

99% of us are one, 1% the other. Forget your middle class nonsense. RISE UP AGAINST YOUR OPPRESSORS!

@Paddy – my false consciousness is better than your false consciousness.

*yawn*

Paddy: We live in a capitalist society in Ireland. For the most of us, we’re happy with that. Just because you claim to the majority doesn’t make it so. You are the minority so if you’re not happy with it move somewhere else, I hear Russia and China are good spots for Communism.

@Peter Connolly The privatisation of profit and the socialisation of loss, which is what has happened in this country over the last five years, is NOT capitalism. It is classic fascist economics. Of course this might not be a problem to the majority partner in the governing coalition given their history, but don’t pretend it is capitalism because it is not. Ditto with handing subsidies to multinationals that are not also made available to indigenous businesses.

Actually Peter we haven’t lived in a ‘capitalist’ society for some time now, we live in a corporate society. Instead of posting a wall of text, I’ll just post the main points, if you would like to read further it’s available here: http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/11/explaining-difference-between.html.

Capitalism: is a social system based upon the recognition of individual rights, including private property rights where all goods, both intermediate goods and final goods, are owned privately. The “rights” referred to above are ethical-legal principles that identify and sanction man’s freedom of action strictly within a social context.

Corporatism: is a social system where the government intervenes aggressively into the economy, typically with political instruments that benefit large corporations and enterprises to the detriment of smaller businesses and private citizens. Such instruments include subsidies, tariffs, import quotas, exclusive production privileges such as licenses, anti-trust laws, and compulsory cartelization designs. All involve the initiation of physical force: subsidies come from taxes, tariffs are taxes, import quotas restrict trade, license schemes prohibit non-licensed producers from producing certain goods, anti-trust laws allow competitors to gain or retain market share through legal competition in court, and compulsory cartelization speaks for itself.

Yeah, actually – Adam Smith probably hates us all right now.

Paddy your anti capitalist fool . Go off and play with your Sony laptop , iphone any other product you may have bought . Hypocrite !!!

What the traders did in the past is got up off there ass and made money and employed people . What have occupy done . Sat in a tent and live off the state .

Well said, Nialllateshow. Bored middle class “revolutionaries” in their “capitalist branded” jeans & runners who communicate with each other on “capitalist branded” laptop & iPhones. All to make some sort of apology for being “middle class”. The irony is delicious.

If some are on welfare, they are not shy taking that from the hard pressed taxpaying worker. So much for their “anti capitalist” stance. Never refuse the capitalist Euro.

@James .. LOL, although I do wonder just how many people posting know who Adam Smith was ….

@Sandra – I don’t know exactly, but it seems unpopular to mention his name. The commies mustn’t be quite so learned in economic and political theory (unsurprisingly).

@ James and Sandra : Plenty of people know who Adam Smith was, commies especially. Less of the intellectual snobbery please.

Adam Smith ? ….
Och aye the noo !
Oh btw …I never went to college but I do read a lot !

You should get what you want Val. Lets all do it for val, you just sit back and we will entertain.

As much as I appreciate your interest in my wellbeing, I would prefer if the people done it for themselves. Ourselves.

It is not unique to Dublin, Val. Occupy movements worldwide have been silencing and dismissing opinions that don’t fit in with they want to promote. The Delphi Technique appears to be the way this is being achieved. It doesn’t change my opinion of the individuals involved, but it is taking on the appearance of a very much controlled opposition.

Never heard of The Delphi Technique before Tom! Cheers, going to spend a bit of time reading up on it!

I saw this Consensus Decision making in a number of camps on TV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2yYiULZ0hA . Whatever about the process it makes the people doing it look like total whack jobs. It might stop people shouting over each other like you get in the Dail but I can’t see it being adopted by any National Parliament anytime soon. Like I touched on earlier in a previous post getting the message across is vital and peoples perceptions of a movement are molded by what they see and hear. If you have a camp that looks like a post apocalyptic shanty town occupied by people waving their hands in the air, repeating word for word what a speaker is saying, then that is going to freak out even the most open minded observer! Lob in chem-trails, one world governments and the Illuminati, then you have a rexipe for disastor. Even if the Occupy movement came up with a way to get us out of the mess we are in overnight they would be dismissed out of hand.

I’m afraid the Occupy movement has lost it’s way big time and a good idea has been over taken by the fringe type of people who only alienate joe public. A rethink of how the movement is to go forward will have to be taken so that public support will row in behind them. The message is right but the delivery of it isn’t.

How would you suggest they go about it then?

You Know a Better way Eric then share it, dont keep it all to yourself!

There is no suggestion of cohesion in the question…… “should they pack up?”.
@Cupids Daughter.
How about ODS forming a direct action group.
It could do ‘guerilla gardening’, ‘flash mobs’, ‘cleaning the streets’ protests, Nursing Home Entertainment……. Something that’s positive and gets the objection message out, rather the embedded mentality of a siege.
Have ODS ever discussed potential solutions?
For instance to attempt to set up a parallel economy that revolves around opposition.

I meant coercion *not* cohesion :)

Direct action

Occupy the unions

only 30+% of Irish workers are represented by unions, of this over half are protected by the Croke Park agreement…..this is why there’s no proper backlash.

These unions are clearly co-opted!….just look at the executive pay the bosses receive!

A union for the unemployed & low paid that only pays industrial wage & necessary expenses to its bosses would rattle their cages!

This comment was in reply to a comment by Tom Neville, which has since disappeared. While Tom Neville’s comment might have irritated some, it wasn’t in any way offensive. So why has it been removed?

Some of the people involved in the camp actually have jobs, just as a point of information.

Hmm. I think Goldman Sachs and other Anglo bondholders are probably a bit more of a drain, in fairness.

Part of the reason it hasn’t achieved a lot is that it’s not getting any real coverage so it doesn’t stand out much in public conscience. Being a focal point of the Parade may actually change that.

Also, I do think the occupy movement has succeeded in shifting political discourse somewhat away from the “there is no alternative” attitude towards austerity. A lot of these politicians may be refusing to change their tune, but they’re getting more and more unpopular. Sarkozy and Merkel won’t stand a chance in hell if people wise up to how useless the fiscal compact is, which they largely already have.

AUSTERE = SEVERE, I wonder if people would so readily accept it if they heard the latter word mentioned

By the way it is not a public space. It is owned by the central bank who have stated that they are not going to seek injunctions to move them on.

Who owns the central bank?

Who owns the central bank? That’s a tough question. Getting a straight answer on it from the Central Bank themselves is nigh on impossible. Chances are it is owned by the same crowd who own a state-granted monopoly on the right to print and/or disburse money in almost every other country in the world.

You are missing the point. That’s why the Gards can’t do anything about moving them I as it is not a public place. The central bank wnt ask them to leave in case of looking bad

I’ll defend anyone’s right to protest but they have no right to erect tents on the city streets and make a mess !

@Nialllateshow Perhaps you should file a complaint to the Central Bank then. They own the space and are responsible for what happens there. It’s their tents not the states.

We then why did you get involved in the debate . It bothers people because it’s their city and they might actually have some pride in it when it appears on a world stage on st Patrick’s day .

@Erfantastico
The reason it bothers me is because of the lost potential. A lot more could have been a achieved if people had worked together in a more successful way.
Rather than being intelligent opposition ODS has become senseless opposition, with an aggressive air.

(Let’s just ignore Nialllateshow shall we)

Yes, the whole notion of dividends is based on the notion that profits are shared out among investors. As I am not a shareholder in any bank, I don’t see why I should pay for its losses. Is that concept too difficult to understand?

To the person who has voted me down, can you tell me why I should pay for the gambling debts of privately-owned businesses?

I agree with you Tom that we should not be covering their debts, my point is that if you only put one side of your argument across or spin it in some way you leave yourself open to challenge. By saying that banks don’t share profits it makes that the bank keeps all profits for itself and no one benefits from them. You then waste a whole load of time arguing over profit sharing, dividends etc rather than trying to get your message across. Also a statement like that comes across negatively because it would lead me to believe that the person that put it up there hasn’t a clue about business. That is not to say that some of the occupiers are not very well educated and could easily defend their point it’s just that a slogan like that isn’t helping them. Perhaps a rethink on that sign would help to get the message across better and help their argument from the start.

Tom Sullivan I hope you were not saying that you would like me to be unemployed !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats it thats all you got? And the central banks concept of regulation was a freebe, like a hippo When you opened that First Bank Account. Whats anoying is Your continued protecting of white collar crime by trying to brush this eyesore under the pavement. So we can get back to Business of supporting more white collar crime by way of blackmailing an entire Nation into sending Bond holders on geratric space flights.

Really….. ODS are creating jobs?…. made 2 people happy anyhow.

Yea give them an art’s grant, and make it pity. Because I haven’t seen any tourist take a photo.

Eh… not many trees there… mostly cement.
Stupid comment.

sums up everything right there, the occupy movement is run for the general public by the general public; the general public don’t care so it’s a non-starter.

You niall lack an intelligence that allows you dismember rational. Please, understand that My rants are anything but anti-capitalist. The Elite i refer to are the bankers, druglords, British monarchy, vatican, russian Mafia, pedaphelioa tourists, monopolists, Radio presenters that have been forced into accepting a reality because they must protect the status quo of their profession. Freedom of speach is damaged due to Your “work” niall, you perfer to Live in a society where people are dumbed down so that you can continue to disrupt lives for ‘Radio’. God forbid people might wake up one Day and get rid of comreg, and all the other mechanasim that Ye Elite have in protecting a profession that no more than economics has done its Job. You may as well be reiterating seg heil everxtime you Open Your mouth.

Don’t worry, Kevin. The Shinners will come out in force. Too early yet. I agree with u. They made their point. Move on.

What have YOU achieved in addressing the injustices related to a failed economic system? Do you ever complain about the way things are done? Do you ever do anything about it?

At least the occupy movement is getting us talking about what is and what could be.

Obviously during Your birth. The fact that occupy happened is a success. The fact that people are unwilling to take the time to unterstand the essence of the movement is the success of Propaganda. The fact that we are still dealing with Propaganda in this the 21 centuray, Shows the need for a movement such as occupy. Obviously family guy has hijacked Part of Your intelligence, it is difficult making real Life decisions.

Cupids daughter perhaps if you had actually taken the time to read my post what I said was “this occupy nonsense” not occupy in general, so quit talking about intelligence and maybe use some of it to make your point?

Don’t worry mate, we have thick skins. Tell all the goody two shoes who know better than me, to come down here of a weekend and watch the madness that we have to deal with peacefully from 8pm til 6 and sometimes 7 am in the morning. I personally have saved several people’s lives from drunken fools and what about the Department of Finance lockdown that was not covered on the STATE NEWS CHANNEL.

Well said, Here Here!

When you wake up Eddie and realise that Your way of Life cannot continue, go searching for the camps. They are plenty. Job creation and habitat destruction. Social impacts are yet evident of this economic failure. The occupy camp is showing you something. Wake up Eddie.

The inference in that little rant of yours (expletives and all) is that anyone who protests the way their nation is being robbed blind by a tiny number of ultra-wealthy parasitical families through a distinctly fascist/corporatist socialisation of the losses made by those same parasites is a “socialist”.

Well, I hate to tell you, but there are quite a few libertarians / paleo-capitalists like myself who also find the unprecedented larceny to be utterly objectionable. I don’t agree 100% with the Occupy movement, but I will defend their right to protest, even if they fail to recognise that the problem isn’t entrepreneurs but rather the monetary system that we have had imposed on us for centuries and the rise of mega-corporations that inevitably goes with government interfering in the marketplace.

@Tom.
Definitely they have a right to protest and definitely things are being run for the “wealth creators”.
You & I are likely to agree that the jobs that are so charitably donated by the likes of Eddie are motivated by selfish motives.
The government is trying to tackle people such as those in ODS who are motivated by altruistic motives.

My problem with ODS is that they are not achieving anything. Time to pack up and go home. Loose the battle and not the war… regroup…. do something bleedin’ sensible instead.

The wealth creators are those who produce tangible products that others want, preferably for export. The banks, on the other hand, are not wealth creators but a form of mafia that have inserted themselves and their charges into almost every business transaction, as the mafia would say “a piece of the action”. This applies not only to retail banking, but also to commercial banking and even more so to central banking.

mortgages are not loaned out from depositer’s money they are created, therefore the debt is created and the bank wins every time, check it out, for every £1 in the bank £9 euros is loaned. And us occupiers are the idiots? I think not, we are a lot more informed than you think.

How about we put you on the dole, so you can share in the misfortune of so many others and maybe get a bit of perspective?

Do people seriously believe people are on the dole right now down to their own choice?

I wouldn’t normally wish unemployment on anyone, but in your case I’ll make an exception.

Leigh, if i was on the DOLE i wouldnt sit on DAME street looking like trailer trash im my City ! I have friends and family out of work and they dont sit around a street like those guys in DAME street ! Leigh you are missing the point totally and just having a rant im sure

They are now living a sun cultural lifestyle on the city streets . Let’s all do that and so much will be achieved . Thank god people are waking up to this waste of time . I was there last week and there was two activists and 30 empty tents and one big mess . They have achieved nothing , I’m sorry . So let’s move on .

You should speak this stuff out loud and listen to yourself. Winging about what people have and you haven’t. Ya think the reason for that might be down to the fact that some people got where they are through hard work while you scratched your arse. Here’s an idea, move to North Korea where every one is equal…

Sitting down is the new standing up?

Yeah I must say I visited the camp and spoke to some people and they’re just wasting space and time. Biased, misleading and factually incorrect slogans pasted all over the place and a few 12 year old Emos moved up from Temple Bar to hang about. The fact that the “movement” has been asked to move is the most attention they’ve received thus far. As for the actual question: Who cares…people will still enjoy St Patricks day…and the camp will be flooded and trampled by spectators anyway.

I discussed this on the show on Tuesday night and ran a similar text poll and the results were far more telling . The demograph may have a lot to do with that but our results were 82% for moving them on . It seems bizarre that the Garda and council seem reluctant to enforce the law with these individuals who have turned a wonderful summer meeting place into a tip . I will be negotiating with a skip company on Monday to have the whole lot moved and I will pay for it , so we can return the area back to what it was . We don’t allow and we moan about traveller culture to make a mess and yet we allow this in the centre of the city . We allow a little commune to set up shop and live on the streets and middle of a beautiful , metropolitan street . Other countries have coped on to this waste of time , why not us .

@Nialllateshow: This is how I see it. While other states have decided to remove their occupy camps by force and intimidation often resulting is very negative press, we have allowed them all the space and time they could want, and yet they have made no impact. The majority giving them the silent treatment and largely ignoring them (because we’re more focused on improving things through hard work and democratic participation) has been more powerful than any riot police or tear gas. They’ve been shown to be ineffectual and irrelevant.

So much for the 99%…what a sense of entitlement these people have assuming the title of protector of the downtrodden when they’re as complacent as our previous Govt.. were. Frankly it’s sad…because otherwise I believe activism has a part to play in modern democracy. Theirs is a lazy activism…unworthy of the word.

From what I’ve seen of the occupy movement in Copenhagen their message is far, far too vague, drowned with the noise of other “green” messages to be effective. While I agree with the overall idea, watering down the messages by pushing other agendas along side it (however worthy they may be) undermines the goal of the movement and dilutes it’s potency. Ireland’s going to pass the referendum anyway, time to move on methinks.

Only people? That’s pretty arrogant.

Paddy if you ever worked a day in your life you’d probably realise how hard most business owners have to work to keep afloat. It’s a trade for risk for reward as opposed to a stable wage for work done.

Put down whatever marxist horseshit you’ve read and join the actual world, your ideals are dated and people will rightly laugh at you. Your trouble is your need for recognition and your sad desires to be some sort of revoulutionary (lol) I suppose it’s frustrating when you are so irrelanavt to society. learn a skill, it’s hard work but it always takes that for anything to function. in every aspect of life.

Dead right they should stay and a free float would be brilliant too

It’s also really unfortunate that the poll results are skewed by the occupy supporters putting the link to the poll on all their facebook sites which is the reason why it changed direction towards the end. This happens all the time when we run a text poll on them on radio. They text friends and we get texts an hour after the poll has ended from people have not been listening to the show. This also happens when you run polls on abortion.

Cant believe 245 people actually liked Paddys comment . Just goes to show you why the country is a mess ! Paddy there is a spare tent down there , actually there is loads of spare tents in dames street , why dont you go join them !

God I can’t believe what a bunch of narrow minded losers most of us Irish have become! Can’t people understand what Occupy is trying to achieve?????? We are trying to save the world from the destruction of unbridled capitalism!!

If you don’t agree with the way things are being organized ….get involved you negative unimaginative losers! OCCUPY IS THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN TO IRELAND SINCE THE FOUNDATION OF THE STATE…….what are you going to tell your kids when they ask why they don’t have the same quality of life as you had, when they ask why so many animals have become extinct, why the food chain has become poisoned with GMOs, when they ask why your generation let so many men, women and children die in wars that were totally avoidable and were caused by sheer greed???? Well what are you going to tell them???? “Well Occupy started and we’ll I didn’t like the look of it, I was too busy checking out my shares in Apple and too busy being negative to get involved….sorry!??????”

WAKE UP, GET OFF YOUR ASS, GET INVOLVED AND START BEING CONSTRUCTIVE !!!!!!….selfish, arrogant, lazy…it reminds me of all the business owners that cursed and spat at the leaders of the rebellion in 1916 as they were frog marched through the streets of Dublin after being captured by the British Army……Come On where’s your social Spirit…THE OCCUPY PROTEST MOVEMENT IS ALL ABOUT YOU!

Good point Mr.Lee. I had forgotten about the shop owner who has seen his business decrease by approx 15% since this nonsense started.

cUPIDs dAUGHTeR dO yoU Know that Your cAPs loCk is sTiCkInG?

Apologises I meant owners!

Well thought out Jeff, Your obviously one of these entrepreneurs thats mortgaged Your house to Set up Business because the banks wouldnt give you a loan. I wish you All the success as you contunue in Business in a junk rated economy while you favor water cannons over tear Gas for croud dispersal. Go Jeff. Well done.

Yes, god forbid there be some kind of incident that gives us some kind of power over the powers that be.

Like an election?

If these were the actual bankers and politions that caused the state of play we are in by Your Standards you would be giving them head.

What good did the last election do? Whatever happened to Varadkar’s “not one cent more”? What happened to Labour’s anti-bondholder rhetoric? When a government is elected on certain promises and then reneges on them, then exactly how does that give the people power over the powers that be?

Bring over som Newyork Cops to move them on !!!! Pepper spray and Batons at Dawn

The journal.ie have become rather zealous at deleting comments of late, Orly. Wonder why are we asked to comment in the 1st place. Whatever one’s opinion, we are entitled to air it in a free country.

I find it strange the way comments agains the occupy have been removed but hey , who am I to suggest a conspiracy !

I posted a couple of times on the thread , with no defamation , discrimination or otherwise remarks , yet the postings are removed because they don’t favour the individuals living the sub cultural lifestyle on the streets of our cities .

You & I have the same constitutional right , which is being denied by the permanent camp at Dame st.

If I want to have a protest at the central bank plaza do you think that oDs would let me?
Maybe if it towed their “party line “but I doubt it .

Never in the field of human discourse have so many metaphors said so little in such a circuitous manner

Well begorah, that’s a great idea! Seriously though, you might be on to something there, provided the Central Bank was flattened at the same time. We need rid of privately-run central banks issuing currency for profit, currency that is only given value by the fact that we are forced to use it (legal tender legislation) and forced to pay tax as “interest” to pay for what must be the most expensive printing service ever.

Well said Alan Carroll !!!!!!!

Less than half are in favour of it being dismantled, which is hardly disappointing. I do wish they would step up the quantity and quality of the information they put out though. They could also do more to dispel the perception that the Occupy movement is little more than bongo-bashing dreadlocked types.

get some New York cops over to move the on USA style !! pepper spray and Battons at Dawn

Yes i Know, its Part of an austerity Feature they are trialling on My phone. ( this is what Ye Call entrpreneur) i get Free calls to any network, the company feel that if capitol letters are randomly used it has the effect of excess and will go towards making austerity eassier to cope with.

his business was failing before we CAME ALONG (for three years in fact, we have seen his books). Now with the publicity, his shop is always full. So now he can pay more taxes to the IMF how ironic. p.s. im an occupier who has worked all his life and this is not just about ireland, its about the whole world. The environment is being constrained because of money, we need to act 20 years ago not now or in the future.

the journal is doing you a favour niall if they are removing some of comments because you are talking nonsense

Hey Fhat, i am a working class Irish man please dont speak like Brian Cowan did (bullshit)

Someone told me just last night that the queen of England owns lots of land and that’s why she came to visit, because if she didn’t (not sure of the time frame) the land would be passed back. I don’t know if this is true or not. Interesting though.

Utter nonsense – these ‘I heard somewhere from a guy who knows this one whose auntie had a chat with her friend Mary’ comments have no back-up and that’s why half the country believed that the Dept. of Social and Family Affairs gave African immigrants free buggies to leave at bus stops and free cars.

How do you know it’s utter nonsense? I said I don’t know if it’s true or not, so whats your major malfunction?

Please don’t use my post to drag up asylum seekers and their buggies. I’m not affiliated with your thoughts at all.

@Gill: I wasn’t using your comment to bring up that particular issue. Rather I was trying to demonstrate the dangers of hearsay evidence. I acknowledge that you said you didn’t know if what you heard was true or not – nevertheless the first commenter did not do likewise.

Please don’t use your replies to my comments to try and distort the point I was trying to make. Indeed, I could ask what’s your malfunction.

Regards

Download the latest version of the app. That particular glitch has been ironed out!

I bet you haven’t the guts to say anything like that about any other race/nation/ethnic group

Chuck Farrelly not talking about any other race, the political neanderthals that have commented with such vile disrespect about their fellow irish men and women, that particular person usually fits the discription of a THICK WHITE FAT IRISH, sorry if this offends and makes you sick, reality in Ireland can be very testing