Don’t you know.
The government is too busy, spending money putting Quinn employees on the dole

Hello Spruiker,

I think you’ll find that Sean Quinn put his employees on the dole by gambling his company’s assets on bank shares.

Tom
I think you’ll find that IBRC’s, incompetent,tax payer funded,expensive receiver
(the one that maintained that no job would be lost)
has put Quinn employees on the dole.
Ask a few of them?

But whats new?
Ask any of the Irish businesses, that have been put to the wall lately, what roll the government has played in their demise?

Yeap. Everyone else’s fault.

There just facts Tom.
There’s no blame here.

Business people build businesses and employment.

Receivers liquidate businesses and employment.

Our well paid Government,regulators and senior civil servants?
well they’re ”supposed” to make sure everything runs smoothly, aren’t they?

So,

A guy runs his company into the ground by illegally gamblnig his company’s assets (remember he didn’t have board approval) on bank shares in a quasi ponzi scheme….and it’s the fault of the other guys who didn’t catch him?

So any Irish person with operations abroad should lose their citizenship and possessions in Ireland if they become bankrupt in another state?

I thought we were past the age of stupid laws…

He didn’t “go” bankrupt in another state David, he sought it to evade his responsibilities here.

I wish my suit was back from the dry cleaners.

Snazzy

Tony,

Do you honestly expect them to solve a multi-billion euro crisis in 12 months?

well at the push of a button Enda was able to pay out over a BILLION of OUR MONEY…. so get a grip tom….
i would love to know how many times we have heard Fianna Fail come out of Enda’s mouth…. if that was changed to “the solution” to this problem is……. maybe we might get somewhere…..

@Tom
No tom I will never expect them to solve this multi-billion bailout problem they inherited but anyway staying on the priory hall subject, even a visit from a government minster would go a long way of support for these families that want nothing but justice and a home to live in.

As what frank said above my comment,why is no accountable and arrests I sometimes wonder is there diplomatic immunity for every developer and banker in this country or nobody has the balls to arrest these guys?

Eugene,

The developer has been taken to court…and has flaunted the court order to make reparations. I agree that this must be solved, but Tony’s implication that FG should be able to able to resolve a multi-billion euro mess in 12 months is simply unrealistic. I know Tony has FF leanings and will do anything to blame someone else for FFs mess.

Kop,
You might have missed the entire ECB dictating that unguaranteed bondholders get repaid or we wouldn’t get favourable terms in our bailout. But that’s a story for another day. But if you want a quick summation, JC Trichet said “No Bank defaults, that’s the bottom line” and then the bailout negotiations started. Did Brian Lenihan negotitate a good interest rate? Could have been better. Did Trichet make repayment of all bondholders a condition of the bailout? Yes. You might want to read up a little first my friend.

well i certainly didn’t miss the whole….NOT ONE RED CENT MORE!…..
maybe you should get a job as a government advisor…..sure you have enough of them in your friends list….im sure they could fix you up with a nice little number…..since your so far up there arses anyway… in case you haven’t noticed there isn’t much love on here for your leader or his cronies…..might have something to do with the many pre election promises we were given… that might as well have been written on a bit of toilet paper at this stage

The Kop,

I have noticed a certain amount of trolling from five individuals.

However I would take opinion polls and election results as a better indication of government support than the antics of five die hard keyboard warriors. :)

Agreed Tom…..
i guess if we do have a referendum then we might get some indication….
of course the referendum is about europe…but im sure people will and rightly so use it to show the government what it’s thinks of its tenure so far…..
oh no sorry…..wait….sure didn’t the government make sure that the changes to the fiscal pact had better make sure that the people of Ireland don’t get to have their say……
sorry tom couldn’t resist….

@Tom – your party is as morally bankrupt as the last shower. Cut from the same cloth

@ Tom…prehaps not…but remember FG sat across from Cowen, Aheren and Co for nigh on 14 years and kept a very quiet watch on what unfolded. The way they have dealt with the ‘beloved’ Troika is as close to treason as can be experienced…’not nother cent to the banks’ etc etc…had we known they were lying wholesale through their teeth I doubt they’d be in the position to crying wolf.

Tony,

In one breath you accept that they inherited a multi billion euro and in another you say that they cannot blame it on what they inherited.

I never doubted they inherited the problem Tom…what I am saying there is only so long they can use the previous administration as a sheild.

And that timescale for solving the problem, that multi-billion euro bomb is strictly 12 months?

absolutely correct

just goes to show what a shower of muppets ends and Co are

IRA man runs to the British Courts for protection against the Irish people he screwed!

Just how nationalist was this guy when push came to shove? When it affected his pocket, he screwed as many Irish as he could. That’s the IRA for you.

So the actions of one man defines an entire organisation Tom, does it? I’m no IRA sympathiser but he is Irish too, so by your logic, that’s the Irish for you. Stupid comment.

My sympathies are with the residents of Priory Hall, not the IRA property developer who used the UK courts against the Irish.

Well said Franco.. The residents are not in court and nothing is stopping Kenny from sorting out this nightmare we live in every day..

@Tom – stop deflecting and reframing the argument. We’re talking about FG not the IRA. So drop the straw man tactic

Paul, we’re talking about Priory Hall why the residents deserve reparation from the developer.

But interesting to see where your focus lies.

More deflection Tom. You’ve trained well. We’re talking about FG and how they keep blaming everything on the previous shower. Time to man up. Only 12 months in power an more broken promises than a second hand car salesman. But please….continue to deflect and defend the indefensible…..

Ah Paul, another who expects a quick fix of a multi-billion euro problem in 12 months. It ain’t gonna happen. It will take years to fix the country.

He did say that it was absolutely outrageous that priory hall was built in the first place. Since there’s a court case pending on this, I think that was about as far as he could have gone with his comments.

But you hated Enda anyway so this was your chance just to slander him some more. Whatever floats your boat man

Its true david, can’t be slander if its true. Unfortunately spouting on about who is to blame doesn’t sort the problem out.

not at all David…. i did actually have a bit of hope that Enda might be different and actually change things…god knows we heard enough to convince us before the elections…..but i am tired now of the constant harping back to the last crowd of wasters we had…. standing in the dail and answering questions with the same line that we inherited this from the previous government is not getting us anywhere…and really that is not what people want to hear…..as Niamh says….its not slander…..it’s true!

So far my own experience of “Kop” is that he cannot construct a sentence without using the works “arse” or “shite” and has now learnt a new word “moron”. He’s like Fr. Jack Hackett from Fr. Ted.

here’s another one for you Tom….. MUPPET….. and you can decide whether it’s Enda or yourself i’m talking about…

Well Kop my old friend,

I don’t mind whom you call what. It’s not as if you can actually articulate criticism. :)

@David, Enda was the opposition leader when all this was going on & did sweet fukc all because he was too bothered watching his own party members trying to shaft him…..Mick Martin calls for a ‘creative solution’ what does he want them do thatch the bloody roof or paint a few murals over the cracks ? they are a pair of tools that couldn’t give a toss about the residents of priory hall.

I love this reasoning that somehow opposition leaders have the same info and power as the Taoiseach and that somehow Enda bears responsibility for decisions taken by the previous governments. You’d think Enda had been Taoiseach for the last 14 years with the way some people comment here.

Dave, nothing more certain than the usual trolls saying it was FGs fault for not being in power. As predictable as gravity.

What should he do? Fix the apartments? Get them rebuild? That is what I would suggest but this is only the tip of the iceberg. I rent a house that was built in the last 8 years, which is not insulated. How crazy is that….a new house without proper insulation? And I don’t mean that the work was shabby… there are just massive sections of insulation missing. I figured it out (not that hard really… the house was freezing and it was only -5 outside), the landlord didn’t believe me since he paid for an insulated house off the plans, but he eventually got it checked and what do you know all the cavities in the back and side walls of the house downstairs are empty. The builders insulated upstairs and the front but didn’t finish the job. That builder should have been bonded and if the job was not finished his bond should pay for fixing the situation. There are so many of these situations. Priory Hall is just the tip of the iceberg.

Adam,

This is not a second hand car with a dodgy clutch. This is a multi-billion euro abbyss.

An abyss could be fun with good leadership?

Tom – read the red thumbs – they’re telling you something – if you care to listen that is…..

Paul, I have 42 greens and 16 reds fir my ira comment and 50 greens and 6 reds for my sean quinn comment…..but i don’t pay attention to keyboard warriors.

Btw the elections are a better guage of public opinion.

Lynton
100% on the button.
That is where it’s at..
It is actually that cut and dry..
I hasten to add though that the trail will lead all they way back to the county council and by default to political figures in office..
They will brazen it out until they cant any more and then try bury it in a load of spin..
Just watch this unfold ???

You’d want to ask the Priory Hall residents themselves what they think of the contact instead of making your own presumptions.

And your argument about Enda Kenny is flawed for a number of reasons. Are you suggesting that should Enda’s family have to leave their home that the state would intervene as a special case and buy them a new home?

I very much doubt that would happen.

In any case you’re not comparing like with like because they don’t live in an apartment block, I presume it’s a house somewhere in Mayo. It’s likely that the house is there for some time and any damage wouldn’t be the direct result of bad building or planning.

Enda’s family would be left to their own means in such a situation.

In contrast Priory Hall residents are being accommodated and rightly so.

But isn’t it the court cases that are
causing the delays and uncertainty?

I’m curious to know what exactly the government can do in this situation?

Lend the management co an interest free loan to fix the apartments might be one idea???

Kop,

Not sure how good you are with counting (must be in SF or FF) but I my Sean Quinn comment is 67-8 Green to Red and my IRA comment was 53-25 Green to Red….but I really don’t pay too much attention to what keyboard warriors say, thumbs up or down, especially if they are not man enough to put their name to their comments. :)

And I think the real world electorate is a better judge of things than guys who stay up all night posting online. But if I’m wrong the thumbs are in my favour anyway. :)

interesting that you say you dont pay attention to the thumbs up / thumbs down element….and yet you took the time to go and count anyway…..and even funnier is the fact that you chose to ignore the many comments where sadly for you and your fine gael infested little brain where you lag way behind in the green thumbs department….but hey as you say sure who’s counting anyway…..
and just to finish your right in saying the real world electorate are a better judge…..94% haven’t paid little Enda’s /////Phil’s household charge yet…..hmmm i wonder what that say’s……

Just counted so I could contradict you. :)

Well Tom, I’m going to try my very very best to think like you. I know i can do it if I try really really hard. In fact I am going to commence with that self appointed task directly.

Your absolutely right. Where would Ireland be without the censorship of outrageous expression. Yes, what we need is a rather large shovel with which to dig a more apathetic living space in which we can exist happily together with the many other righteous and moderate souls that shape our great nation. Contentedly Insulated, safe and secure from those who can do little more than lose their marbles at the maniacal mismanagement of our economy.

Sorry Tom, can’t do it. I have a splitting headache now. The milk is spilt and I can’t help crying like a baby.

No one is listening any more. Just glad that your obscene rant has been deleted.