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Column: A ‘Yes’ vote on Oireachtas inquiries will bring us a vital democratic function

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ON THE DAY of the upcoming presidential election, voters will also be asked to pass two constitutional amendments: one on judicial pensions, and one on Oireachtas inquiries.

The amendment on Oireachtas inquiries arose as a result of a Supreme Court case decided in 2002 known as the Abbeylara decision. After John Carthy was fatally shot by gardaí on 20 April 2000, the Oireachtas appointed a Special Committee to investigate the incident. However, the gardaí whose actions were under investigation brought a court case which challenged the constitutionality of the committee’s actions.

The courts found against the government on a number of issues including: (1) the Oireachtas had no power to investigate specific incidents involving individuals who were not members of the Oireachtas; (2) the conduct of the Oireachtas in investigating the incident had breached the right to fair procedures; and (3) an individual had a right to a good name which had been breached.

The current amendment is designed to roll back the Abbeylara decision. There are three separate sections to the amendment:

Each House shall have the power to conduct an inquiry, or an inquiry with the other House, in a manner provided for by law, into any matter stated by the House or Houses concerned to be of general public importance.

In the course of any such inquiry the conduct of any person (whether or not a member of either House) may be investigated and the House or Houses concerned may make findings in respect of the conduct of that person concerning the matter to which the inquiry relates.

It shall be for the House or Houses concerned to determine, with due regard to the principles of fair procedures, the appropriate balance between the rights of persons and the public interest for the purposes of ensuring an effective inquiry into any matter to which subsection 2 applies.

The first two sections have not generated much controversy, as they effectively overrule the first limb of the Abbeylara decision. The controversy has surrounded the final clause. As can be seen, the right specifically guarantees the ‘principle of fair procedures’. This has been inserted as a result of public opposition to the original draft (which had no such guarantee) and ensures the decisions are judicially reviewable on procedural grounds. This would protect the right to a fair unbiased hearing, and meets the second limb of the Abbeylara decision.

The problem occurs with the third limb of Abbeylara. The proposed amendment suggests that it is the Oireachtas, rather than the courts, who are to balance the rights of the individual against the public good. It is this element of the amendment which has attracted criticism from legal commentators.

‘The Irish parliament is virtually alone in not having these powers’

The first point to note in relation to constitutional amendment is that commentators are almost universally united in agreeing that, in principle, the Oireachtas should have an investigative power. The Irish parliament is virtually alone in not having such a power as a result of the Abbeylara decision. It deprives the Parliament of an important function in a democratic society.

For example, in the UK at the moment, a parliamentary enquiry is responsible for investigating the phone-hacking scandal in the News of the World. Ireland has a need for similar mechanisms. For example, there has never been a public investigation into the banking scandal. After all of the public money spent on bailing out the banking system, surely the citizen has a right to know how the crisis came about.

On the other hand, there is the danger that individual’s reputations could become the playthings of grandstanding politicians. The Abbeylara decision itself provides evidence of this; during the controversy, the committee briefed journalists on an on-going investigation.

I believe that the third paragraph is necessary because it prevents obstructionist tactics by individuals who wish to preserve secrecy around decisions with public consequences. Imagine for a moment that the amendment allowed individuals to go to court to protect their rights. Anyone who wished to avoid an uncomfortable finding would simply delay before the Oireachtas committee, and then launch the torpedo of judicial proceedings before the report could be issued. Managed correctly, this would mean that the Oireachtas would dissolve before a report could be issued.

‘Don’t let the best be the enemy of the good’

This would ensure that any actions would be immune from public scrutiny unless they were the subject of a civil or criminal action. Not every incident which has public implications will meet this test.

Furthermore, an individual is not without judicial protection even if this amendment passes. First, the judiciary can still provide guidance on procedural rights. Secondly, the European Convention on Human Rights would still apply to individuals. This document provides similar guarantees to the Irish Constitution. The primary difference between this form of European protection and the current Irish scheme is that an adverse finding under the European Convention would not strike down the legislation entirely, which would mean that the committee could continue with its inquiry.

This would remove the incentive for individuals to try and obstruct the proceedings, but still provide a safeguard to individuals who were concerned with the violation of their rights.

In deciding which way to vote on a constitutional amendment, voters must make up their own minds on whether the balance struck under the proposed amendment is desirable. For the reasons I have given, I lean towards voting in favour. There are also strong arguments against, and it falls on the individual to decide which arguments are more convincing.

One suggestion: don’t let the best be the enemy of the good. A constitutional amendment shouldn’t be judged on the basis of whether it is perfect, simply on whether it is an improvement.

Dr Donal K Coffey is a lecturer in constitutional law in the University of Portsmouth, and recently completed his PhD on Irish constitutional history.

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Comments (36 Comments)

  • Mark Dennehy 23/10/11 #
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    We’re also alone in having parliamentarians of the caliber of Jackie Healy Rae, Willie O’Dea, Bertie Ahern, Micheal Lowry and so on.

    I can’t help but think that not having parliamentary inquiries is a good thing when seen in that light…

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    • Conor Murphy 23/10/11 #
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      Nonsense, every country has sihtheads in government and opposition. For our Jackie Healy-Rae England has their Borris Johnson.
      For our Bertie Ahern/Michael Lowry England AND Italy have most of their Parliament (Expenses vs Berlisoni still being in power)
      And for Willie O’Dea… kinda stuck on that one.

      But don’t just read tabloid headlines and try to get a bit of perspective, we live in a country where our government has failed our hopes beyond any nightmare scenario but they did this by doing exactly what we kept voting them back in their for, nothing. No country is perfect, in fact all countries are pretty rubbish but I don’t think ours are violently worse than the world at large.

      (Act being a Fine Gael hater I’m pleasantly surprised by the governments general performance but I think that might just be comparative to the Fianna Fails mushroom cloud I grew up under).

    • BJ 23/10/11 #
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      Should people’s name be dragged through the mud by politicians simply because they can’t find any criminal or civil laws to prosecute them under?

    • Sean O'Keeffe 23/10/11 #
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      Former A.G & Minister for Justice, Michael McDowell, is advocating a NO vote and believes powers established would be on the “Christmas wish-list of the Stasi”.
      http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/vote-no-to-inquiry-powers-while-we-can-2914275.html

  • Evert Bopp 23/10/11 #
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    Both referenda is passed will give the government more & further reaching powers. We do not need further reaching powers for Oireachtas inquiries. We alread y have courts. If laws are broken than this should be proven, judged & sentence passed in the courts.
    The second referenda is not solely for reducing judges pay (althought he government is actively spreading this misinformation). If it receives a “yes” vote it will give the government increased influence over judges overal.

    So there you got, 2 referenda; one to pull power out of the courts into the domain of the Oireachtas and a 2nd referenda giving the Oireachtas more control over the judiciary. Both reducing democracy and accountability.

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    • Ballyer Rules 23/10/11 #
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      Michael mc dowell and his PD party of free rain capitalism are largely responsible for the mess were in. Does low personal taxation, high indirect taxation and light market regulation ring a bell?

    • Evert Bopp 23/10/11 #
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      And what relevance does that have to my argument?

    • Rick Wilbrink 24/10/11 #
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      I agree with you there Evert. This should be a total NO vote. As far as democracy and accountability… well I think they are non existent in this country. If there WAS a democracy the Lisbon Treaty would not have been voted in. If there WAS accountability Anglo leaders would have been locked up and their money redistributed into society.

      If there was no Lisbon treaty WE would not have to think about the two referenda, as everything would be handled properly. There is already to much influence of politics in law. And it is all NOT in our favour, no matter what the “leaders” want to make us believe…

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    Ba mhaith liom a bheith vótáil “Tá”.

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  • Dearbhla Carmody 23/10/11 #
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    After the Abbeylara enquiry the courts found that the Oireachtas had breached the right to fair procedure. In response our goverment want us to vote to change our constitution in favour of giving them more opportunity to breach our right to fair procedure. Astonishing, they must think we are really stupid. NO NO NO NO

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  • Neil 23/10/11 #
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    Yes, this is definitely an improvement in my view. We should have the same style of panels that they have in the Senate and House in the US. People were crying out for that in the aftermath of the Anglo debacle.

    Obviously many of the country’s lawyers are against this as they want the money orgy of tribunals. And obviously many are against this because they are against anything this government does, right or wrong.

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    • Sean 23/10/11 #
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      Neil can I ask you rationale for thinking there’ll be less tribunals if this referendum is carried?

      I would also says it’s a bit misleading to say only lawyers and naysayers want a no vote, it’s not a substantive argument in my POV

    • RDX862 23/10/11 #
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      Will you be forced to answer questions or is their something similar to “pleading the fifth” that they use in America to not answer questions in front of committees.

    • Sean 23/10/11 #
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      You may be required to attend and answer questions by compulsion (we can assume that the committee will have powers of imprisonment for contempt of court).

      Every modern court in the world has something like the fifth amendment, it is the rule that you cannot be forced to answer a question that would imply your own guilt, this part of the doctrine of innocent until proven guilty.

      One of the problems in this case is that there is a possibility that these committees can ask whoever they like any question they like in public in an accusatory manner, by that stage the damage to a persons life could already be done regardless of the answer

    • Sean O'Keeffe 23/10/11 #
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      The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government – lest it come to dominate our lives and interests. – Patrick Henry

    • BJ 23/10/11 #
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      No Neil, so many of the lawyers are against this proposal because they understand the law and are fearful of it being administered by politicians who don’t!

    • John F Quirke 29/10/11 #
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      Yes and the US must be so proud
      Of their inquiries which enabled them to terrorise those evil communists in the 1950s . Now we will be able to persecute any group or individual whose views our government doesn’t agree with. By the way this referendum has nothing whatsoever to do with lawyers or Tribunals, as their are other obvious independent alternatives. This shoddy minister a lawyer is knowingly using the publics dislike of lawyers to dupe them.

  • Dermot Sheehan 23/10/11 #
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    So the constitution wont protect us but the convention on human rights will? right, despite the fact the european convention on human rights act 2003 doesnt apply too the oireachtas. I suppose we could complain to strasbourg who will uphold an inquiry since it doesnt engage article 6 rights since there is no criminal liability nor determination of civil rights involved.

    Cold comfort to those whose reputations are dragged through the muck. The Abbeylara case is a classic example of why such inquiries are unfair. Gardai shoot an armed/dangerous man whose family agitate for an inquiry. A committee of TDs then decides to haul the gardai in and determine if the shooting was lawful. A bunch of vote seeking TDs pandering to electoral interests willing to wreck reputations and careers with no safeguards save as the TDs themselves determine. And now those who are currently out of favour with society can be denied the right to cross examine witnesses, being accused by anonymous accusers, while the TDs acting as the spear point of an angry mob subject them to questionin upon pain of prison.

    This power does exist in westminster since parliament there is soverign. It is however rarely exercised and for good reason.

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  • Mannix Flynn 23/10/11 #
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    Where is Dana now with all her hullabelluu about protecting the constitution and the people of Ireland. These two amendments to the constitution are a slap in the face to the Irish people by an arrogant over subscribed majority rule Government. I will be voting NO NO.

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  • Sean 23/10/11 #
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    Certainly a well written article and it doesn’t depend on the stereotypical arguments for the yes votes such as reduced fees for tribunal lawyers (no reason to believe this will be the case) and a populist sentiment toward investigating the banks (which I would agree with but not in this guise). I would disagree on a number of points however.

    Firstly it is not only on the third paragraph that people are concerned. First paragraph; there is no guarantee that these inquiries will be made public, there is no definition of what is of public importance (comparisons to Robespierres “general will” and McCarthys “patriotism” abound) so it is potentially open to the executive to abuse it by investigating things they really shouldn’t be such the free press or public forums such as this. There should be a requirement for qualified majority of the Dail to support a committee with these powers. The committee itself is not described, leading to the fact that it could be constituted by anyone, including solely members of the leading party at the time.

    In terms of being subject to judicial oversight by the Irish courts and the ECHR this is not comprehensive. Even Dr Bryan McMahon says it is NOT CLEAR how the courts will interact with these inquiries in terms of appeals, concurrent inquiries to criminal trials on going etc.

    Saying that individuals rights will be fully protected by fair procedures (as you say not originally put in) is not sufficient. These inquiries will be required to treat those “accused” fairly but still investigate completely unwarranted partisan issues and persons, also as I stated earlier, one could be treated fairly in private or have their house searched fairly aswell, but those decisions would be subject to the committee involved. People can use their common sense, “fair treatment” (as was lacking in Abbeylara, re Haughey and Ivor Callelys case is a broad term and these committees could be at either end of that broad spectrum, let’s not forget a high court/supreme court action would be necessary to enforce them. Judicial fair procedures, whilst avoiding miscarriages of justice, are not a complete safeguard to the abuse of this regime.

    Sorry re long post…

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  • Brendan Palmer 23/10/11 #
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    I believe that the vast majority of members of both houses are genuine and honest in their attempts to fix the consequences of the Abbeylara decision but, let’s have a look at another scenario, how would this amendment affect us if there was a more sinister person or organisation leading a large majority in one of the Houses. It is not so long ago that we had a party leader whose only ambition was to lead a single party majority in the Dail and then run the place as his own little fiefdom.(not Bertie) Someone like that with this amendment in his arsenal could have a dictatorship organised in no time.

    The members of the houses should remember that not all people do things for the benefit of the greater good and unfortunately, the ones who could benefit from this clause in our constitution are likely to be aggressively ambitious enough to get themselves into a position of power, from where they could use it.

    We do need to allow the Dail have some form of investigative powers but while this amendment may help fix the current issue, I think that the potential for abuse further down the line far outweighs any benefit of inserting it into the constitution in its current format. It confers far too wide ranging powers on the Houses of the Oireachtas including the Senate, which is not even elected by the general population.

    I believe we should vote no on this one and tell the Government to go back to the drawing board

    At least then we would get an opportunity to vote on a good amendment to the constitution, if we find out later that we made a mistake, the abuser would never let us have a referendum to change it.

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  • Paul Hennessy 23/10/11 #
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    No..……
    No…….

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  • James Pelow 23/10/11 #
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    Nonsense.

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  • Adam Magari 23/10/11 #
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    The current tribunals, when they have run their course and all third party costs are in, may leave the taxpayer with a grand bill of up to 1.5 billion.- a mini bailout sized sum and hefty slice of the current budget deficit. That system is not sustainable. Any reasonable reform that pulls that gravy train off the rails is welcome in my book.

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  • John O'Brien 23/10/11 #
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    We have got to say no to this proposal, for all the reasons mentioned, I am almost frightened to think that we would be handing judiciary powers to the populist vote. Our political architecture just is not mature enough for these powers, great post Brendan, completely agree!

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  • Frank2521 23/10/11 #
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    Vote no – please.
    Imagine the Healy Rea’s heading an inquiry into a member if the public stealing or cheating the tax payer out of money.
    The idea the likes of Callaly might end up investigating people for fraud is simply too much to take.
    Then again if Bertie were to be head of an inquiry it would be time to give up.

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  • Mark Rodgers 24/10/11 #
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    Could all of those opposed to this referendum while also earning a living as a solicitor or barrister please declare themselves!

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  • Paige C Harrison 24/10/11 #
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    Nicely written article which avoids the ‘Yes campaign’ scaremongering. However, and despite finding myself in agreement with Michael McD, I see no compelling reason for shifting balance of power to Oireachtas and have no confidence that if they were to have investigative powers they would use these wisely.

    Clearly our politicians don’t know much about fair procedure or indeed investigation. They made a complete mess of the investigation of Ivor C who afterall broke their rules.

    I find the comments here more persuasive (although greatly appreciate the article) and so will be voting No to both.

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  • Eugene O'Leary 24/10/11 #
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    Who do you think is more qualified to carry out an investigation: an experienced judge or a T.D. of the calibre of Jackie Healy-Rae? I’m voting for the status quo!

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  • Bealach Nua 24/10/11 #
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    There is solid and clear information on http://www.paw.ie it lays out the history of the bills through the debates and amendments stages in both the Oireachtas and the Seanad as well as giving a clear explanation why a NO vote is so important.

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  • Eamonn Lannoye 24/10/11 #
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    What a load of nonsense. It is presented by the government and Dr. Coffey that its got to be this or nothing. Accept the status quo, or go with this progressive, yet fundamentally flawed amendment. What about a proper amendment that lays out in full the limits of such inquiries and the rights afforded to the person appearing before them? This false dichotomy only serves politicians in the end. Weak argument, vote no.

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  • Adrian Martyn 24/10/11 #
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    If you think you fully understand the wording and all the implications, vote yes.

    If, like me, you’re not sure – or don’t know – vote no.

    Simple.

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