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Column 'Self-employed people need a safety net too'

Patricia Callan of the Small Firms Association says in order to encourage entrepreneurs, self-employed people should get as much protection as their employees if a business fails.

Director of the Small Firms Association Patricia Callan argues that if you want to get more people to take the risk of starting up businesses you have to ensure there is a safety net for those that take the risk.

AT A TIME when we should be encouraging more people to take risks and create employment for themselves, through setting up a business or becoming self-employed, we find increasingly that the lack of a social welfare safety net acts as a disincentive to work.

For those who were already self-employed or directors of small businesses, and have gone under during the recession, we have heard truly terrible stories of losing everything, with very little support from the state.

‘Business owners willing to pay additional PRSI should be allowed to do so’

In its pre-Budget 2012 submission meeting with Minister for Finance Michael Noonan, the SFA delegation argued that those business owners who are willing to pay a voluntary additional PRSI payment, should be allowed do so, in order that they may qualify for all social welfare benefits as their employees do.

This proposal has been positively received and is the subject of ongoing review by the Department of Social Protection’s “Advisory Group on Tax & Social Insurance”.

Clearly this development will not have an impact on those people who are currently unemployed, who were previously self-employed, and this issue must separately be tackled by the social assistance system.

At present self-employed people pay PRSI Class S which provides cover for:

  • Widow’s and Widower’s (Contributory) Pension
  • Guardian’s Payment (Contributory)
  • State Pension (Contributory)
  • Maternity Benefit
  • Adoptive Benefit
  • Bereavement Grant

Our recommendation is that a variation on PRSI Class A could be used to facilitate self-employed people to make a combined contribution for themselves both as an employer and an employee.

It is critically important that this is done on a voluntary basis as many of those already in business may not have the necessary funds to contribute currently as they are struggling to survive in business.  It cannot be viewed as an opportunity to impose an additional tax on small business.

‘Other countries have a voluntary opt-in for self-employed people’

There are examples of voluntary opt-in for self-employed in other countries.  In the USA for example both the employed and the self-employed pay a ‘Social Security tax’. In general the self-employed pay twice what the employer pays for an employee with some exemptions.

Amongst these exemptions is a 2% lower rate for people trying to secure /create employment through self-employment in the current crisis. In many European countries, self-employed people opt-in to the social insurance scheme; with their rates / taxes varying depending on the nature of their business.

For example, in France the self-employed can pay up to 45% of their net income which covers a range of benefits including family; health; illness; and pensions. However, there are exemptions including unemployed people starting up a business; and there is a different approach for micro-enterprises where the tax is calculated on a % of their turn-over.

PRSI Class A is currently broken into sub-classes depending on the employee’s income. The employer’s contribution varies depending on the employee’s classification and on the reckonable pay which is different for employees and employers.

One avenue open to the Government is to allow the self-employed to opt into Class A and the PRSI payment they make then depends on the level of income they receive as an employee and the relating employers PRSI contribution.

Alternatively the Government could decide to create a new sub-class to Class A specifically for the self-employed.

‘We are relying on more entrepreneurial people to set up businesses and take a risk’

There are 200,000 small businesses in Ireland employing 655,000 employees (half the private sector workforce).  In order to solve our unemployment problem, we are relying on more entrepreneurial people to set up and take the risk.

It is only reasonable that they are afforded an equal level of protection as their employees in the event of business failure.  This will encourage more people to step onto the ladder of creating a job for themselves.  This is vital to our economic recovery.

Patricia Callan is the Director of the Small Firms Association.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 10:01 AM

    Seriously, what are the chances of an Irish phone provider offering any of those prices?

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    Feb 24th 2014, 10:06 AM

    The same chance of an Irish phone provider offering value on anything.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 11:20 AM

    This is the American influence at work now in Nokia. Cheap n nasty handsets to make more big profits for Microsoft .

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    Feb 24th 2014, 11:28 AM

    That episode of South Park with the cable company!

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    Feb 24th 2014, 12:29 PM

    The network providers here would have to stock up on the cable company’s shirts Conor

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    Feb 24th 2014, 9:43 AM

    Welcome to the 21st Century Nokia.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 9:43 AM

    I have no idea what any of that meant.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 10:04 AM

    My only question is does it have snake?

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    Feb 24th 2014, 10:09 AM

    That is not a question you should ask a gentleman.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 10:14 AM

    Does it have snake ?
    Check this out

    http://www.benmidi.com/gameboy/

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    Feb 24th 2014, 9:44 AM

    Why would you want that extra trouble rather than just buying a proper android phone?

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    Feb 24th 2014, 9:51 AM

    What extra trouble?

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    Mute Ancient History
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    Feb 24th 2014, 9:55 AM

    Porting apps over to the Nokia store. And therefore a reduced number of apps are available.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 10:47 AM

    Slicker interface, more user friendly, fastlane is a great idea, no heavy skin, better office/onedrive/outlook intergration.

    Cheap android phones are all terrible except for the Moto G which is about 50 euro more expensive. For a lot of people these would be great phones. Plus colorful phones are cool.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 10:50 AM

    OK good points thanks.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 11:12 AM

    You’re right AH, they really don’t have the momentum to make those sorts of demands, replacing Google Maps won’t do them any favours either. Great prices though.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 12:25 PM

    Bought a Lumia 520 recently as a cheapish Android I bought was a dud. Despite bring an Android fan, I’ve had absolutely no issue in transitioning. Most apps I need I can get on the Nokia store, and for the few I cant I have my tablet or laptop. Simple UI, great music player, bloody affordable. An Android/Lumia hybrid would actually only provide even more apps,and bring them a step closer to an attempt at full Android someday. And byjaysus it will be better than anything that Apple lot produce.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 9:01 PM

    Lack of google as my preferred search engine made me ditch lumia I don’t rate Bing at all rubbish at even getting my local takeaways number on it

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    Feb 24th 2014, 9:07 PM

    There’s a Google search app, or, you could have searched for Google on Bing…

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    Feb 24th 2014, 9:49 AM

    Seems like a case of getting the worst of both worlds.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 12:19 PM

    God be with the days everybody had a Nokia 3210

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    Feb 24th 2014, 12:21 PM

    I was a Motorola man, loved the antenna.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 10:05 AM

    It’s no longer Nokia. Is Nokia not owned by Microsoft now ? So Nokia only being used for the brand name now to sell Microsoft products.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 9:55 AM

    So it won’t have access to the Play store?

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    Feb 24th 2014, 1:32 PM

    Uses ASOP and Nokia store. All apps are compatible but lots require Google play services for saved games and the like. It will have the important Android apps.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 10:00 AM

    Something all apple and android fans can agree on- this will be a rubbish phone like all their previous junk. The phones just give up after a month! I could never convince my last Nokia I wasn’t in Central London .

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    Feb 24th 2014, 10:24 AM

    Nokia? Ah I remember them!
    They insist on you using their Nokia store and program’s thus alienating themselves from other compatible formats. They are still doing it. The new phone is not Android, it will just run Android apps.

    They’re on the brink ok disaster and they still might disappear if this folly continues.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 10:38 AM

    They seem to be following the blackberry business model.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 10:49 AM

    You are aware that Nokia is owned by Microsoft? So they have hundred of billions in cash to burn?

    Not going anywhere.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 11:01 AM

    Yes they are . But quite the opposite. They have a deadline to get their products out and get the brand recognition restored to their hay day.
    They were huge. They dropped the ball on a monumental scale.

    Nokia was dead in the water and snapped up for their patents and their manufacturing sites.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 9:49 AM

    Great timing again by Nokia , late to the party again. A recent release from Russian information technology (IT) security firm Kaspersky Lab says by late January 2014, it had accumulated about 200,000 unique samples of mobile malware for Android mobiles, up 34 per cent from November 2013, only two months earlier, when 148,000 samples had been recorded. The report found the number of malicious Android apps had topped 10 million

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    Feb 24th 2014, 11:10 PM

    At least Android users don’t have to use iTunes. Every cloud …

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    Feb 24th 2014, 11:32 AM

    When you see how Nokia has disappeared then you wonder about the price Facebook paid for Whatsapp. If it was prime office space in New York they had paid for it would always have value. Seems to be a lot of money tied up in tech stocks and shares.

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    Feb 24th 2014, 10:14 AM

    Is this not a really cheap version of the Nokia lumia hardly something new

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    Feb 24th 2014, 6:15 PM

    Jaysus Nokia, bit behind aren’t ya

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