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Column: We need emigration – and we have to stop being hysterical about it

Emigration holds painful memories in Ireland, but the real tragedy would be if all our young people stayed here, argues Fergus O’Rourke.

Fergus O'Rourke

IN IRELAND, EMIGRATION is pretty universally regarded as A Bad Thing. (Attitudes to immigration are more ambivalent).

This attitude is generally, and with considerable justification, explained in terms of the 19th-century experience. Following the catastrophic Great Famine in the mid-1840s, during which a million died – the pre-Famine population was about eight million – millions left the country. At its lowest point, the island’s inhabitants numbered about four million, and the population remains below six million.

To put some context on this, the population of the neighbouring island of Great Britain increased from 19 million to nearly 60 million over the same period, despite wars and not insignificant emigration of its own to ‘the Colonies’ (yes – net immigration played a part too). Europe, despite the Holocaust and similar horrors, also trebled in population.

For me, someone who has lived in Ireland for over half a century, and thought that he was historically aware, just recalling these bare facts has taken me considerably aback. It is probably fair to say that for anyone attempting to understand the Irish, ignoring the Famine is as crass as ignoring the Holocaust when considering the Israelis.

Behind the Irish statistics lie a multitude of family separations, destruction of communities, economic stagnation and, generally, a world of hurt. Insofar as there is a collectively shared narrative of what emigration means, it is still stuck in that historical recollection.

I trust that it is clear that I have considerable sympathy for that on a sentimental level. However, although there is still some reality in it, I dissent from the national consensus which accepts it as a rational approach to the present.

A far-flung family

My view on emigration is, understandably, shaped by my experience. I was born in Canada, as was my eldest brother. Of the nine children produced by my four grandparents, not one spent their entire working life in the State, and three are permanently resident abroad. Of my seven siblings, only one has not lived and worked abroad, and two still do.

I have 34 first cousins living, of whom 25 were born in Ireland. Nineteen now live in Ireland, of whom three have returned after being located elsewhere.

I have three children. One lives in Dublin (at least three hours travelling time away). The other two live abroad.

I have eleven nephews and nieces, of whom six are foreign-born. Four – it will soon be six – live abroad.

To sum all this up: Emigration has always been part of the story of my family as I have known it. And my family, though not necessarily typical, is not unusual in this respect. It’s not exactly that it’s ‘no big deal’, as it were; it is more a case that this is life – if your desires, plans, ambitions, relationships or even – gosh! – a job require that you live a long way away from where you grew up, you do it. You do not wring your hands, and wish that it could be otherwise, and neither do those whom you are leaving behind. Or not for long, at least. There is some pain in separation, but it’s not the end of the world.

Of course, it is very important to this mindset that separation, albeit it may be prolonged over years, is not seen as permanent. For many Irish families, though not mine, the experience of emigration meant the departure of family members who were never seen or heard from again.

Unemployment is, in absolute terms, at an all-time high just now in the Republic of Ireland. While we have experienced higher rates of unemployment in the 1980s, the current number of nearly half a million jobless is a new record. I am confident that it will come down again, but the descent will be slower than the upward surge was.

Can we cut unemployment without emigration?

Does anyone think that even 300,000 jobs will be ‘created’ within, say, five years? There is no sign that even the most optimistic left-wing politician believes that this can be achieved.

This means that an awful lot of people are facing a long period of unemployment if they restrict themselves to the opportunities afforded by the Irish labour market. (And some will face it, anyway.) It is a sobering thought. It is not less sobering to note that the opportunities in the traditional English-speaking destinations for Irish job-seekers are perhaps not going to be as good as in the past. And, as noted above, our current temporary labour surplus has never been higher.

On the brighter side, the richer countries are pretty short of the kind of people of whom we now have a surplus, and also, over the last quarter-century it has been noticeable that Irish people have found opportunities all over the world, and not just in the traditional comfort zones.

Hysteria doesn’t help

The traditional cultural inclination, however, has been for Irish workers to wait and wait and… Emigration was slow to resume in the 1980s and only really got going after 1986. This was bad for the individuals concerned, and for society in general. It would be tragic if we let the same thing happen again.

I am not suggesting that everyone should, like our forbears, ‘take the boat’ and join the Cricklewood navvy gangs. (Even if there are any left.) We should though, I suggest, shake off at least a little of our instinctive emigration-averse acculturation and treat the Global Village as our oyster. (Which it is.) It does not provide an easy option for any but a lucky few, but for many others opportunities will present themselves if they decide, starting right now, to be open to them.

This is especially significant for the circa 80 per cent of the unemployed who are aged 25 or less.  (The source for this staggering statistic is here). The rest of us, I would urge, should stop bewailing the return of ‘the spectre of emigration’. It does nothing positive for us, but helps to inhibit necessary action from being taken.

And remember: VOIP, especially with video, is a great thing, and medium/long-distance travel has never been quicker, easier or cheaper.

Fergus O’Rourke is a lawyer based in Cork. He writes at Of Laws And Men, where this article first appeared.

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Comments (30 Comments)

  • I think most people don’t mind emigrating or travelling by choice, its part of irish culture. It is the manner in which this is forced upon them on this occasion. The lack of the option, especially the reasons behind it, pure unadulterated greed by property obsessed developers, speculators, bankers and of course a lot of the public who wanted a slice of the pie or were obscenely anxious to own a house and would go to any lengths to buy one. I wouldnt mind leaving the country but it would make me sick if I knew I had to do it because of someone like Michael Fitzpatrick

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  • Strange attitude of a certain modern generation of Irish, namely the 50-60 something baby boomers. Singapore doesn’t export its youngest talent, neither does Germany. But gonebeenisim is alive and well in Ireland. Don’t stay and sort the problem, just get lost and all will be well. It’s a cycle sine the famine, boom and bust aided and abetted by the ruling class.

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    • Emigration is perfectly fine, if it is a choice. Forced emigration because government policies means the economy cannot support society is clearly not. There are more people in Britain who have Irish born grandparents than the number of people in Ireland who have Irish born grandparents. That does not suggest that our independence has been
      used for the benefit of the people.

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    • You are bang on Daithi.

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    • Fergal is a lawyer, probably the most restricted and cosseted profession in Ireland, whose Lawyers are amongst the most protected in Europe. I’m sure that he does a mean argument for less regulation, and considered Sean Fitzpatrick a go getter 10 years ago, but if you dare to open up his little kingdom to the market, or to younger lawyers, have no doubt that he and his type will be down on you like a ton of bricks. Some people are happy with a ever failing Ireland, some it benefits, some are too lethargic, some too lazy and some “just know their place”, whatever his logic it is far from acceptable, and it is is the failed thinking of the people that have gotten us in to the mess.

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    • Well said Daithi..

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  • Emigration has broken the back of this country every generation for 150 years, it is amongst the most economically destructive activities that is undertaken here, and a few people coming back and setting up a business is not going to change that. Each qualified emigrant represents an investment of about 250k to the age of 21, at a 1000 a week leaving, that is a qtr of a billion. Starts to add up quickly.

    If Fergus was against emigration , he might agree with the liberalization of the legal mkt, remove the stranglehold of the Law Soc. It would be good for business, good for young Lawyers, good for Ireland but bad for Ferg’s pocket so pack them off, what a selfish S.O.B.

    The above article demonstrates the type of attitude that has Ireland going broke every 30 years, have no doubt that Fergal has no interest in changing that situation, because of the slight chance that he may have to work harder on an even playing field. Despicable.

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  • This article starts with a false premise: that Irish people are generally emigration-averse. Where’s the evidence for this? You suggest that it’s in the fact that it takes emigration a few years to really rev up in a time of economic crisis. Yet thousands of Irish people were leaving during the boom years. The percentage of people who have worked abroad is surely very large. Irish people seem to have very little difficulty picking up and working elsewhere.

    You undercut your argument with the following:

    “Of course, it is very important to this mindset that separation, albeit it may be prolonged over years, is not seen as permanent. For many Irish families, though not mine, the experience of emigration meant the departure of family members who were never seen or heard from again.”

    You acknowledge that in order to maintain your positive mindset about emigration, it needs to be regarded as a temporary solution. This is one of the problematic aspects of the current emigration: you’d have to be _extremely_ naive to believe that for most of these young people, it’s not going to be permanent.

    What is going to drive the next major return? Are we going to see another Celtic Tiger in the next ten or twenty years? That’s a fantasy, and the notion that these people are going to be returning in large numbers, while beloved by certain members of the political and media establishment, is either said as a lie by those who know better to quiet some of the squawking or as a fantasy promulgated by the “think positive” brigade who brought us the bubble.

    And Fergus, why not engage with the critics of your ideas? You’re well able for it, yet you’ve chosen to only make a few snarky remarks that don’t address any of the substance of the criticism you’re getting here.

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    • Cathy 05/06/11 #

      Agreed. I’ve worked abroad and Itish people are much more likely to travel than many other nationalities. The one UK person I met who did a world tour was told he was crazy by his peers – and met Irish people every place he went.

      The problem is it looks like it will be a one-way trip. People in the eighties didn’t expect to come back. Those who did – will they be warning their kids not to expect to? Even to NOT to, given their experience?

      (By the way, where does the idea emigration didn’t start until 1986 come from? This chart from UCC http://migration.ucc.ie/nmr/NMR%20Web%20Documents/graph1.gif suggests emigration started again in 1979; it merely got to “worst since 1950s levels” in the late 80s.

      Finally, we must not forget the differences this time. A third of young men under 25 are unemployed – the age alone suggests these are not all university graduates. The navvy gangs ARE gone. So what can those unemployed with Leaving Cert or less hope to emigrate to? Where are the opportunities for them? Hoping to export our unemployment problem when it’s a world-wide problem is hardly realistic (even as it disregards the social & emotional aspects of such an export).

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    • Noreen

      Neither Twitter nor the “comments” here can do justice to this discussion. I suggest that you write a blogpost in response – maybe thejournal.ie will publish it, but even if it does’nt – to which I will link, and will in turn respond here or elsewhere. If necessary, I am prepared to publish your reasoned response as a guest post on my own site.

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    • Cathy,

      (Please bear in mind that I am focussing on the position of the potential emigrant, not that of the people who will stay. )

      1. Not coming back is not always a disaster.
      2. The chart to which you link bears out the point I actually made. I never suggested that there was no emigration before 1986.
      3. Regarding your final point, my article explicitly recognised that emigration is not an option for every one

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  • Spot on!

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  • Yes the inevitable Safety valve of emigration. Export the excess so the remaining doctors , lawyers, priests, shopkeepers, politicians, eldest sons of farmers can live in comfort without any hint of unrest or discontent.

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  • http://www.politics.ie/economy/161814-drivetime-exorbitant-legal-fees.html

    Why didn’t you write about this Ferg. It is something that would benefit Ireland, business and consumer alike, it wouldn’t benefit you though would it. You may be happy to pack you kids off to the airport, problem solved but a lot of us here, are not, and will not lie down, job or no job.. When I was unemployed, I et up my own business, I’m part of the export driven recovery, my exports are for the good of Ireland, your suggestion is for the good of yourself and those like you.

    I’m unbelievably disgusted with this article.

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    • I don’t participate in p.ie, for reasons too involved to recount now.

      You appear to be someone with whom it might be interesting to debate various topics, but a more stringent approach to what is fact and what is poorly assimilated tradition/media scare-mongering would first be needed from you. After all, you can’t even get my name right, and make assumptions about my circumstances and opinions which are laughably incorrect.

      Write an article or two yourself, checking all the facts on which you rely. It will probably open your eyes.

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  • Yes I agree with this, it is a great opportunity for young people to get out and see the world, well it’s a whole lot better than sitting here feeling miserable with sign of a job on the horizon, go get work experience else where and come back in a few years!

    “The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.”
    Saint Augustine

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  • From Ferg’s website “He spent some time as a political foot-soldier, and got some booby-prizes e.g.positions on hospital boards and government commissions before he got sense.”

    Shock horror, man on Gravy Train suggests everyone else that they should feck off, smack off Haughey’s “We are living beyond our means speech”

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  • It´s ok to say that emigration is necessary, that is if you want to emigrate. I object to the article and especially to its headline. Why not “Make everybody over 50 years of age retire and let younger people with families and crippling mortgages have their jobs”
    Then, give those over 50s a fair pension and send them off to the Costa del Sol and retire in the sun. It’s a nicer proposition than forces emigration but only if you want to go.

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  • Cathy 06/06/11 #

    Thanks for comments Fergus. I recognise your focus is on those who go, but you are framing it as a response to lack of jobs. If most of the unemployed are unable to leave, emigration won’t solve that problem.

    Regarding 1980s emigration, you said it was “slow to ramp up”. That does not tally with the chart as I read it.

    Just a point on your number of under 25s unemployed (via Irish Independant) which I inexplicably missed – that number appears to be misreported. It is close the number OVER 25 unemployed in April 2011 (under 25s about 49k male and 29k female in April 2011). Disgrace that the Indo let that through (and that I can’t comment on the story. I feel a blog post coming on :D )

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  • Sad but true. We have to stop the moral outrage at emigration and accept that it’s actually one of the things that will stop this country going bankrupt. I think we should give a year’s worth of social welfare to those who choose to leave, on condition that they don’t claim again for another 5 years. That’d be compensation for those who leave but it’d also encourage many people to go, including the large number of immigrants who came here during the boom. We could drastically reduce the dole queues and save billions in the process. Sadly, it has to be done :(

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    • Desperate nonsense and reflective of someone who has never worked a day in their life. How can investing on average 250k in a 20 something student, and then shipping them off to America be considered good business. Emigration is one of the reasons that our economy has been crap for most of the last 90 years, it is financial suicide. David raise your standards, because your current thinking is not acceptable for the challenges ahead.

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    • You’re right, the government will lose its investment. But it’s costing more to keep them on the dole. I’m conscious of the brian drain, but really we have no choice. Brain leaves the country or it’s sitting at home doing nothing.

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    • They don’t lose their qualifications while they are abroad, in fact they can add to them by gaining useful experience. Why add 200 euros a week dole to that investment we’ve already made? Why allow them to become demoralised and conditioned to joblessness? It is the experience of this country that a large proportion of the “brain drain” returns to make a meaningful contribution to the economy and to Irish society, so while it is tough on families, it’s good business at national level, both in the short and longer terms.

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  • Fine, get the Poles and Romanians to emigrate. Back home.

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    • You may be my twin brother but I would like to point out to other readers that you have not had a job in the last twenty-nine years preferring as you do to live off the state. The Poles Romanians and other East European nationalities you so despise in my experience put the likes of you to shame. They are not to proud to do menial tasks or sweep the streets. You should hang your head in shame and quit the BNP as you sound like a racialist.

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  • There is actually a shortage of people in the Information technology and Digital Media areas – Developers, Business Development, Engineers – both experienced and starters. As these industries develop hopefully some experienced people will ome back and also that we can adjust our educational system to turn out the right people for where the jobs are now. This is already happening.

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    • Of course someone from Enterprise Ireland is going to push rubbish like that. Try talking to people who are actually looking for work in the IT sector to find out how difficult it is to get anything more than a few weeks temporary contract pushing pallets around a factory.

      The fact is if you don’t speak fluent foreign language you are out of the running for most “IT” jobs as those jobs are for tech support. If you don’t specialise in a specific programming/development environment you are out of the running for dev jobs. Forget about the “adjust our educational system” as that does not help the people who are forced to emigrate NOW. The adjustment to the educational system should have been done years ago. Students in secondary school are STILL taught “Religion studies” as mandatory yet computers/IT is relegated to complete non-importance!!

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    • Robert, don’t be an ass. Experienced people do not come back to Ireland in the IT sector, because we pay far less than any other country does. If I left to go to the US now, I would be paid 30% more on arrival for exactly the same job as I do here.
      The reason more of us don’t go is simple – we have friends and family here and don’t wish to leave them.
      This entire column skips over that as though it didn’t matter.

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