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Column: The Irish Government must help end the flag protests

The issue in the North over flying the Union Jack requires quiet diplomacy, not grandstanding or lecturing. It’s in everyone’s interest that Dublin help broker a deal, writes Michael Anderson.

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FOR MOST DUBLINERS, the idea of Willie Frazer and a busload of not particularly articulate Unionists marching on Leinster House seemed like a decidedly daft idea.They can be forgiven their amusement. But Enda Kenny and Eamon Gilmore cannot as easily afford to dismiss the concerns of Loyalists over the flag issue.

The Dublin government has surprisingly strong goodwill among the loyalist working class in Belfast. It has a responsibility to this expectant community – and to its legal and moral obligations under the Good Friday and St Andrews Agreements – to take an active role in taking the heat out of this situation.

Fraser’s bombastic demands are unlikely to be helpful, but this should not deflect from the hurt that they represent. It is in our interest, and theirs, that our Government respond to the Loyalist cri de coeur. This is a time for quiet diplomacy, not grandstanding or lecturing. The solution is straightforward but the choreography requires skill that our Department of Foreign Affairs has in abundance.

Iconography

Belfast City Hall and the Union Jack are central to the ritual and iconography of Loyalism. City Hall is as sacred to Loyalists as the GPO in Dublin is to Republicans. It is perhaps Belfast’s finest and best known building. It is here that Carson signed the Solemn Oath and Covenant that is a founding document of Northern Ireland. It is at City Hall that Belfast holds its Remembrance Day service to recall its sacrifice for that flag – its war dead, and particularly those of the Somme.  Where they can accept the removal of the Crown and British symbolism from many public buildings and institutions (eg the RUC), they have an understandable sensitivity about this flag on this building.

Loyalists want that sensitivity recognised. Willie Fraser may not be the most appropriate channel, or indeed the one that Belfast youth would identify with, but Loyalism in general is looking to Dublin with some hope. Failing to respond to this loyalist plea would be to squander a remarkable store of political goodwill and leverage that was quietly and meticulously built up with immense care and skill. It would also do a disservice to the little publicised, but immensely significant, role that Dublin played in bringing the loyalist paramilitaries into the Peace Process in Northern Ireland.

Dick Spring reached out to Loyalists in the dark days of the conflict in Northern Ireland. He and others in the Department of Foreign Affairs, and later the Taoiseach’s Office, took huge political – and for the officials on the ground, real personal – risks in persuading these men of extreme violence to leave their weapons aside and try political dialogue.

Irish involvement

It is not an exaggeration to say that loyalist paramilitaries would not have so fully committed to the Peace Process, declared a ceasefire so early, or perhaps more importantly, remained so solidly in support of the Good Friday Agreement – despite setbacks, rebuffs and deliberate attempts to provoke them – were it not for the professionalism, dedication and talented interpersonal skills of a raft of Irish officials and public servants.

Loyalists were genuinely impressed and grateful for support from Dublin in getting a voice in the talks. Where London, and the dominant Unionist parties, were cold, Dublin was quietly respectful and genuinely helpful without being patronising. The goodwill towards the Dublin government in the heartlands of Loyalism, and among the most ardent of paramilitaries, is remarkable. Serendipity perhaps, but being dealt with by the Department of Foreign Affairs, as opposed to Home Affairs, is seen as a measure of Dublin’s sensitivity.

If we learned nothing from the recent troubles it is that alienating a substantial segment of the population, giving their youth no outlet for their political frustration, and responding to protests with excessive force will provoke a violent backlash sooner rather than later. Small issues grow and escalate beyond containment.  More than 30 years of violence, 3,600 dead, 50,000 injured and at least two economies brought to their knees is the consequence of neglecting small issues and incremental grievances.

The Peace Process

The brilliance of the Good Friday Agreement and the Peace Process was that it offered a practical toolbox for tackling the problems at source and the machinery to solve the inevitable tensions and conflict that are bound to arise in a segregated and divided society. Realistically few on the ground, and probably none of the paramilitary combatants expected reconciliation; the plan was to fight the next round without violence.

Generations have repeated the pattern of using violence as a political response. Breaking embedded patterns of behaviour requires endless effort and patience and positive reinforcement. History tells us that London does not focus on Ireland unless it is obliged to. Stormont is often too preoccupied with political infighting and cannot be relied upon to respond to loyalist needs.

This is a dangerous time. Dublin cannot stand idly by; leaving it to London or Stormont to sort out loyalist issues is shirking our responsibility as a contracting partner in Good Friday. Dublin has the credibility with Loyalism to act as an honest broker. This identification with ‘the other’ was the critical difference that distinguishes the Good Friday Agreement and makes it so much a template for working the peace, as opposed to merely stopping the guns.

Sensitive cultural values

‘Parity of esteem’ means so much more than equal rights or equivalent goods. Not only does it recognise the right of the contracting parties to have different cultural values but it places an onus on everyone to be sensitive to these priorities.

Right now the Loyalist community is hurting and wants a way to show politics works for the loyalist working class. Dublin needs to recognise their needs and remind everyone that settling the Northern Ireland conflict is about more than ameliorating the grievances of nationalists. More importantly Dublin needs to broker a deal on the flags issue. Looking out for the needs of fellow Irish people, be they loyalist or nationalist, is after all what a republic should be doing.

Dr Michael J  Anderson is a political science lecturer and a Fellow at the Institute for British Irish Studies in UCD. His PhD thesis was entitled Identity Change and Power Shift: the Case of Loyalism in Northern Ireland. To read more from Michael Anderson click here.

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Comments (110 Comments)

  • The Dublin government has surprisingly strong goodwill among working class loyalists? Loyalism is looking to Dublin with hope? What a load of nonsense.
    Loyalists absolutely HATE everything about us: people,country,government,culture,religion – you name it,they hate it.
    I thought this alleged cross border goodwill culminated with the visit of the Queen in May 2011 but two months later they were burning our flag again.They also wasted no time burning our flag when BCC made the decision last month.The official Facebook page was awash with claims of “southern interference” even though none of them could articulate how or why the south was involved.
    This is the culture of No Surrender/Never Never Never we are talking about here,any deal brokered by the Irish government that doesn’t give them absolutely everything they want will only feed their hatred.

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  • What the article fails to address is that Belfast City Council demoratically voted for this measure. I’m all for the Irish Government facilitating ‘a solution’ but isn’t the problem that any solutio will undermine the democratic process?

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    • Absolutely. This crowd are too used to being placated. They must be shown that thuggery doesn’t pay.

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    • Basically Mr. Anderson is suggesting that the Dublin govt. should use its influence with Nationalists to persuade them to reverse a democratic (and rightful) decision about the flying of the union flag in Belfast. He makes no mention of the BNP/UVF involvement in the trouble or the fact that peoples lives are being put at risk every day. The ring-leaders of these riots need to be rounded up and jailed immediately. Mr. Anderson, if your “case of loyalism” angle is to suggest that Dublin seek to appease loyalist violence over a democratic decision which “hurts their sensitivities”, then I don’t think its a very credible case at all.

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  • Load of garbage, this would only confirm that mob rule works!

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  • Apart from these protests being a backlash against democracy and taigs having equal rights nowadays, it is more about the DUP getting the East Belfast seat back from Alliance and the East Belfast UVF trying to get leverage for its leaders ongoing legal difficulties.

    Basically these protests are just old fashioned bigots being used for other ends.

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  • The city has democratically voted for designated days of flying the flag, we have had many years of unionists saying “tough” to the nationalists of Belfast but them days are gone and are not coming back. Violence cannot be rewarded as paisley liked to say “never, never, never.”

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  • You reap what you sow. The Union Flag was forced down the throat of the Catholic community since partition- the most obvious expression of this, the triumphalist marches on July 12th. It is the loyalist community which imbued their flag with such negative associations amongst the nationalist community. That the Catholic community now interprets its presence as a symbol of oppression is consequently as understandable as it was inevitable. The compromise has already taken place with the flag been flown 15 days a year. Bully boy Unionist tactics should not be rewarded. It’s not like Nationalists are demanding the Tricolour be flown there on Easter Mondays.

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  • Mack 16/01/13 #

    Would I be right in pointing out that the union Jack is only to be flown in its official capacity when the government of the day are working on behalf of the united kingdom, but if and when they are working on behalf of the people of northern Ireland then the flying of the St Patrick’s cross is official.
    There has been far too much blood spilled over the years, the government in Scotland use the St Andrew’s cross and even England use the St George cross,
    This is just my observation and may not be fully upto date with any political or governmental acts.

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  • peter 16/01/13 #

    Weeks of violence supposedly over a flag is complete nonsense. Nothing is going to change until the majority decides to accept political decisions made democratically, for me London & Dublin must cut the apron strings politically. Surely there are some young progressive voices within the general community that must step up to the mark & bring NI to the next level.

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  • So basically we should feel sorry for them and understand they are sensitive?What a load of garbage.

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  • Loyalists were impressed with the support from Dublin…..

    I find this hard to believe as the vast majority if them spew venom anytime we are mentioned and always will.

    You saw 11,12 year old kids rioting last week.

    This hatred is not going away anytime soon, especially with hate mongers like Willy Frasier coaching kids his hate of the south. I

    ts nothing to do with a flag, its them full of anger knowing that they are becoming a spent force.

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  • What utter nonsense. Hurting that the flag is only flown on specific days? Yes that’s a hugely valid reason to close the city down and riot!

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    • it was mentioned on several occasions that the original reason for the protests (flying the Union flag) was lost long ago and these rioters are anti-democratic thugs. what they wnat, is not quite clear. that they are costing the country millions however is proven.

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  • A full National truth and reconciliation is needed on this island, supported and engaged by both the British and Irish governments and the paramilitaries. All the tinkering around the edges will solve nothing. Unfortunately, there is no desire by either government to deal with the past, when it can be used as a political football to suit their own needs.

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  • Why don’t head on up to West Belfast and express your opinion? Let us know how you get on.

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  • What an absurd article. Basically, the author is asking that we acquiesce to violent Loyalist sensitivities. What I see is a change for the better in Belfast – A transformation from a city which was unionist dominated, to a city that reflects all communities.

    Let’s be very clear about this – This was a democratic decision taken by Belfast City council. Secondly, the proposal came from a Unionist party in an attempt to reach compromise. Finally – the democratic decision is in line with proposals made by the Equality Commission. It should also be pointed out that many Unionist dominated councils in the north only fly the Union Flag on designated days.

    All this article is saying is that so long as Loyalists throw their toys out of the pram – they should always get their way. What about Nationalist sensitivities? I think the most sensible thing to do would be to fly both flags to reflect both communities or no flags at all. Belfast is unlike most cities in the world, in that it’s populace is split between two communities with allegiances to two different states, which is reflected by two different flags. It’s time that we stop pandering to Loyalist violence, and support neutrality and equality – with both communities being represented.

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  • As these protesters will eventually become citizens of a United Ireland, it would serve Leinster House well to be involved in this process.

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  • bacoxy 16/01/13 #

    I don’t see how it involves us at all. I wasn’t even aware that the matter was up for debate by Belfast city council. It was the decision of that council to remove the flag. If Leeds city council vote on something in Leeds, is it my business? Im not being disingenuous when I say that. There’s one section of society in Belfast who are protesting, which in a supposedly multi cultural cosmopolitan city should not make a difference. The city voted the city council into power surely? All of the city… not just one section.

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  • They need captain planet to sort this out…..and open a bakery

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQJrovKgrTw

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  • I think that Loyalists, in a very small way, do look to Dublin. One only has to look at the relationship formed between Mary McAllece, her husband and leaders of the UDA such as Jackie McDonald. Loyalists do not trust the Dublin government but they hold an even greater distrust in the British government ‘we will fight British to stay British’ was a slogan used when Ulster Loyalists feared that home rule would be forced upon them. A stronger relationship between the Irish government and Loyalists can only be a good thing for furthering peace on this island.

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  • Why not the simple solution: Fly both flags from the building so to represent both nationalists and loyalists. We’re all great at shouting about equality, diversity and integration, when infact we’re all bunch critics judges and jury.

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  • Well written article with some interesting points. But from my limited understanding, wasn’t the new flag-flying policy a democratic decision taken by Belfast/Northern Ireland’s elected representatives? And whilst people have a right to protest, surely street thuggery should not be endorsed by either the NI Assembly, the Irish Government or the British Government?

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  • Very good article. We should do whatever we can to help bring back peace. History has shown us that we are only ever minutes away from having the violence end up at our doorsteps.

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    • It was a democratic vote to reduce the number of days the flag should be flown. Where does it all end if you give in to these thugs, they will only learn one lesson that violence does produce results………

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    • Hi kitty.last week on newstalk fm fraizer was interviewed and I have to say it was ridiculous the man needs help he said that catholic’s get better treatment…!
      I do agree something needs to be done but its lock up fraizer for orchestrating the violence,there will never be any form of peace up north its bred into them to cause mayhem and murder.
      Both Ireland and England should renounce all dealings with the north and just let them destroy themselves

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    • Oh I agree. I have no sympathy for thugs and terrorists on either side, I just think that if intervention from the South can help then we should step into the breach with a voice of reason (hopefully!).

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  • Minor point but unless the flag is being displayed from a boat the correct name is the Union Flag, not the Union Jack

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  • Get the riot police in to smash a few heads with batons the next night of the riots. They won’t do it again will they? In fact, I’d take great pleasure in making an example out of a so called ‘ring-leader’ by smashing his brains, or lack thereof across the pavement.

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  • Gerard 16/01/13 #

    Patrick Lyons The brit stop backing the loyalist mobs the norths shame your comments are always one sided FTQ

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  • It’s quite simple really, fly both flags.

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  • It was knee-jerk reaction after knee-jerk reaction that ratcheted up the whole situation in Northern Ireland back in the day. Have we not learned that this is not the solution? Do we want to condemn another generation to the control of the power-hungry war thugs who most certainly are firing on these kids from the shadows? These people are our Irish brothers, albeit under a different flag. They are grieving and we need to listen in a way that our community was never listened to. Let us bring forgiveness to the fore and prove that we are better than the powers that were. If for nothing else, then for the memory of the thousands who lost their lives on both sides. Let us not allow our beautiful island to descend once again into such modern-day butchery.

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  • The Irish govt can help to end these protests. Enda can ask nicely if the loyalist troublemakers can respect the DEMOCRATIC decision made in City Hall.

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  • im not Irish and cant claim to understand this situation completely. If i am being insensitive about anything in particular i apologise in advance.

    It seems illogical to ma that a nation that fought for independence from the main republic should have to come back to the main republic to sort their problems out. It seems that the Great Britannia they so wanted to join doesnt really care all that much about them. That must be hard for them but in the end is their problem as a sovereign state, no? If their protesters burn the flags of the country they require help from… well, that is just not going to work is it?
    The fact that a vote was held and is being countered with open violence shows that NI is not a democratic state. I find it much more worrying that they cant seem to get it under control costing their economy millions. obviously the protest isnt about the flag anymore. the protesters are hate mongerers with an unclear aim.
    Dublin shouldnt refuse diplomatic help but if London doesnt care, maybe NI should be completely independent?

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  • Have a quick referendum
    To see if people in the south want the north include in the republic. That’s democracy.

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  • Throwing bricks at busses injuring the driver, terrorizing special ed students. Shame on them. Yeah they need the sympathy (sarcasm) Bad article.

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  • in fairness to him – i reckon that Willie Frazer is just as articulate as Enda Kenny !

    & let both the British & Irish flags be flown over all public buildings in north east Ireland.
    that sould satisfy just about everyone – shouldn’t it ?

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  • Interesting article. I did wonder at the significance of this building in particular. Now we know. There was some provocation and their protest isn’t apropos virtually nothing as some would have us believe.

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    • The only provocation was that a democratic vote was taken and the majority of Belfast do not agree with the loyalists/Unionists on this issue.

      It is all a bit of a sham protest/riot though isn’t it. If it was such a big deal for Unionism then how come the Shankill is as quiet as a babe asleep.

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  • I don’t understand.

    Why can’t we have an Irish Flag and a Union Jack raised together as an expression of our commitment to the PEACE PROCESS?

    Who cares if you are catholic, protestant, black or white?

    Peace and Love People!

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  • This has nothing to do with the people of the Irish republic. If people in any British city want to protest over some non sensical rubbish then it’s a matter for authorities in that jurisdiction. The endless attempts to try and link Northern Ireland to this state through spurious religious, cultural and fantastical notions of nationhood are beyond what most people voted for in the Belfast Agreement – namely an end to British terrorism in Ireland vis-a-vis the IRA

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  • Chris K 16/01/13 #

    Stop deleting my comments journal

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  • The only help they should get is Garda in riot gear . There nothing but thugs and hooligans out for a laugh. Not far off the riots in the UK. Otherwise let them sort out there own problems, they can fly whatever flag for as many days as they want as far as I’m concerned.

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  • Australians and New Zealanders can vote in elections in their country of birth , but us Irish can not, Irrespective where we live on this planet. WONDER WHY. As a side issue, When last in Drogheda and chatting with old friends , I was amazed at the Anti-IRA feeling in the town, which was totally opposite to what i encountered in Dundalk. Ireland is certainly a Paradox.

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  • The whole issue of the Irish problem could easily be solved by the Irish republic rejoining the commonwealth. This question could be put to a referendum , but all of the irish living in the UK and commonwealth would have to be given a vote. Remember , we were a united country once and it was the South that broke that unity.

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    • It is true that the South broke that unity, but there were sufficient ground to do so!

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    • The entire island became a self governing dominion of the commonwealth in 1922 (the Irish free state) but the north were given the opportunity to opt out which they did … it would be interesting to see if all communities were represented in that decision, however, that was the beginning of partition on the island.

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  • Excellent article. I look forward to a positive outcome. Prejudiced comments some of which have been posted here cannot be taken seriously by normal intelligent people. These comments sadly reflect the fact that our educational system has let down some of our intellectually challenged students.

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  • Fly the St Patricks flag instead maybe? Its a flag invented by the British to represent Ireland and is the red X on the union flag. Maybe flying that on its own would be an idea. Maybe it could be flown down here for a few days (and in London) as a gesture of goodwill to those north? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/St_Patrick%27s_saltire.svg

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  • Me thinks Michael Anderson wrote that piece as wind-up, or else if he was really serious -then god help us all, the poor man hasn’t a clue.

    get some school child to have a wee chat with him about history and the ulster covenant/home rule bill, and life in the north from 1922 -1994 etc.

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