Saw him yesterday..he wasn’t hiding…

He has rather large sized shoes thou so you could be correct there…fair play -some bit of substance in an other wise bland comment that lacks of any substance really…

Agreed. If their is one Minister above all else can screw up the electoral chance of this Govt. It is Phil Hogan. He would fit perfectly in any FF gombeen cabinet of the last 30 years. Whatever you think of the tax, charges etc. He is a disaster waiting to happen and he’ll be gone before the locals, either having to resign in disgrace over something stupid or be sacked.

Hang on a moment. Please don’t treat me like the idiot you are . Sinn Fein lords it over local charges in Northern Ireland and then incite citizens of the Republic to break the law by not paying the Household Charge which is about the cost of three ink cartridges. When the Local Authority doesn’t receive all the funds anticipated because of the totally undemocratic behaviour of Sinn Fein the everybody else is to blame. The electorate must be a bunch of gombeens to accept that dishonesty.
And all of this after the Clare Daly dishonesty.
Please spare me!

Jesus Mick, can you not put your point across without resorting to insults? It says very little for your maturity and your intelect.

But the European socialists are wrong too…everybody is wrong except these people!!! Tis funny they contradict themselves so so much…all to get out of paying up and contributing…the very building blocks that socialism was built upon…

Looks like you haven’t figured out who caused this mess yet or maybe you have… you just dont give a shit .

European bureaucrats believe the innocent should pay

Irish Socialists should be honest and stop referring to themselves as left-wing and/or socialists, as they are nothing of the sort; rather they are a strange mid of anarchism ( any definition is in flux and can BMW redefined at every moment, all support to the state is suspect as possibly illegitimate ) and neo-feudalism ( rather than aiming to reduce unemployment, we will raise the welfare class to the level of a new upper class, a lewisite class who, while not wealthy, are sacrosanct and beyond question, criticism or reform ). I am 62 years old, And I consider myself a socialist of the “old school”, although I haven’t been politically active since the early 1990s. The current left-wing that are active in Ireland today are an embarrassment, with their emphasis on anti-intellectualism and blatant populist posturing. As an opposition they aid the current government through their incompetence at having a basic political ideology.

Oh god…more guff…explain how we are going to get out of this mess so? Without the usual “everyone is against us” please?

@ Nikolas..well said..they don’t know the meaning of socialism any more…

@ Nikolas…well said..they don’t know the meaning of socialism any more

There’s an opening in the Socialist Party Nikolas maybe you could shake things up.

Not a chance. I’m neither ambitious or deluded enough. I bowed out of active politicking when a vast number of former Socialists states chose not to continue to be socialist. A slap in the face for my beliefs, but I’m not going to argue with what the majority of a nation clearly decides.

You can post as much right-wing vile as you like all you conservatives, but no one is taking the bait. You cannot hide your ratings.

Tim is always a great example of what I was talking about. Thanks for the help, Tim!

Sorry? So the gambling banks, the bondholders – excuse me, UNSECURED bondholders – the wealthy who spend millions on long bets.. these people should not be held accountable and responsible for their actions?

We should bail them out and continue to create deductions that only the wealthy are applicable to? And Edna Kenny is so awesome that he deserves a €10k increase, putting his salary nearly 30% higher than the next highest leader in any other country? Are you f-n cracked??

Norman, the money isn’t there anymore. To say we already pay is to deny reality. There’s less people working, less companies employing. A vicious circle. And the same amount of people using the services now as in the boom. Move on…

Tell them to give up the fags, or if they won’t to at least buy ones that they’ve pay paid tax on…tell them to hand back their sky dish, maybe stop spending their money down the pub or bookies. If they did all of the above they could afford to pay. They would also be more productive in work-and make more money, or if they don’t have work they would now have more time to look for work…simple!

EVERYTHING in the north is subsidised by the British taxpayer. Let’s see how they would cope without that.

The people up the north have it easy when it comes to financing the state, the mainland UK is paying for them.

O Reilly where do you propose people that have no more to give it?
@Mick i’m not your friend so don’t address me as such,considering your response i’m proud not to be.Generalise much?

Mcbab couldn’t respond to any comment you make.Calling a child names lowers a person in my eyes making them unworthy of my attention.

Ah Norman, don’t be like that…I want to be friends…I promise from now on I won’t question peoples views when they are economically challenged and childish…I promise I will just read the tabloids and regurgitate them here..sure why would one read the details about things? I promise to do all this to be like u xxxx

@mick if they gave up all that to afford the HHC the govt. would probably lose money because of our ridiculous levels of VAT!

True, very true…can’t have it both ways…oh sorry these people think you can!!!

Perhaps if there was a fair and comprehensive progressive tax system that was laid down in the first place that didn’t ask someone who is scraping by from week to week, to pay the same as a millionaire – they might have considered it?

Perhaps if people saw their politicians lead by example – You know, Phil Hogan paying his service charges in Portugal… or Irish politicians as a whole taking a pay-cut which reflected the cuts on the rest of society.

Or perhaps the public are afraid of entering the system, because they know down the line – the cost of the household tax is going to dramatically increase to unsustainable levels.

Perhaps if people didn’t see our Government hand over billions to unnamed, ungauranteed bondholders – where they would actually see their extra tax being invested into public services – rather than seeing the complete opposite with cuts in them in an effort to handle private unsustainable debt?

Ah but sure, what do details matter? Just pay up – good a good citizen.

Some who is scraping by isn’t paying the same as a millionaire…don’t be making yerseleves look silly with comments like that….unless you can back it up?????

…Hmmmm, how do they fund council services in NI, surely Sinn Fein could suggest something similar in ROI…..oh wait…

Why don’t SF protest in NI out of curiousity?

“Some who is scraping by isn’t paying the same as a millionaire”

Yes they are. The current household charge is a flat tax, irrespective of one’s actual income.

€600 million bondholder payment to Anglo Irish Bank tomorrow. Wake up people…

Could you only imagine the dishonesty the fraud and the appalling International relations never mind the closing down of all inward investment if that pack EVER helped to form an Administration.

If that ever happened Mick, most normal people would just leave.

Figures and policies don’t stack up…maybe they will rob a bank or something to get all the money they need for their policies…as long as its not our banks they rob I suppose….no wait…they have history there too…

You are aware of the services people in the north recieve for their charge, water and bins to name but two.

The level of services that they get in the North is much higher than here, we’ll get sfa for this and well you know it. By the time FG dole this money out to themselves and their friends their will be very little left.

As if FG have all off a sudden been converted to acting for the national good and have become honest managers of public funds. Pull the other one.

Ah Irish tax payer, your ignorance is unreal. They may pay a charge in the north but they have No School books or school transport costs in the North
Both of these costs are covered in the rates charge paid by residents in the North, as well as no bin charges, NO water charges, cheap car tax, NO hospital 0r A&E charges, No road tolls, NO prescription charges, No house hold charge ( as a separate cost). Parks , lighting, ambulance, , High spec leisure centres. So who’s better off those paying a flat rate, or those paying for these services as separate charges. I have a feeling us in the south would gladly pay the rates amount paid in the north, as long as we got the services they get.

The vast majority of people in this country do not work at 6pm ya numpty. Maybe you do, but not most other people.

Spouting about how evil poor people wont do what their told is not a job.

Your posts are so bad that even your phone refuses to post them. Bad times.

I will not throw good money after a corrupt, overpaid government and public sector.

Snore, go to another country Tim…ur not needed here if you don’t contribute

As you have stated before Tim Tim you don’t agree with paying taxes so don’t worry about it….you surely still have a few Northern Bank notes squirreled away to keep you ticking over until the next bank…post office…cash in transit van etc etc…I could go on….

Mick,

Unlike you, I do not post under a pseudonym. I am not going to another country and I don’t have to. Why should I either. There are 600,000 other people who would dwarf you in that opinion. It’s not like any of the conservative Blueshirts can do the math, it’s their eternal ignorance of the situation that makes them do dumb to their showing in the polls if early elections happen.

I know sinn fein supporters and councillors, I have to say thats not a nice thing to say about them….but it is sooo true…

Oh.Because the Unionists are brighter perhaps :-|x-(

Hehe

Ahem loyalists are so intelligent all of a sudden.

Amadán

Breaking news if someone doesn’t protest over cuts then after awhile one would think we actually enjoy them ..silence in itself is a form of endorsement ..dont worry if Sinn Fein do manage to get something for the people due to protest then eveyrone will benefit even you Neil how great that would be eh…

Hey Brend. How about you and SF pay their way – then everyone will benefit…

Any bill comes in my door gets paid straight away O’Reilly now if the ESB tried to bill me twice for the same thing then out of respect for myself id have to say that’s not on and bang that bill in the bin .Just imagine telling someone you had no problem paying twice for the same thing they’d be calling the doctor and id be encouraging them.

Tell me, wat are you paying twice for? Water? Nope, successive governments subsidised this down thorough the years….u did nor pay for it….household charge…we weren’t paying that either…now we have to pay because we have an overpaid civil service and because the FF led government messed up the whole country… Now tell me, what are you double paying for again????

Mick curious where did “successive governments”get the money to pay for water,it wouldn’t have been from the taxpayer now would it?

Successive governments my friend borrowed borrowed borrowed….that’s where they got it from…can’t keep doing that…

Oh hold on, ye people don’t understand nor want to understand balancing books and the likes because it’s realty and kind of goes against yer take all but give nothing attitude…I shouldn’t have bothered!!!

And my friend borrowing means paying back which we are doing at the minute so no, you can’t have your free water any more, and free money to those that won’t find a job will have to be cut…and the croke park agreement will need to be thrown out…because we cannot keep borrowing borrowing borrowing…

Hey O’Reilly,
I pay my bills. How about the banks, unsecured bondholders, the wealthy, and YOU pay your own bills?