The depressing part is that a lot of the problems are caused by kids who haven’t been shown a better example, are reacting to a fucked-up domestic situation, or both.

As for the programmes that exist to give these kids support to help them function in society rather than becoming future inmates, well they’ve had their funding cut so we can bail out banks instead.
The people who make these decisions don’t use public transport, so they don’t have to deal with the social fallout.

Fair enough Davey

But is that really a concern for the people travelling and paying to travel on the Luas? No, its not. WHy should they have to put up with this disadvantage?

You don’t need a degree to know common decency.

It sounds melodramatic, maybe, but we need to motivate decent, ordinary people to “reclaim the city.” Let’s face it, law and order has disintegrated into nothingness, so if the Gardai and the Dept. Justice and the City Councils are inert, we need to light a fire under them. I’m not suggesting that anyone becomes a vigilante: I think that’s not only counter-productive but it only escalates violence. But we need to report EVERYTHING to all of the authorities. We need to write to every TD in our constituencies, highlighting our genuine concerns and asking what they plan to do about it. Likewise, we need to write to Alan Shatter and say that, in line with his Department’s customer service policy sattement, we expect a definitive answer. Ring Joe Duffy (I know his show is just a lamentable outlet for whingers, but it is publicity). Report bad behaviour on the Luas and elsewhere to the Gardai – don’t assume that someone else will. Write to the papers – broadsheet and tabloid. Mobilise a demonstration – march on the Luas HQ, march on the Dail, march on Dept. Justice. Film bad behaviour and email the clips to the Gardai (I’d love to upload it on Youtube, naming and shaming but it’s dodgy legal territory, unfortunately).

Giving out here is ineffective. If Shatter won’t get off his arse, WE have to.

There is only so much the Gdí can do. Once they are brought to court, it is up to the courts to impose a fine/sentence. The penalties need to be there for Judges to impose. It’s not that the Gdí & courts are the entire solution. They are part of it. It’s proper penalties to impress upon troublemakers that if you misbehave, there are consequences. Compel people to be accountable & responsible. Deduct penalties from their welfare &/or pay. What we are seeing is the result of the welfare generation. Never had to work. Never had to pay for their bad behaviour. Absolutely no accountability & responsibility for their behaviour. As a result, we have a lack of respect for anything. That results in this type of anti social behaviour. Again – any1 who wants to see what type of people we are talking about, travel the red line. That’ll change your mind.

So we need to figure out what WE can do. We need to find an effective way of standing up to these people.

“Of course being Ireland, we will have the usual bunch of bleedin’ heart do-gooders making excuses for them. Time to say “f*ck them”. People have a right to go about their journey in peace.” This should be in our national identity statement. Too many people being bankrolled and not understanding the effects on those around them. Or is that a contradiction?

I agree that the luas red line provides a great service. However the lack of security presence is a big turn off. These STT guys get on around Jervis and get off again around Swithfield and take another tram back into town. I don’t think I’ve ever seen security staff out on the Luas out as far as Tallaght or Saggart. I’ve been on it with groups of people drinking and smashing bottles and young lads setting off the emergency strop. On the second ocassion the driver had to come down and deal with the problem as there was no security on the tram at 9.30pm.

I’m sorry to point out a spelling mistake, but in it’s context it was hilarious, “setting off the emergency strop”, love it!

Ha ha. Lol. I got a new netbook and haven’t gotten used to the little keypad!

Because they have no personal accountability & responsibility. There is no deterrent for them & they know that. That has to change. The change starts with people not accepting it & demanding better. The parents of many of these a-holes are the same. The welfare generation who never had to contribute anything & don’t give a damn. Previous Govts are to blame for that & us for accepting it. Don’t get me started on the bleeding heart do-gooders. Well intention but naive

Leonardo,

You heard all this or seen it yourself ? The two are very different. Verging on hysteria there.

There is a problem, the issue under discussion is the Luas Red Line. I have heard a lot of things myself, whats really important is knowing fact from fiction.

Have you ever called the Gardai when you witnessed any type of anti social behaviour ?

Travel the red line a few times & u’ll soon get very fed up listening to the scangery version of those nasal inflections – in tracksuits.

Fair point

It seems u have upset alot of the Sorchas & Niamhs who travel the green line, Cpm !! “Roysch” !!

At least the Sorcha’s and Niamh’s don’t break the law, not bother to get an education or job and live off welfare for the entirety of their time in this world – while terrorising decent people trying to make the commute every day. Let’s demonise them a bit less and focus on the scumbags in the article.

Ah now, Muc Beag, you’re generalising.

Orts doesn’t always count as an education.
Also when you look at our insane tax system, especially with regard to property and finance, you’ll notice that the well-to-do are a pretty expensive bunch to have around,
once you take the cost of tax breaks into account.

I wasn’t demonising them, Muc Beag. A little light heartedness to lighten the mood.

Being from Dublin you get sick of the stereotype and often hostility from the other 3/4 of the population.

Green line has longer trams because it carries more people, I think. Not 100% sure though. It’s certainly not 75/25 red.

The info is in the article. It’s 45,000 daily on the Red Line vs 35,000 on the Green Line. Red Line carries 56% of all passengers.