No Stephen

Our failed teacher Leader was not cheating on his homework, he was simply using a different set of statistics.

Ah, i see.
thanks for clearing that up.
now i can pay my usc, property charge, water charge, increased prsi and carbon taxes with a clear conscience and a happy heart.
not to mention the relief of not having to worry about my 70-odd year old parents’ health and well-being.
we’re obviously all in safe hands.

A dog is always optomistic when each morning it gets a pat on the head instead of a kick up the arse. Theres a good boy enda, theres a good boy.

The light at the end of the tunnel is a f&ckin blowtorch

Better the idiots you want, than the liars you don’t.

I’m confused. Who are the idiots and who are the liars??

Not a seperate group,idiots and liars the lot of them.

Bailout 2014 is on track.

If very much off track.

Our bond yields have dropped significantly in recent months.

We sold €8bn in bonds last year, we’ve just sold a €1bn of BOI bonds and we sold €2.5bn of state bonds last week.

All sales massively oversubscribed.

While we’re buying all this extra debt David, remind me again how much has and will be paid to unsecured bondholders while under the FG administration ????????

Your furer thinks my pockets are bottomless.!

See all that Davy that’s guna disappear into a black hole of debt are they telling you the truth up there at all the country is not a business lad .

I really need a drink…

I think I will join you, your shout!

Agree 100%. The censorship or self-censorship scares the hell out of me.

Do you have a plan?

Other than going for a drink.

Go on then, a pint of Jameson yeh?

I have loads but nobody wants to listen to a commie Damo

@ Damo
It is a bit late for what I would have done but a radical change in how our political ‘system’ operates would be the first thing.

The government has ignored all the sensible plans in favour of maintaining the status quo. They have done NOTHING for the country.
Can’t be long now before they start talking about another bail out. Will they be hinting at it before the end of the year I wonder?

TD pay untouched? Get your facts right.

http://youtu.be/10Pmeafeqyw

I will use my vote. What will you do Damo? Watch the football.

Can I have a visa with that drink

@ David.

I’m sorry I shouldn’t have said the TDs pay wa untouched.

They fiddled around and played with it like an unwanted dinner.

Hardly worth talking about percentage wise considering the scandalous pay they receive and a lot of them continue to take the piss with expenses.

Have you any problems with my other points or have you run out of gas?

Looks like he ran out of gas.

whats your point though howsaboutya? Are you just listing off things that you don’t like? What would you have done differently? sounds like you think that maybe we should just give up?

It is a pointless exercise to cut TD’s pay unless you put a cap on their expenses !

@ Chris.

no. never give up.

I can’t be writing a business plan for Ireland inc at my desk here but the like I said a big change is required from th way politics is in Ireland.

The parish pump, no accountability, career politicians, the familiar family names, stroke politics that has caused most of our problems.

people have lost faith in our government and are starting to give up. in all this adversity there is a great opportunity to get this place goin again.

We are educated people, still loved all over the world because we are not seen as a threat or having any old history of bad blood ie France/England Russia/USA etc.

A political party and politician can say anythin to get into power and no accountability if they run rough shod over the elderly and th people who voted them in. If I sell a car and it breaks I have to fix it or end up in court.

we all need to stop bickering among ourselves and attaching to a party. can we all agree public and private sector, unemploymed and elderly, left and right that we can do better.

I’m reading into direct democracy and will look further into it.

I deserve a drink, good night

I watched that and thought I accidental tuned into xpose as they were commenting on their ties matching being a good sign.

The Troika isnt the only party without faith in the Government ability ..we dont have any faith in them either…I wish they would stop pretending to the Irish people that “we have turned a corner” there are “green shoots appearing” …neither of these things is true…we are in a bad place, nobody has any money (except Tds) and nobody has a plan ..when we turned that corner they keep talking about we fell into a big black hole and somebody stole the ladder for climbing out. I sound depressed dont I ..well I am not….. I am mad as hell at the mess this country is in…

Does anyone other than thems selves

oh vincent where art thou!

Writing Enda’s speech

@Frank- I was putting in a days work. Someone has to pay for all those socialist giveaways you dream of. Yesterday WAS good news. This is a statement of opinion. Amazing how the very same people on here who daily rage against the Troika today regard their word as Gospel? The reality is there’s a myriad of factors that will impact on our performance. Nobody knows for sure. And surely the Government is doing the bidding of you lefties by being over-optimistic….softening the Troikas calls for harsher austerity.

fair dues vincent,
public or private sector?, private meself
instead of enda backing us out of that ditch i think hes put the car in the wrong gear and hes gone and got it rightly banjaxed

Fair dues is right! I mean to come on here and try to defend the frankly indefensible yet again is applaudable. You truly are a party die hard fanatic. I don’t know if I should pity you or despise you. Vincent I send my condolences your way. I’m sorry for your loss of any reality. May god be with you.

Frank and Ryan hanging off the every word of the Troika. Who’d have thought?

now you know thats not true vincent you know i have always said the boys arent up to it

can you explain such a difference in opinion between the troika and the government and why that has existed for some time now

Yes, Frank. The Troika are looking at things purely from a cold, European economic perspective. The Government has a broader set of considerations. Ye would be whining if our Government didn’t differ from the Troika.

The ego of some of the regular comenters here is amazing. They give such weight to their own opinions……..

i was talking about the bank deal but you knew that,
i am going to be quite sincere here vincent as i think your contributions on this site make for good debate.
before the general election i wasant that keen on enda but what he was saying was right, he actually had a measured and workable plan and even though i was a leftie he made sense to me. the 5 point plan was a good framework. he was duly elected and it all went out the window. sorry i would like to give him credit for one thing after that, his handling of the enquiry into the church was excellent and for it i will be eternally grateful. everything else has been a disaster. I have been trying to find something to compare it to and the only thing that keeps coming into my head is the father ted episode, the eurovision one. dougal and ted have a good plan, albeit a bit dodgy, they pick a song and practice it . its a good song and they have it off perfectly.
just before they go on they change their minds because they think they will be caught for cheating, oblivious to the fact that everyone else around them are at it. they go on stage and the rest as we all know is history.
I fear this is the way it is going to end for us too

What?? We aren’t even in the tunnel with the light at the end – we are only turning the corner to to tunnel … Ah crap!

But “We are where we are!!!!”
“Moving forward!!”
When it really means…
“Phew!! We’re ripping the s**t outta the poor, sick, unemployed , and the general workforce, but thank god the bondholders are getting their unsecured investments paid!!!!!

Get rid of them before February.. shame is that they have tied our hands together behind out backs, also our feet in a ball and chain, then they feed us sh*te through the media.
Makes it very difficult for any of to do anything.
They have been paid far too much and why should they get a huge pension payoff fr annihilation of the country.

Fine Gael supporters work for a living

Yup. Working for Europe but not the Irish people. Working very hard Vincent.

Ryan- doing, rather than talking.

@scrap- Fine Gael have absolutely protected the middle class.

Raped the middle class. We are now the working poor! Thanks to the soft and flaccid leadership shown by Enda Kenny. And before you start on your fairytales about a future bank deal, save yourself the bother. We want a write down of this debt that is not ours! Not a baby bank deal thrown to us like scraps off the dinner table.

Vote Sinn Fein in. See how the Middle Class are then.

Vincent. He took €58 pm child allowance plus €5pw from prsi. College fees up. Pint up. Car tax up. Property tax in July and water tax after that. And I pay EXACTLY the same as someone on half my money.

He didn’t touch dole/rent allowance at the bottom or pension relief at the top. PS since before 1995 will only suffer €12 a year drop because of the prsi change.

Enda has robbed the middle classes

Vlad the Impaler would show more mercy

I think I might just do that. I may as well give them a go since the FFgOFF parties have done nothing but run the country straight to Europe-slave-ville on a gravy train that’s something akin of the orient express. Choooo Chooo

@scrap- yep. That €5 per week is killing the middle class. Income tax. The big one. Untouched.

The majority of Irish People are saying the very same as you @Gis.

And we have at least 10 more years of this BS! I’v had enough.

Until we all stop paying our taxes, the senseless rape of our wages will continue!

I thought they were being optimistic too … expecting me to pay a property tax!

Exactly, they are feeding us crap so they can turn around at the last minute and say ” unfortunately we didn’t bring in as much as anticipated, therefore we will have to raise mire in tax and cut further”.
Drip fed to stop riots, death by a thousand cuts..

@michael- counting down the days until its extracted at source from your bank account.

It’s just so pathetic how excitedly so many on here on pointing to hearsay/opinion in the hope that it means this country is turning the corner. It’s so sad that so many want our nation to fail. Ye should be ashamed.

That’s a bullsh!t accusation, Vincent. Nobody wants the “country to fail”, but we want policies that are actually effective.

The Troika clearly won’t be happy till every element of the state is sold off for a song to international investors, to service spurious “debt”, I think we should take their view with a pinch of salt.

But your Blueshirts, apologists and fellow travellers aren’t helping things by trying to make out that we’re doing great when we clearly aren’t.

That corner is right beside the soft landing, which was also foreseen. Why didn’t we listen to David McWilliams?

From what I can see from reading the comments on journal articles today, people don’t like Europe and feel they have done nothing for us , people don’t like the government and know they screwed us over and are still screwing us over and don’t care, just tell them lies keep them happy. SO WHY THE HELL ARE WE NOT DOING SOMETHING MORE RADICAL, we are this country the Irish citizens why are we letting them do this majority people don’t want this! ! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

What they failed to tell you is that the corner is only profitable for ladies with short skirts and fishnet stockings.

Well Jim,

When we find this corner we will hope our way down the tunnel and I will meet you @ the mini skirts.

Do they accept bonds?
Adebayo

Are you afraid?