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Watch: Rick Perry forgets which agencies he wants to abolish in debate gaffe

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REPUBLICAN PARTY PRESIDENTIAL hopeful Rick Perry says he would eliminate three US federal agencies. Just don’t ask him to name them.

“Commerce, Education and the — what’s the third one there? Let’s see,” the Texas governor said during a debate last night.

Perry’s rivals tried to bail him out, suggesting the Environmental Protection Agency.

“EPA, there you go,” Perry said, seemingly taking their word for it.

But that wasn’t it. And when pressed, the candidate drew another blank.

“Seriously?” moderator John Harwood, one of CNBC’s debate hosts, asked. “You can’t name the third one?”

“The third agency of government I would do away with — the Education, the Commerce. And let’s see. I can’t. The third one, I can’t,” Perry said. “Oops.”

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Later in the debate, Perry revisited the question and said he meant to call for the elimination of the Energy Department.

The immediate fallout was brutal — at least on Twitter. ”Perry response will be on highlight reels for years to come,” business legend Jack Welch tweeted.

“Off screen, Dr (Ron) Paul is sadly administering the last rites to Rick Perry,” Republican strategist Mike Murphy added. “Dr Paul filling out paperwork as they haul Perry away. He’s ruling it a suicide.”

“Rick Perry just lost the debate. And the entire election. You only had to name three,” Tim Albrecht, the top spokesman for Iowa Governor Terry Branstad, who is unaligned in the GOP race, tweeted from his personal account.

Damage control

After the debate, Perry appeared to be in damage control mode.

In dramatic fashion, he bee-lined it to the so-called “spin room” where a crush of reporters were gathered to interview campaign surrogates — and he immediately indicated that he knew he had made a really bad mistake.

The first words out of his mouth as reporters crowded around: “I’m glad I had my boots on because I really stepped in it tonight,” he said.

Still, Perry almost seemed to minimize the impact, adding: “People understand that it is our conservative principles that matter.”

“We all felt very bad for him,” Michele Bachmann, the Minnesota congresswoman also running for the nomination, said after the debate, calling the moment uncomfortable.

The next few days will shed light on whether voters care about the misstep — and punish him for it.

Over the past two weeks, Perry has sought to prove he’s still a credible challenger to Republican Mitt Romney by rolling out detailed policy proposals.

But he’s found himself dogged by suggestions that he had been drinking or taking drugs when he gave an animated speech in New Hampshire.

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It went viral online, prompting Perry to state that he was not, in fact, under the influence of a substance.

NBC’s “Saturday Night Live” did a Perry parody last weekend that was widely viewed.

In recent days, the candidate started to take his message directly to the voters by running sunny biographical television ads in early primary states like Iowa and New Hampshire. It’s an effort to re-introduce himself to Republican primary voters in a safer setting that circumvents the news media.

Struggling

Wednesday was the latest tough debate for the GOP candidate who has struggled in the national spotlight since entering the race in August, the last time he was at the top of polls. His standing has fallen throughout the fall, and he’s fighting to gain ground less than two months before the leadoff Iowa caucuses.

He has committed to four more debates — in a year when the GOP electorate is clearly tuned into them — but his advisers are considering skipping future ones.

Presidential debates have offered pivotal moments for decades, from Al Gore’s audible sighs in 2000 to Michael Dukakis’ tepid answer about the death penalty in 1988.

A statement by Gerald Ford in a 1976 presidential debate is among the most memorable, however. Ford famously baffled audiences when he said, “There is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe.” Later pressed by the moderator, he refused to back down. The moment haunted the rest of his losing campaign.

Publicly Perry aides sought to downplay Wednesday night’s shaky answer.

“We had a stumble of style and not substance,” insisted Ray Sullivan, Perry’s top communications adviser. “He still named two more agencies than this president (would eliminate).”

Perry had no public schedule on Thursday and planned to privately raise money at events in Tennessee. His next public campaign stops were scheduled in South Carolina on Friday — a day before yet another debate.

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Comments (18 Comments)

  • RDX862 10/11/11 #
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    Love the irony of conservatives booing one of the debate hosts when she asked Herman Cain about the multiple sexual harassment revelation and then cheered when the topic of was changed.They are even trying to pull the race card.

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    • Niall Mulligan 10/11/11 #
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      Cain is still the frontrunner, right? Hard to credit, given the wackiness of his campaign to date, even aside from the sexual harassment (warning, contains Rachel Maddow):

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UySTT-rxwSs

      It’s almost as if the Republicans realise that the Presidency is a poisoned chalice at the moment, and are happy to let the Dems have it.

      http://www.buffalobeast.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/herman-cain-creepy-smile.jpg

    • Shanti Om 10/11/11 #
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      This is mad.. The person leading all the polls for who the American people want to see as their next republican candidate is Ron Paul – and the media are ignoring him..

      Cain seems really dodgy – did you see the face he pulls at the end of that surreal campaign video? It was an “I’m going to eat your children” face like in some movie, that’s before we even mention his sex life..

      And as for Perry, the guy who had all school going children FORCIBLY vaccinated with the HPV vaccine which has had no long term safety trials carried out on it (he made those school kids take place in the long term safety study, with no consideration to their or their parents wishes)
      Perhaps his brain freeze is as a result of too much pharmaceutical industry brainwashing.. They’re obviously funding his campaign..

      I dunno.. When you hear news reports where they can tell you who is in the polls and not mention who is leading them that’s suspicious..

      Mind you.. This is a country that has an electoral college, so even if the people vote for the wrong presidential candidate the electoral college can always put it right..

    • Niall Mulligan 10/11/11 #
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      Good point … doesn’t seem to be any rational basis for the media’s picking a frontrunner. Hard to know what to believe – haven’t heard anything about Ron Paul in months, nearly thought he’d dropped out.

      Would’ve thought that Cain was pretty much unelectable, but at the same time…

    • Shanti Om 10/11/11 #
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      Well George Dubya got in twice even though he wasn’t voted for so go figure..
      America has never really had a democracy so long as the Electoral College (who arent elected!!) exists, they won’t..

    • RDX862 10/11/11 #
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      What polls are they? Ron Paul is a libertarian running in a Republican primary. The guy has political positions where nearly everybody will find some issue that they will agree with but his whole package does not appeal to the majority of people. Republicans like his positions on financial issues, smaller government, gun control, etc, but then they wouldn’t like his positions on abortion, gay marriage, marijuana, etc.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_Republican_Party_2012_presidential_primaries

  • Joe Sixtwo 10/11/11 #
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    Rick Perry is stark raving bonkers, a religious nut job with end of times in mind.

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  • Fill3rup 10/11/11 #
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    Its funny that the contoversy is over him fluffing his lines,but no one is horrified that he wanted to get rid of the Education Department? The world is fucked..

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    • RDX862 10/11/11 #
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      The Federal Education Department is a relatively new thing (1980) and compared to some of their other ideas it is not that bad of an idea. All the states have their own education departments.

    • Pilib O Muiregan 10/11/11 #
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      He wants to get rid of the Fedral Education department. 26% of all money spent by this department goes to the classroom. So when he says he wants to get rid of the Education Department he just wants to give more power to each state on education.

    • Niall Mulligan 10/11/11 #
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      And anyway, state schooling’s for poor people. They should know their place, and not get uppity.

    • RDX862 10/11/11 #
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      Something like nearly 90% of students in the US attend state public schools so not sure what your talking about?

    • Kevin sweeney 11/11/11 #
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      The department of education is a federal agency, with no constitutional authority and therefore should be abolished. All education policy in the US should come from the local level. Most republicans agree with this, including Ron Paul.

  • Neil 10/11/11 #
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    It’s got to be Romney surely. And he’s very likely to beat Obama with Europe dragging down the US economy even more.

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    • Jack Dermody 10/11/11 #
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      While Romney is the GOP best shot… He is not hugely liked and Democrats will go to town on him over Flip Floping… The other GOP nominations are truely terrible but as they pull out the religious could gavitate to one candidate…
      Nothing guarenteed just yet.
      It is not a sure bet by any means…

    • Peter Nolan 10/11/11 #
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      The most sane candidate in terms of actual ability to beat Obama would be Huntsman, but he’s practically a non-entity in the race at a time when the Republicans have no stomach for any namby pampy moderate, centrist views.

      Romney is the next best choice, from the point of view of the Republicans actually winning, but polls carried out in the US indicate even he would lose against Obama (though it would be close). All the other potential candidates, such as Perry or Cain, lag a good 15% behind Obama in head-to-head polls.

      At the moment, an Obama win seems quite likely (due in part to the poor quality of the Republican candidates, and in part to voter disenchantment with Republican economic principles being even greater than their disenchantment with Obama’s efforts to fix things). Of course, it’s very early days yet and anything could happen over the next year.

  • Pilib O Muiregan 10/11/11 #
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    The American media have already decided the two from runners. Ron Paul is getting very little coverage, he wants to audit and eventually replace the Federal Reserve. This is not going down to well with the big business interests in America, and that is why we hear very little about the man who in a poll a couple of months ago was the only republican to be ahead of Obama

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