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TWO WOMAN HAVE sustained serious injuries following a two-car collision in Co Monaghan this morning.
The incident happened on the R180 between Carrickmacross and Ballybay at Killarue at around 10.15am.
A passenger of one of the cars, a woman aged in her 50s, was taken to Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital, Drogheda, with serious injuries.
The driver of this vehicle, a woman aged in her 20s, was taken to Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital, Drogheda, with non-life threatening injuries.
A passenger of the second car, a woman aged in her 60s, was taken to the same hospital with serious injuries.
The driver, a man aged in his 60s, and a passenger, a woman aged in her 40s, of this car were also taken to Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital, Drogheda, with non-life threatening injuries.
The scene of the collision is preserved for technical examination by Garda Forensic Collision Investigators.
The road is currently closed and local diversions are in place.
Gardaí in Carrickmacross are appealing to anyone who may have witnessed this collision to contact them.
Any road users who were travelling in the area of Killarue, Carrickmacross, Co Monaghan between 9.30am and 10.30am, and who may have camera footage (including dash-cam), are asked to make this available to gardaí.
Anyone with any information is asked to contact Carrickmacross Garda Station on 042 969 0190, the Garda Confidential Line on 1800 666 111, or any garda station.
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Yes. Rural areas have been badly hit…the way some people go on , you would think its party time in all pubs. Its not. Bit common sense is needed.
@LITTLEONE: Agreed. Most counties should open except for Dublin and Offaly.
@Caoimhín: I actually agree with this
@Caoimhín: Why Offaly – cases there haven’t been exceptional lately?
@LITTLEONE: they can do anything else….
@LITTLEONE: you are seriously deluded if you can’t foresee exactly what pubs are going to be like reopening after being closed for so long. People are going to be drinking even more to make up for lost time and all common sense will fly out the window. Then, you’ll all be whinging if everything is closed again.
@Caoimhín: Why Offaly?
Have we not already had this poll? Yes, absolutely pubs need to be allowed to open. They’ve been given a date and need to be able to order stock and roster staff in confidence. We cannot push back the date for the fourth time, it would be totally unfair.
@Newto2016:
Unfair is people not taking this seriously and adhering to the guidelines that most of us follow thus prolonging the full reopening of this island.
@Philip King ⚡️: Zzzzz. Same auld argument. There are “wet pubs” open all over the place already. These have been serving for months and should be shut down, let the majority of places that will definitely enforce the guidelines open up.
@Alan Wright: I’m not arguing for them to stay closed or open up.
I’m pointing out the fact that it’s the public that have mismanaged this.
We own the responsibility for this prolonged situation.
Everyone pointing fingers but nobody taking responsibility because they got bored and couldn’t sit this out.
Should have had it wrapped up by now. Look at NZ.
@Philip King ⚡️: we definitely don’t. The general public didn’t advise nursing homes to stay open, the general public didn’t allow meat factories operate however they wanted, the general public didn’t run the health service so poorly that it’s basically not set to handle an increase in cases.
@Aidan O’ Neill: whataboutery?
Take responsibility for yourself.
@Philip King ⚡️: how is my message whataboutery compared to your nonsense? You actually can’t counter anything I’ve said there so that’s your response. I take plenty responsibility for myself. The general public is not responsible for irresponsible meat factories or the nursing homes debacle.
@Philip King ⚡️: I think its very silly to act as if the general public have done something wrong. The majority of people have been following guidlines and will continue to do so, the virus has been slowed down. Every country in the world will have some people that dont care about guidlines. From what I see Ireland has less than most.
@Shane Barry: I was specifically talking about those who ignore the guidelines.
My belief is that the naming of traditional pubs as ‘as wet pubs’ has stigmatised these businesses and cant help make the comparison to wet markets. This virus is reported to have started in a wet market in Wuhan and i have never heard of an Irish pub called a wet pub prior to that
@Danny Garvey: That’s a connection I hadn’t consciously made before, good one Danny. It’s an unhelpful choice of term to be sure.
@Danny Garvey: I remember the terms from the army (Irish) 20 years ago with wet referring to the mess where you could get alcohol. Specifically that soldiers aged 17 could not enter a wet mess unless there was nowhere else to get food.
@Danny Garvey:
It is also used for homeless shelters that allow alcohol.
I assume the connection is to do with being able to drink alcohol on the premises and helps to differentiate between pubs that also sell food.
It has nothing to do with wet markets in China.
@Crocodylus Pontifex: them those that mean a pub that serves food and drink can also be classified as a wet mess…
stop calling them “wet pubs”!
@Margaret Henry: why? Does that make you uncomfortable?:-)
@Margaret Henry: Maybe “moist” would be better. Moist of them are still closed.
@Margaret Henry:
OK…. They should be called Damp pubs….. Feel better now???
@Joe Toner: As in when will those damp pubs open up again. Tried my 3 local pubs at 5pm today to watch Liverpool v Leeds game on tv,have a few pints. Due to restrictions,they were all “full” Couldn’t get in,even though normally you’d have your pick. Pubs losing business big time
@Larry Betts:
I can’t see pubs returning to places of entertainment and good old fun. The death nell is sounding for the demise of the art of drinking at your local as we knew it.
@Joe Toner: You’re right Joe. Unfortunately. Wanted to spend an innocent couple of hours watching live football on tv with fellow supporters. Doesn’t matter we mightn’t know each other,but you all cheer for your team. Have a drink,enjoy the game,go home. Kick off was 5.30,not like you’re gonna celebrate like Ireland has won the World Cup. Simple pleasures like watching football on tv in a pub seems so alien now.
@Larry Betts:
I worked at the bar trade for nearly 20 years and the craic was somthing else. Actually there was a guy by the name of Joey Betts who I used to drink with…. He was a real old Dub… Them were the days!!
@Joe Toner: Hiya Joe! The surname Betts is not too common in Ireland,especially in Dublin and don’t know that Joey fellah. Where in Dublin did you work in pubs? My Granny used to own Meagher’s on Richmond Rd. Fairview donkeys years ago
@Larry Betts:
Larry,
I worked in the Bleeding Horse in Camden St. Its now the Falcon Inn and in Murray’s on Bath Ave. To name but a few. That was before the formica and bright lights.
Only serious drinking and endless spoofing was tolerated but that was many years ago. I miss it a lot.
@Joe Toner: Give me a shout on Facebook Joe,if you can. Click on my profile and send a message. You seem a decent guy to chat to,full of sense,none of this nonsense. If you want that is,just friendly banter.
@Larry Betts:
Delighted to do that Larry. Will give you a shout tomorrow.
Definitely!!
Yes of course! That’s what we’ve wanted, especially now. My friends can’t come to my house as we will be more than 6, but we can meet in the pubs. Win-win!
Absolutely 100%
YES. Sick of been in lockdown at this stage. Time for the great escape.
@Peter Coen: What “lockdown” are you in, exactly? Free to go for a pint and a meal, free to go to work, free to send the kids to school, free to travel, free to play sport… the only things you’re not free to do is attend large-number events, nightclubs and go to a pub that doesn’t serve food. It’s not perfect, but it’s not exactly the gulag, is it? Some of us remember what a lockdown actually is, pounding the pavements of a 2km stockade (and that’s not a fraction of what people in China and Spain endured), and we really don’t want to to back to it.
@Tordel Back: I live in a small village with one pub. On a usual weekend it would have regulars in, no music, no madness, but it has been closed for 6 months now. It is the owners only lively hood. If it were to close for good our village would have nothing, we dont even have a shop.
@Shane Barry: the pub could open a pop-up shop and off licence
Were did the word “Wet Pub’s” come from? It’s a horrible word to use, and they should have been open months ago, stop house parties.
@Heisen berg1:
because they just serve drinks? is that so difficult to understand?
More outbreaks in coffee shops than pubs in Ireland so far and that’s official. No reason or data that pubs should not open under the current guidelines once publicans and customers adhere to the guidelines.
no. when will people understand that the virus is as active as it has been since the start. this isnt going to go on forever so it is simply a matter of waiting. we shouldnt let impatience get the better of us
@alan: Alan Alan Alan Alan thats not Alan…Steve
@Anthony Edward Healy: I got it but it’s for a certain audience.
@Anthony Edward Healy: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XgvR3y5JCXg :)
The current system is illogical. Bars getting in takeaways and serving them can open but a small rural pub with no access to food can’t!!!
The vast majority of Publicans are responsible people and will adhere to the restrictions, simply because they don’t want to cause harm to their regular customers.
Those that flout the restrictions should be shut down immediately and have their licence removed with a lifetime ban on ever gaining another licence.
@Mick.: 3 of our local pubs have a deal with Supermacs. Laughable really ,eating a papa johns pizza in the snug of an old man bar.
@Mick.: It does all come down to compliance. 8,000 pubs and only 14,000 Gardaí, like everything else it will only work if people buy into it.
Still, imagine being the Acting CMO and coming on every night begging people to reduce their social contacts, and then every time he looks at the news or social media it’s just people desperate to get back to the pub, and the government telling them they can.
No, people will crowd in and this virus will spread like wildfire – pubs where people go for a quiet one would be alright but the likes of Temple Bar, etc. would cause problems like it getting into schools in a big way
Yes. Absolutely and travel as well .
I never heard of a dry pub
They sshould be opened up except where the numbers are very high especialy in Dublin
Needed an option…. yes but only in areas where the virus is deemed to be under control……
Since everyone insists on using the term ‘wet’ pubs, is it reasonable to assume that the premises already open, and serving a €9 substantial meal, will have to continue to do so? So if you want a few drinks, you visit a ‘wet’ pub only, you are obliged to buy food in the places already open?
@Seosamh Mac Cionnaith: That won’t be the case. Reckon it’s time to pick up secondhand pizza ovens and deep-fat fryers on the cheap.
What is it with pubs and the Irish?
We treat them like they are religious buildings central – they are not, they are just rooms in which they sell an overpriced alcohol. Nothing more.
When open there will be no social distancing and with gangs of university students back at College, the corona virus will have a field day.
Just wait until mid-October and let’s see what the Covid19 infection rate is like.
If you out in an option of “wet pubs opening in areas where transmission is low” I would have taken the poll.
People need jobs. Socially isolated people need contact with humans.
Yes, but only cause its fair, there’s ‘wet’ pubs using the chippers next door as their food, as long as that shit continues we’re all in trouble, open them all and control it, or close them all and bite the bullet. BTW, I love pubs, Temple Bar my second home Friday to Sunday
@Bopper Bops Holland: You an American tourist?
They may open, but I suspect that most people will stay away. In the same way as so many people have decided to stay working from home.
Pointless article.
Use them or lose them…?
What is it with pubs and the Irish?
We treat them like they are religious buildings central – they are not, they are just rooms in which they sell an overpriced alcohol. Nothing more.
When open there will be no social distancing and with gangs of university students back at College, the corona virus will have a field day.
Just wait until mid-October and let’s see what the Covid19 infection rate is like.
As with so many poll questions, this is not really the right one. It does not differentiate between a small pub with a regular clientele and a huge drinking emporium. The first type should certainly reopen. The clientele are unlikely to become boisterous and flout the regulations. The latter type … I don’the know. The possibilities for disorder are much greater. The real problem is not the pubs but the people who don’t see the need for restraint.
There’s no such place as a ‘Wet Pub’ Pubs are Pubs & that nonsense about having to have a meal to have a Pint is just unbelievable. All Pubs with Pub licences should be treated equally provided they agree to the social distancing rules.
Nope open pub due high case rise
The question in my mind is, what’s going to happen when word get’s out that someone who has been drinking at the local pub comes down with COVID? Will everyone else who was drinking there be tested? Will the pub be closed temporarily? And either way, will people go back to the pub or will it be avoided thereafter like… the plague?
I couldn’t be arsed drinking in pubs without a roof
Don’t you need a food licence to sell food in a pub? If that is the case why get a licence in the first place if all you have to do is ring the local chipper. This food thing is all over the place. People are getting forced fed just to get a pint and a lot are still coming out drunk. Its time for all the pubs to open, at least that way people can spread out instead of everyone going to the same place. Its also unfair on peoples lifes depend on there pub.
If they don’t open them pubs soon they won’t open ever again especially the pubs outside Dublin,
Wet pubs (wet) market………………..
Yes of course
@last and its not a case of dying for a pint.. I’m in the industry 27 years I’ve been out of work since march 15th I’ve a family to support, mortgage, loans etc to pay. And with Christmas approaching I need to earn a living.. I also miss our loyal customers.. Its gonna be different when we return to work.. But we need our employment. So those who say no just think about me and fellow members of hospitality industry who need to return to their jobs
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