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Minister says interest from politicians to learn new constituency boundaries is 'red-hot'

The Minister for Public Expenditure said there was much ‘speculation’ on the redrawn boundaries.

PUBLIC EXPENDITURE MINISTER Paschal Donohoe has said there is “red-hot interest” across the political system for the upcoming completion of the electoral constituency review. 

The publication of the population figures as per the latest Census meant the Electoral Commission had to report and make recommendations in relation to constituencies regarding the number of elected members to the Dail and the election of MEPs.

At the end of May, the CSO said Ireland’s population had increased by 8% to 5.15 million in Census 2022.

Under the Irish constitution, the number of members of Dail Eireann cannot be fixed at “less than one member for each 30,000 of the population or at more than one member for each 20,000 of the population”.

The ratio between the number of elected members for each constituency and the population of each constituency should, where practicable, be the same throughout the country.

Under provisions of the Constitution, the Commission must recommended that the number of members in the Dail be not less than 171 but not more than 181.

There are currently 160 members.

Additionally, each constituency should have between three and five elected members.

The commission has to consider other matters such as ensuring constituencies are contiguous areas, avoid breaching county boundaries, and having regard to significant physical geographic considerations.

In relation to European Parliament constituencies, the number of members elected is deemed by European treaties.

The highly-anticipated review has the potential to shake-up the political arithmetic of the Dail in the future.

Speaking to reporters at Government Buildings to launch of a plan to increase use of centralised procurement arrangements, Donohoe said: “When the maps come out and we will sit down to unfold the maps to see what the boundaries of our constituency are going to be, there is a red-hot interest all over the political system in what will be the conclusions from the Commission.

“There’s much speculation from many of my colleagues regarding what the maps will look like and I know that at the end of August, they are going to be pored over by all of us to see what it means for our futures.”

He acknowledged that a previous change of boundaries impacted his “former and missed” party colleague Noel Rock, who lost his seat in 2020.

He said: “But this is why these maps and the location of these red lines will be studied by everybody in politics.

“And I, like everybody else, await with great interest to see what those maps are going to be.”

Donohoe said there was also an importance of “keeping up your work” with constituents.

“It is those efforts that we are all focusing on at the moment.”

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    Oct 5th 2023, 8:19 PM

    It’s the governments fault there is a homeless crisis. Taxing vacant houses won’t fix the housing crisis for the simple reason with inflation the majority of the Irish people couldn’t afford to buy one of these houses and then spend 10s of thousands to modernise them. All the government is doing is pointing the finger at their failure to build social and affordable housing at someone else while turning it into a money making scheme. The sad thing is the majority of commenters on here will fall for it.

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    Oct 5th 2023, 8:28 PM

    @: Bring back the window tax. All those Grand Designs inspired glass houses stuck to the back of bungalows. Way too much time on their hands. Tax opulence ffs. There was a time when showy offy A holes were frowned upon.

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    Oct 5th 2023, 8:39 PM

    Exactly blaming property owners and landlords as usual it’s nobody’s business what someone does with their property maybe the government should build thousands of affordable homes instead with the billions recieved in corporate tax.

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    Oct 5th 2023, 10:08 PM

    @Louis Jacob: The Brits brought that in to punish the poor. It’s the rich we should be punishing, they’ve got a free ride for far too long

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    Oct 7th 2023, 11:48 AM

    @: No they wont. Hpusing is not all the responsibility of the government. It’s not i the constitution.
    Developers and Vukture funds should be hit and hit hard.
    Council Management should be questioned as to why they are not doing more as shuld the Dept of Lical Government as the Minister says he wants housing built and quickly.
    You wil find the same people holding housing like a lot of things back.
    Givernment iofficals and teo of the parties wont spend on housing they prefer their own persobal projects.

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    Oct 5th 2023, 9:07 PM

    Property taxes only make sense in urban areas where there are actual services. In rural Ireland we pay thousands of euro to treat our own wastewater on site by way of a septic system, we have no street lighting, nor do we want any, we have private group water schemes which we already have to pay for, we pay higher standing charges for electricity and we pay more carbon tax through fuel tax to pay for roads so, No, no more taxes please and thank you.

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    Oct 5th 2023, 9:23 PM

    @MTB Mayo: unless you don’t live in your house and are leaving it empty why you be paying a vacant property tax?

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    Oct 7th 2023, 11:53 AM

    @MTB Mayo: In Dublin we pay property taxes and our money is then given to other councils to sort out theor issues.
    If DCC and the other Duublin Councils got our proplerty tax, we would be flying, roads fixed , footpaths fixed and all the rest.
    Instead they take our money and send it west!

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    Oct 5th 2023, 8:35 PM

    The landlords are being chased out, rental property has become a liability, over regulation has done what over regulation does , cut supply and push up rent.
    Get rid of the over regulation , and properties will become available to rent.
    This is sensible. However there is more and more disincentives to let property on the way, so there will be less property to rent, and more people who cannot afford a mortgage left without a home.
    This cycle is getting worse .

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    Oct 5th 2023, 10:12 PM

    @tk: Landlords aren’t being chased put of anywhere. All of the data shows this. That lie is lazy, but effective, neoliberal BS

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    Oct 7th 2023, 11:51 AM

    @tk: Over regulation, like for escapes and no damp.
    Sure lets go back to the 80s with a bang. Still plenty of them out there still.
    The call iused to be think of thr “poor Farmers” now it is thing of the “poor Landlords”.
    That has been worn out at this stage.

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    Oct 5th 2023, 9:04 PM

    Can the journal go any further left at this stage

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    Oct 5th 2023, 9:27 PM

    @Dixie diver: You really need to get out of the left-right mindset. It’s an illusion. What we actually have is globalists and their enablers vs nationalists. I am proud to say that I am the latter.

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    Oct 5th 2023, 10:11 PM

    @Dixie diver: more mindless trumpism

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    Oct 5th 2023, 10:46 PM

    @Dixie diver: hopefully

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    Oct 5th 2023, 9:00 PM

    Driving through any town or village in Ireland,it’s saddening and sickening how many previous homes or commercial properties are boarded up and lying idle. These need to be taken over if unused for more than 5 years. Refurbished into homes/reopened as startup business enterprises,community groups. Anything to bring back a bit of life to the community is better than locals passing by a decaying building every day.

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    Oct 5th 2023, 8:57 PM

    What the F is up with the Journal❓❗️
    Should be renamed ‘Comments Closed’.

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    Oct 5th 2023, 9:15 PM

    @No Label: and the spelling in this article is ‘unacceptible’

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    Oct 5th 2023, 10:13 PM

    Some years ago I considered buying a vacant property in a midland town. Terraced, structurally sound, just needed complete renovation inside. Price €15,000. Seemed like a bargain.
    That’s until I got an estimate for the renovations. It would have cost more than buying one of the adjacent properties that were in good condition. There’s the problem. Taxing the owner won’t solve that.

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    Oct 6th 2023, 12:04 PM

    @Fran Ken: if you can’t afford the renovations then simply sell up, because in ten years time the cost is gonna be double. You can also renovate in phases, you can shop around and see if you can get cheaper quotes. The idea of holding onto to properties for years and years because you can “afford” the renovation is why there’s so many empty places around the place.

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    Oct 5th 2023, 10:40 PM

    There was a change in law around 2014 that removed the decision making for local and county councils when it came to housing, that’s one reason house building stopped. The change of regulations around bedsits and houses converted into flats that removed them from the rental market led to a restriction in supply which has only gotten worse over time. The decision to allow outside investment in Irish properties, those pension funds and REITs, has proven to be a disaster for Irish society. In any situation the root cause can be traced to whomever is making money from what’s going on. FF and FG have engineered this over the last 26 years, be it through Charlie McCreevy’s reckless carelessness approved by Bertie Ahern that built our economy up to fall, Bertie’s corrupt attitude that led to his downfall, his abdication timed so that Brian Cowen was left with a clueless expression when the crash happened, the crash that had been warned about for years, the FG decisions from 2011 have developed on that to create this cold, heartless, money driven country we live in now. Shame on all of them for what they’ve collectively done to us

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    Oct 7th 2023, 11:58 AM

    @James K.: Left, left of what, theis is a centre article nowhere near left.
    So blame Bertie, easy shot. As Finanace Ministrer he brought us back fro the brink after FGtanked the economy.
    The teo who followed hin in that position who were party decisions messed it all up.
    After the two of them you had Noonan, so the workers and the pensioners etc were the last thing he and his party ever think of.
    FG cancelled the housing nobody else.

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    Oct 5th 2023, 9:46 PM

    Cry me a river Ciarán Casey. Thankfully you’re are just opinions, which I can tolerate. You might fit in well in a communist society, you’d probably run the local collective farm.

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    Oct 5th 2023, 10:10 PM

    @Chris Thaunton: and you might fit in well in a pile of Tories, in fact I’d say you would. Not an ounce of sense or compassion between ye

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    Oct 5th 2023, 10:42 PM

    Those hoarding property are working in the Dail

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    Oct 6th 2023, 4:02 AM

    Missing the point,the problem lays in the fact that many TD’s including Sinn Fein are landlords.Nothing will change.Any resources we have as a country has been sold off,NAMA is probably the biggest culprit of this,the rest of us still paying the bailout of the financial institutions while they still make enormous profits.We need to wake up we’re nothing but livestock

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    Oct 7th 2023, 12:00 PM

    @Trout: Prove it as the members property holding are all there to read.
    We have some who are big time into property but most are not. Mayve an office with a flat above it, or a flat in Dublin.

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    Oct 7th 2023, 12:44 PM

    This guy is an absolutely clueless communist, my whole childhood I grew up taking care of cows and pigs in a poor rural area in Eastern Europe, and now I’m 27 with a level 9 degree and house owner. “Few of us manage to climb far up the economic ladder in one lifetime”, yeah right, work your ass and stop waiting to be spoon fed by the government and you will climb anywhere you want! I know loads and loads of people who grew up in poor disadvantaged families and they managed to climb up economically, stop making excuses and get to work

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    Oct 7th 2023, 3:41 PM

    What a langer

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    Oct 6th 2023, 1:03 PM

    Lestat de Lioncourt, or a similar vampire could be hibernating beneath one of these houses. What? you don’t believe in vampires? Tis October.

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    Dec 7th 2023, 4:29 PM

    Spot on:

    “Soft Costs” have made housing unaffordable in Ireland.
    Now at 51% as per the Report: VAT, Council levies, inflated land prices …

    No VAT or other taxes on housing in other countries.
    Because, as every Economist knows, housing is a basic need and fundamental requirement for life and so cannot be taxed as with food, water, medicine, healthcare, education … etc.
    This is enshrined in the Constitutions of most other countries, France, Holland, Germany, Sweden …

    The Irish Constitution is badly flawed in this respect and needs to be urgently fixed by a Referendum on Housing to upgrade it. Why is this Referendum not run with the 2 proposed next Spring? … “Far from Right” to prevent citizens from fixing this badly damaging aspect of the Irish Constitution.

    No one can fix the Irish “Affordable” Housing crisis until this Referendum is passed – as clearly evidenced by the damming Society of Chartered Surveyors Ireland (SCSI) report. ………… Not even Sinn Fein!

    https://www.facebook.com/FamilyHomeReferendum/

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