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Antonio Guterres (l), Secretary General of the United Nations, speaks at a press conference at the UN Climate Summit COP27 Alamy Stock Photo

COP27: UN chief calls on countries to stop 'blame game' at deadlocked climate talks

Negotiators are scrambling to find a compromise over the contentious “loss and damage” issue.

UN CHIEF ANTONIO Guterres has urged rich and developing nations to stop the “finger pointing” at crunch climate talks and reach a deal on covering the losses suffered by vulnerable nations battered by weather disasters.

With the two-week COP27 conference officially due to wrap up tomorrow, negotiators in Egypt said the talks would likely go on overnight as they scramble to find a compromise over the contentious “loss and damage” issue.

Guterres said there was “clearly a breakdown in trust” between developed and emerging economies, adding that the most effective way to build confidence would be to find an “ambitious and credible agreement” on loss and damage and financial support for vulnerable countries.

“This is no time for finger pointing. The blame game is a recipe for mutually assured destruction,” he said.

“The time for talking on loss and damage finance is over – we need action,” he said, after flying back to Egypt from Bali where he had attended a G20 leaders meeting.

The intervention from the UN chief comes as the climate talks teeter on the edge of failure as poorer countries least responsible for global emissions lock horns with rich polluters over the creation of a “loss and damage” fund.

Ralph Regenvanu, minister of climate change for the Pacific island of Vanuatu, said walking out of the talks “was discussed as an option” if developing nations come away empty handed.

“We are out of time and we are out of money and we are out of patience,” he said at a news conference.

“We must establish at this COP27 a loss and damage finance facility.”

A 130-nation group known as G77+China issued a proposal to create the fund at the COP27 and agree on the nitty-gritty details at the next UN talks in Dubai in 2023.

After dragging their feet over loss and damage, the United States and European Union somewhat softened their position by agreeing to discuss the issue at COP27.

European Commission Vice President Frans Timmermans said the EU was open to the creation of a funding facility but that it should be among a “mosaic” of options that include existing financial instruments.

“We will do everything to find consensus,” he said, adding however that he expects “quite a long and difficult journey to the end of this process”.

“If this COP fails we all lose and we have absolutely no time to lose,” he told journalists.

Protests held within the conference compound have sought to keep up the pressure on delegates, with small but vocal crowds of demonstrators chanting: “What do we want? Climate justice!”

China’s role

Timmermans took issue with the G77+China proposal as it limits the donor base for a fund to a list of two-dozen rich nations drawn up in 1992.

The top EU official has pointed out that some countries, notably China, would be left “off the hook” from contributing to the fund even though they have grown wealthier since 1992.

“I’m still hopeful that we can reach an agreement on this, but then I do ask of our partners to make sure that it’s fair so that everybody who is in a position to contribute contributes,” Timmermans said.

Pakistan’s climate minister Sherry Rehman, whose country chairs the G77+China, said the group was still “seeking to find common ground even at this late hour”.

Rehman suggested that concerns from rich countries about liability could be addressed.

“For countries worried or anxious about liabilities and judicial proceedings, I think we can work around all those anxieties,” she said.

Rehman recalled that Pakistan was devastated by floods this year that cost the country $30 billion.

“Vulnerability should not become a death sentence,” she said.

“We are the ground zero of climate change,” she added. “We must convey a message of hope to all those people that have pinned their ambitions on this particular COP.”

Make-or-break

Guterres called for progress across the board on the goal of limiting warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius compared to preindustrial levels.

Rich nations should also finally deliver on their unmet pledge to provide $100 billion a year since 2020 to help the developing world green their economies and adapt to future impacts, and make progress on future financing.

Observers at the talks said loss and damage could be make-or-break for COP27.

“This is the issue around which the entire (COP)27 package hinges,” said Tom Evans, an expert on climate diplomacy at think tank E3G.

Laurence Tubiana, a main architect of the 2015 Paris Agreement as France’s top negotiator, told AFP a “possible landing zone for a compromise is not yet in view.”

“Things could really go off the rails at the end.”

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    Mute Aaron McKenna
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    Jun 13th 2012, 1:58 PM

    The biggest trouble with this working paper is that it’s a classic case of nuanced academia meets tabloid headlines.

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    Jun 13th 2012, 5:33 PM

    In this case, tabloid Irish Times coverage

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    Jun 13th 2012, 12:46 PM

    Again… What short term…
    My partner works… And makes just to much many to avail of family income supplement school allowances etc…. I need 33k to break even on childcare commute clothing cost when going to work.

    We are taxed up to the hilt….

    One of us at home… The other making a bit less would give us a higher expendable income and more time with our kids.

    Thing is psychological we need work. So now for 100 a month extra we hardly see our kids

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    Jun 13th 2012, 2:56 PM

    This report played right into the Krugman’s fallacy. People who work pay taxes, buy stuff (like child care) and generally support the employment of others. If more people go on the dole that has a strong negative feedback effect on the economy and their neighbors. Which is why, of course, austerity fails in a depression and stimulus works.

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    Jun 13th 2012, 6:23 PM

    Clearly there is nothing wrong with the paper which can be read on the Irish Times, instead what we have is political interference, the powers that be in the ESRI blocking Tol’s research and that suggests the ESRI are not an independent institution. Actually what conclusions can be drawn from this research is how hard it is for low earners to survive in this country, with 7000 to 9000 costs just clocked up yearly form actually going to work. It also makes a laugh of the governments jobsbridge scheme, which is actually costing those with least income in our society to take up these shtty dead-end “internships” because the government has done nothing about job creation.

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    Jun 13th 2012, 2:26 PM

    There is an important point here about the ubiquity of ecomonic commentators in Ireland at the current time. People seem to forget (and some economists don’t seem to realise) that life and society is much more complex than that which can be measured in pure economic terms. This is the same logic that looks at the value of culture only in terms of what it can pull in in hard tourist dollars.

    I felt some sympathy (but not too much!) for Moore McDowell on a recent Frontline debate when he was asked to comment on the economics of Arts funding in Ireland. His opinion was undermined before he opened his mouth by PK’s reference to Oscar Wilde’s aphorism about knowing the price of everything but the value of nothing and Michael Colgan was able to seize on this in his criticism of the narrow focus of economics.

    The ESRI, as its name suggests, has a remit beyond pure economics but it appears that this working paper leaned too heavily on that particular field of analysis.

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    Jun 14th 2012, 11:21 AM

    Does anyone know the purpose of the ERSI?

    And assuming it delivers on that purpose is it more important to our society than many of the services that have been slashed?

    Just askin’

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    Jun 14th 2012, 2:02 PM
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    Jun 14th 2012, 3:59 PM

    Thanks Brendan – I asked for that, so let me put the question a different way….

    How would Irish society be worse off if the ERSI didn’t exist?

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    Mute Brendan Kelly
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    Jun 14th 2012, 6:05 PM

    No problem Paul :)

    Well for a start we wouldn’t have any of the following publications: http://www.esri.ie/publications/latest_publications/

    ERSI reports are used to develop policy in relation to a wide range of areas. If there was no ERSI, there wouldn’t be the research, so there wouldn’t be any information to work off. So instead of the government of the day making crazed decisions based on the best possible evidence, they’d be making crazed decisions on no evidence at all.

    At 12.8 million in 2010 that information comes relatively cheaply, particularly if you consider that in the same year we spent €1.354 Billion on Defence.

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    Jun 13th 2012, 5:59 PM

    Nat,
    Just to clear something up – the word ‘unprecedented’ was used by the ESRI themselves in their statement last night, which is why we in The Irish Times used it. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0612/breaking49.html
    In the light of this, perhaps you might want to rephrase your introductory comments?
    Regards,
    Kilian

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    Jun 13th 2012, 7:24 PM

    I’d pay a few pennies to see the opening comment changed to “we checked to see if it was in fact ‘unprecedented’, which the Irish Times didn’t do.”

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    Jun 18th 2012, 11:11 AM

    Kilian,
    Fair enough. I’ve changed the original post to reflect this.
    http://www.progressive-economy.ie/2012/06/costs-of-working-in-ireland.html
    Regards,
    Nat

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    Jun 13th 2012, 2:19 PM

    where is my comment

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    Jun 13th 2012, 2:21 PM

    you are now censoring comments

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    Jun 13th 2012, 2:32 PM

    None of your comments have been deleted from this piece Seamus. Was it on one of the other articles about Richard Tol, perhaps?

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    Jun 21st 2012, 8:53 AM

    Well, back for a second small bite, after reading the paper, these and other posts and comments, it is clear that the paper is assigning costs for short term unemployment in a booming economy, while the inference, which the authors have not denied is for long term unemployment, e.g. people who stop working in order to take advantage of the short term differential.

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    Jun 15th 2012, 1:31 AM

    According to Tol himself the “takeaway” food figure is overall spend on convenience food, NOT just lunch money. I suspect the clothing figure of 25 a week is also overall spend and not just for work. Correcting that would make a big difference to the results.

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    Jun 13th 2012, 2:38 PM

    Well Christine another comment has not gone up.???.

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    Jun 13th 2012, 2:41 PM

    There’s no record in the system of you leaving any other comments on this piece (besides the three that have already appeared here) so I’m going to pass this on to our tech team and see what the issue is. None of your comments have been removed by anyone here, just for the record. In the meantime, it could be worth clearing your cache and trying to post again.

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    Jun 13th 2012, 4:22 PM

    Honestly, Christine this has never happened before, two comments in relation to the above article were not posted.

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    Jun 13th 2012, 7:21 PM

    Have you tried turning it off an on again, Seamus?:)

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