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If you're thinking of a J1 the new job rules shouldn't stop you (as long as you don't delay)

You need a job before you go out, so go get one.

NOW IT’S CONFIRMED that the J1 programme has undergone a really significant change, the message for students is that last minute decisions won’t cut it anymore.

Despite intensive lobbying from the government, Irish students who want to spend their summer living and working in the US will have to organise a job before they get there.

It’s all part of an effort in the US to tighten up their temporary visa system.

Although Taoiseach Enda Kenny said there are fears that it could lead to a “60% or 80%” drop in students making the transatlantic rite of passage, those involved in administering the visas say it need not be so.

One of the travel companies offering that advice is Usit, the company points out that there are already stateside employers who are keen to take on wannabe J1 students.

Usit says it has been examining the implications of the changes for some time and that the new rules add an extra layer of paperwork but shouldn’t prevent students from going.

Applying for a J1 visa has always entailed paperwork and it’s being advised that it takes about 12 weeks to process the documents.

That means that you’re going to need a written job commitment from an employer when you apply, knowing that it could take 12 weeks before you hear back.

In practice, it’s about students understanding that a bit more effort is needed, according to Sinn Fein Senator Trevor O Clochartaigh:

You’d be more worried about the students who leave it until the last minute who haven’t taken on board that there is a change and will be hoping to apply for a J1 but haven’t realised that they have jumped through these extra hoops.

Interexchange and Council for International Educational Exchange (CIEE) are the two sponsors of the program sponsors for J1 students in Ireland.

So how do I go about contacting an employer?

It might seem a bit daunting to start sending CVs to American employers before the summer, so there are a number of different routes to guide you.

Firstly, if you have any contacts in a city you’re looking to go to, early in the new year is the time to contact them.

The US government J1 visa website also has a list of different sponsor organisations that work with US employers to place J1 students. If you want to cut out the middle man, that’s a route you can go down.

It’ll require you to do much of the paperwork yourself and the US Embassy in Dublin has some advice on that.

But if you’re keen for someone to put you in touch with an employer, some travel agencies are offering to set you up as long as you book through them.

Usit says they’re already scheduling some Skype interviews and there’s a job fair set for February.

Either way, waiting until march to make a decision will not be good enough.

“I know that over Christmas is when a lot of students will be focusing on what to do during the summer and getting cheap tickets and that,” says Ó Clochartaigh.

Really, we’re saying that it’s not an over onerous task, it can be done, you just need to be prepared and you need to know that you have to do it. Rather than coming up at the last minute saying that I planned to get a J1 but now it’s too late and I can’t get a letter.

Read: The J1 was a rite of passage for me. We’re not all party-animals >

Read: Minister to J1 students: You WILL need a job to secure a US visa next summer >

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    Mute Dvsespaña
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    May 7th 2024, 1:17 PM

    I bet there are also a few current plots in motion by Ukraine and its allies too try to kill Vladimir Putin, because that’s what happens in conflicts…

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    May 7th 2024, 1:22 PM

    Though it only appears newsworthy or important enough to put a face in those at the top that are kept far from the conflict, not the poor sods on both sides dying in a conflict that the USA is willing to continue to fight until the last Ukrainian…

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    Mute J Ven
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    May 7th 2024, 1:27 PM

    @Dvsespaña: And good so, last I checked Ukraine is the one being invaded, it’s normal for them wanting to take out Putin, but the Russians doing that to Zelensky, being a good leader or not is plain psychopath.

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    May 7th 2024, 1:35 PM

    @Dvsespaña: ‘that’s what happens in conflicts’, but the conflict shouldn’t be happening in the first place. It’s Putin’s fault that it is.

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    May 7th 2024, 2:02 PM

    @J Ven: The reality of Ukraine both currently and in the years between the fall of the Soviet Union and the Russian invasion, is not as simplistic or clear cut as the Russians are bad, Ukrainians are good, Americans are best of all, frankly the ludicrous designations we have been invited to believe, don’t stand up to reading a history book or reviewing the available facts, rather than blindly accepting a bite sized spoon fed finger painted picture of geopolitics, look beyond the propaganda on all sides.

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    May 7th 2024, 2:05 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: it’s the indiscriminate bombing in the east of Ukraine since 2014 trying to get rid or kill Russian speaking Ukrainians because they wanted self rule but be still part of Ukraine. So after 10 years of looking for help from Russia, they crossed the border to shield them from a planned invasion to overwhelm the rebels by 100,000 Ukraine troops backed by the USA. So it was the USAs fault. They saw an excuse to use Ukraine as a battering ram against Russia. Ukraine is now falling apart.

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    May 7th 2024, 2:11 PM

    @Dvsespaña: In fairness, I say 99.9% of the world wants that to happen. The 00.1% who don’t are either allies, or the troll bots that plague social media.

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    May 7th 2024, 2:11 PM

    @brendan C5: You really do swallow Russian propaganda whole.

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    May 7th 2024, 2:32 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: presumably another russian bit. Anybody who bothers to check Ukrainian history can see through this nonsense. On that basis, only somebody in thrall to or in the pay of putin could even contemplate pushing this narrative. Putin is an imperialist adventurer. His govt colleagues beneficiaries of this. Lavrov peskov and others are the leeches that cling to and feed off putin, along with RT, diplomats like the mudak filatov. In fairness to Xi, at least he does it with style

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    May 7th 2024, 2:53 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: tell me how it’s Putins fault? He waited years, in fact some say too long, for a peace deal. He even recommended Donbass region not to join with Russia and instead make an agreement with Ukraine. Unfortunately Ukrainian troops, backed by NATO, built up in the east ready to ethnically cleanse the Russian speakers and Russia had no choice but to intervene. Since the US backed coup in 2014, Russians and Russian speaking Ukrainians have been vilified and dehumanised to justify an unnecessary war. Please look up Victoria Nuland’s phonecall and John Mearsheimer on YouTube.

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    May 7th 2024, 3:01 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: No conflict should ever happen, but alas, it’s been going on since the dawn of humanity. It’s all about power and resources. People have been forced to fight for what their leaders want.The use of religion was used to effectively brainwash people into fighting for their gods over others, race was used to fight against invaders of you leaders land. The good guy in any conflict is always the victor. It doesn’t matter who started or why it was started. Conflicts are never black and white. To Russia we’re seen as the bad guy just as we see them as the bad guy. Putin for sure is a “bad guy”, but by equal measure the USA is just as bad. Nato is just as bad. Citizens of these countries are all forced and brainwashed to fight for what they perceive to be right by their leaders who only care about wealth and legacy. If Ukraine win the west is good russia bad and usa is the corporate, capitalist, hero who saved the day. American and EU interests will make billions rebuilding ukraine and get the resources there to. If Russia wins it will go down as the hero who stood up against the western Corporatocracy who sought to cripple their way of life and steal their resources and the american and european interests will still make billions rebuilding ukraine and Russia. Social media is the modern weapon used to brainwash and control the narrative by bombarding one side of the argument with biased rhetoric. It creates trolls who demonise those who would question the war on all sides and claim its side is the seeker of righteousness. The reality is the current economic structure of the “superpowers” requires conflict to drive the economy and keep the elite rich. To think putin is any more or less evil than his western counterparts is naive, and to suggest his invasion is wrong just because it’s not your side of the conflict is simplistic. We assume it’s just Putin’s ego driving the war, but in reality one man can’t control an entire nation no matter how deranged and powerful we’re led to believe he is. It’s a conflict driven and manipulated by the global superpowers. I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if putin is having tea and biscuits with the Americans laughing and having a bit of craic about the wealth the war is, and will be, generating for them all.

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    May 7th 2024, 3:08 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Others believe in western propaganda. Swings and roundabouts. The reality is that this war is being encouraged by both NATO to promote them and enable their expansion, the USA to enable them to profit from war, and Russia to profit from war and gain a bit of land. The only losers will be the Russian and Ukrainian citizens forced to die and fight for their respective leaders wealth generation.

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    May 7th 2024, 3:19 PM

    @Dan Skelton: So in your expert estimation based on a strict diet of simplistic propaganda, you believe that 99% of the world wants to elevate the current proxy war conflict in Ukraine, into a global nuclear world war three, that eventually kills every living thing on the planet? You are obviously a genius and definitely not a troll bot and part of the problem…

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    May 7th 2024, 3:27 PM

    @Dvsespaña: and all this would have been avoided had Putin shelved his imperialist ambitions.

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    May 7th 2024, 5:40 PM

    @Dvsespaña: not that I’d agree with taking out anyone but of course – it surely would solve a lot of Ukraines problems

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    May 7th 2024, 8:07 PM

    @Roy Dowling: Gaza is not Palestine, and Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 – leaving a well developed region and abandoning all their settlements.
    The Gaza population failed to build on this opportunity and instead they elected a terrorist organisation to run the territory.
    What could go wrong? – with their main objective being to turn their water mains pipes into rockets, build tunnels instead of schools and invent the suicide vest for use in Israeli restaurants.

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    May 7th 2024, 8:28 PM

    @Maniac 2000: Ok, lets look at this logically. Russia under Putin illegally invaded Ukraine, but not in an unprovoked attack, there was lots of provocation, does that justify the Russian invasion? No, but you can see why it might from their perspective.

    The USA have pushed NATO up to the borders of Russia, with Ukraine being the most in their face middle finger of all.

    In addition attacks on ethnic Russian Ukrainians living in the separatist areas, which were back by US intelligence services to poke the bear using Ukrainian assets from Neo Nazi groups in Ukraine, this isn’t some crazy conspiracy theory, its documented fact along with secret CIA Black sites that have been operating in Ukraine for years.

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    May 7th 2024, 8:35 PM

    Russia has despite slaughtering tens of thousands of Ukrainians, fought this conflict with one or more hands behind its back. Russia is a nuclear super power that has not even unleased its full conventional power against Ukraine to date.

    But if Putin was “Taken out” as numerous self appointed military experts that were all battle hardened in the campaigns of call of duty suggest, that itself would probably escalate the conflict straight to nuclear, because his successor would seek to stamp their authority on Russia and to be seen as the defender of Russia in the aftermath of its leader being assassinated.

    We are as closer to nuclear war than we have ever been, the last time was when the Soviet Union tried to put it’s missiles in Cuba, which ironically doesn’t actually border the USA.

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    May 7th 2024, 1:31 PM

    @Dvsespaña: You castigate the US for answering Ukraines call for material assistance in defending itself from a murderous Russian invasion.

    You, strangely, make no mention of Russias determination to continue its invasion of a sovereign European nation, whatever the cost. Whats the story there?

    Do you think you might deign to acknowledge Ukraines agency in its own defence?

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    May 7th 2024, 1:52 PM

    @honey badger: You appear in all your comments about the conflict in Ukraine to start the timeline from the Russian invasion and suffer from selective amnesia about all that went before, as far back as the fall of the Soviet Union.

    This isnt a simple regional conflict in which the Russians are the only responsible party.

    It doesn’t justify their illegal invasion of Ukraine, but to claim the USA and the rest of NATO are the hero’s coming to aid Ukraine in a conflict in which they had no part in instigating is delusional to say the least.

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    May 7th 2024, 3:42 PM

    @Dvsespaña: you mean from the invasion of crimea onwards or from the moment russia planted its forces in east ukraine onwards?

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    May 7th 2024, 2:14 PM

    I think the US may be ahead of Russia in taking the C lown out, The war is over, Russia won. What a waste of life, all to enrich US investors.

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    May 7th 2024, 3:21 PM

    @087 bed: The US said it would give billions to Ukraine. The truth is that the money never left the US, straight into the bank accounts of the military industrial complex. Then Russia hits the silo where the weapons are stored. War is a profitable business for a few rich men.

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    May 7th 2024, 3:22 PM

    @087 bed: if the war is over, and russia have won, then why is it continuing?

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    May 7th 2024, 3:49 PM

    @087 bed: you really shout get out more.

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    May 7th 2024, 1:44 PM

    @James Groden: I condemn both the Russian invasion of Ukraine and Israel’s ongoing crimes against Palestinians: do you?

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    May 7th 2024, 2:00 PM

    If the Russians wanted him dead they would have killed him by now. They can drop a missile on him whenever they choose.

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    May 7th 2024, 8:07 PM

    @Des Hanrahan: Evidently not Des. Did you read the article?

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    May 7th 2024, 1:16 PM

    Unsurprising really given the despotic russonazis just continue their slaughter unabated.

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    May 7th 2024, 1:53 PM

    Concurrent sentencing should be abolished in Ireland.

    That said, hopefully some agent manages to get something into Putins food that causes him to explode.

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    May 7th 2024, 1:31 PM

    De @ th to putin

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    May 7th 2024, 2:07 PM

    @Paddy Ryan: learn your history from books not rte, BBC or sky news. Your completely brainwashed god love ya.

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    May 7th 2024, 3:51 PM

    @brendan C5: says yer man.. you’d be a hitler supported if this was the 1930s, I’ve no doubt about it.

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    May 7th 2024, 1:38 PM

    @James Groden: Please link to this cheerleading you fetid putin fluffer. Thanks in advance.

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    May 7th 2024, 2:11 PM

    A plot to assassinate Zelensky? Who would have guessed it!

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    May 7th 2024, 1:53 PM

    Might be a question with an obvious answer, but how can an account be shown as 10y, but I’ve never seen the account name before (Dvsespaña)? Account name changes? Also, and I can’t believe I have to type this, all wrongs are wrong, regardless of which country, government or citizens commit those wrongs. Human rights and morality don’t get ignored because of borders (Wallace & Daly and the emerging Far Right here please take note of this Sesame Street level knowledge).

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    May 7th 2024, 2:07 PM

    @Numinous20111: Perhaps its all a plot being perpetrated by the journal.ie in league with myself, the FSB and Putin??

    But in reality, I have been posting here for ten years, perhaps you are just not as observant as you think…
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    May 7th 2024, 2:50 PM

    @Numinous20111: Re. Accounts , Remember when they changed the system about a year ago ? Well the record of how long people were commenting on the Journal went crazy . I have been on for more than 10 years but am shown as 1 year .

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    May 7th 2024, 3:24 PM

    @Des Hanrahan: that account is new to me too. Suspicious, isnt it

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    May 7th 2024, 1:30 PM

    I think they both need to be carefull with the cup of tea.

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    May 7th 2024, 3:07 PM

    One of them two of them in my opinion.

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