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The bad publicity is a blow to the party as it attempts to build up to a general election following its disastrous nationwide performance in 2011.
The party will point to a strong showing in last year’s local elections, where it became the largest party, as evidence that it’s ready to govern once more. But do you agree?
Today’s poll, Will you vote for Fianna Fáil in the next general election?
Poll Results:
No. (14143)
Yes. (3452)
I will consider it. (1806)
I don't know. (687)
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Yea, and I’d rather not go through another disaster. A left-wing populist party with a shady terrorist background and a “tax the shite out of the rich / corporations” mentality – headed by a leader that is never questioned by its cult followers! A party that makes shite proposals such as “radio stations should be forced into playing a certain percentage of Irish music”. That and the fact that most of its candidates are well below par when it comes to the type of ability that is needed to govern.
Have to laugh at the YFG fake accounts. FF wreck the economy and almost a half million of our best and brightest have to emigrate to find work, FG sign our kids up to 40 years of debt servitude and blackmail us into signing our fiscal soverignty over to the germans, but don’t vote for SF………..it would be ‘disasterous’
As a party they were against gay marriage, and they’re (mostly) habitually stroke-pullers of the highest order. Hanafin is a prime candidate.
My local FF councillor (Galway City east) was all over the local press 12-18 moths ago claiming he was behind getting traffic calming measures put in around that part of town.
The result was one small speed bump in a side road a couple of months later.
I wrote to him each month, for four months, for a more detailed update on the interview he gave to the local press. He never responded.
FF are a party that traditionally jump on populist causes, and would say pretty much anything if there was votes in it.
So no, I won’t be voting for them.
So people have voted ff,fg and labour into government since the foundation of the state and have been subjected to 2 or 3 crippling recession’s, hundreds of thousands of our youth forced to emigrate.our health system in chaos and now money being taken from road tax,tv licence and property tax to fund irish water so they can charge the irish people for water, and your won’t consider sinnfein why? How could they possibly make it any worse?
I guarantee Fianna Fáil will win a lot more seats than Sinn Fein next time out, possibly double. I wouldn’t be surprised if they top FG even. Talk of them being finished is foolish. By the way I can’t stand them, but saying they are finished is just not true. 66% of Dáil TDS in Ireland are right wing, and that won’t be changing after the next election. Either FF or FG will lead the next government.
I won’t consider Sinn Fein because of their silly economic policies and their cult-like leadership. Why would I vote for a party that calls for a “Wealth Tax”?
Very true. In fact the parties of the left other than Labour and the Greens have lost me as a voter entirely after thirty years of solid left preferences. Their cynical attacks from the minute Labour went in to government destroyed my belief in the innate integrity of left wing politics.
Bill and Johnny, a reason to learn from history is so that you don’t repeat it. There are some parallels from then that might be useful for us to remember today.
Who is Elk? Is that another new Party? Anything would be better that Fianna Fáil with their faces washed coming up behind us to fleece us again. The world is the same in a relative way but we’re older – and wiser.
Shady terrorist background? No. Their terrorist background is clear and explicit. The referendum has demonstrated that we have the capacity to make moral and ethical decisions without the crutch of religion. So, let’s be explicit about Sinn Fein and not try to ameliorate, in the tiniest way, their background by reference to the past history of this country. We’ve grown up. I hope.
SF are a bunch of flavour of the month cowards. Their flip-flop on the marriage referendum is clear evidence that they will back whatever they think will get them elected. 100% populism without any clear vision will be a disaster. You can’t please everyone all the time.
FF have managed to coast through 4 years of leading the opposition without taking up a position on anything. Complaining about the actions the government are taking to fix the mess they made, without offering even a hint of an alternative.
Anyone further left than SF: Syriza in Greece took three weeks to do a 180 degree turn on their policies after blaming the Nazis failed. Their sympathisers here seem even less competent.
Labour have abandoned their base, largely due to being the junior partner in a government that was dealt a shitty hand. Their hands were tied but their supporters don’t care.
Renua: Hahahahaha
FG have implemented a 53% top marginal tax rate for the highest earners (despite being the party of “the rich”) and have backed gay marriage and legislated for the X Case in an affront to their traditionally socially conservative side.
So we have a bunch of parties who either don’t have a position on anything, have a position that is just not sustainable, or have a position and don’t stick to it.
How people can change their minds within a fifteen month two years period For the people who have changed their minds Fianna fail won’t dish free water out of the taps to buy votes . What I am more interested in finding out if the people who came out on the yes and no side to vote will they come out to vote in the next General election ?
Time for change Johnny Five. the rich don’t care they aviod tax while we pay for all their mistakes. please move to America where your thinking belongs
Bill FF Rooney
Michael Martin is on his last, get use to it, he is risking the future of the FF Party and there elected members for his own gain, his ambition to be leader of the Country is going to bring the party down.
No I wouldn’t vote for FF, but I would ahead of SF. We’d be forced to pay higher taxes to support their core vote who are mostly on social welfare. I’m not interested in hard luck stories and I’ve been looking for a job for the last *yrs blah blah.
I left school over 30yrs ago, aged 14, no qualifications (then), I have not been unemployed in over 20yrs. I’ve worked from shoveling sh*t (literally down manholes working construction)
to running my own company for last 10 yrs (folding it up now, to much stress), went to college in the last 10yrs and got a degree in a totally different field and I’m currently employed again in a totally different field.
If you can’t get a job (long term) then your expectations are to high or you are to lazy to hold on to it. The entitled to brigade sicken me, both politicans and general scroungers. SF’s biggest audience (of course there are exceptations to this) are these people.
I almost crashed the car last year or early this year listening to Gerry Adams being interviewed one morning on Radio 1, In relation to the housing crisis, his words were that every one is entitled to not just a house but a “nice house”.
FFS why would anyone bother looking for work or trying to improve their lot when Gerry is going to provide “nice houses for everyone.
Then the SF muppets say that it’s not important that Gerry isn’t capable of simple maths….. idiots.
After all that I still wouldn’t vote FF because they made a balls of the economy, along with greedy bankers etc.
I intend (unpopular as it maybe and never did in the past) to vote for Labour, for two reasons. Firstly I was impressed that they took they hard decisions that needed to be taken for the good of the country, (I don’t believe in the magic wand idea which they did until they got into power)
even though they had to have known it was political suicide they put the country ahead of their ratings. Secondly I’m involved with a charity organisation and we wrote to every party in the area. Ged Nash was the only one that actually got involved and give us more than lip service (which every other party did except FG how didn’t even reply).
This is for the SF troll who will tell me how he worked all his life and never got the dole etc etc, You are in a tiny minority of SF voters.
As for the disgusting smearing that SF involve themselves in Grrrrhhh
‘sign our kids up to 40 years of debt servitude and blackmail us into signing our fiscal soverignty over to the germans’
I wasn’t aware that we’re living in the early 20th century because i believed the problem was we were selling our fiscal sovereignty over the the elite 1% who control nearly (if not) 50% of resources around the planet.
Sinn fein, FF or FG all major parties at this point all of them have ties to powerful people hence all of them are disastrous. Go vote for someone that you know doesn’t have their interests tied by finances.
And don’t forget that the geniuses in SF also want to ban Water Fluoridation. In newspapers in the UK today there was a story about the appalling state of the UK population’s teeth. Water Fluoridation would go a long way towards solving that. The state of the teeth of the people of Northern Ireland is worse than the Republic because the North is part of the UK. SF should be trying to introduce Water Fluoridation in the North if they had any members with even a smattering of a scientific or medical education. Roll on the new Republic led by a dodgy ex-barman.
“party with a shady terrorist background and a “tax the shite out of the rich / corporations” mentality – headed by a leader that is never questioned by its cult followers! A party that makes shite proposals such as “radio stations should be forced into playing a certain percentage of Irish music”. That and the fact that most of its candidates are well below par when it comes to the type of ability that is needed to govern.”
An excellent description of both Fine Gael and Fianna Fail Johnny Five once you replace “the rich/corporations” with “everyone except TDs and Senators”.
The party that have destroyed the economy twice in my lifetime? Don’t think so. Despite winning the seat last Saturday, FF actually performed WORSE than they ever did in that constituency, including 2011! So, hopefully Martin stays on till after the next election. Averil Power was right, he’s a leader without any followers.
Hi ‘jane’, I see you’ve deleted half of your followers from your twitter account since I pointed out last night that they were bogus. Still contesting that your twitter account is a year old, and you just happened to send your first tweet last night?
That doesn’t surprise me.
There are people out there who would still vote for Charlie Haughey (if he was still alive) or Bertie Ahern (seems to be laying low recently – maybe it takes 10 years or so for the shame to kick in).
Aye Dave. Some of them would vote for a dog with a Fianna Fáil rosette on it. At least a dog would be faithful and would n’t dump on his own door-step.
Anyone who votes for Fianna Fail is a goldfish. Do you think we are that stupid that we would forget in 8 years that they were the ones who bankrupted the entire country? They were responsible for the cuts and the taxes and the charges we have been dealing with. Yes, Fine Gael brought them in, but Fianna Fail put created the problem in the first place. In any other job, why would someone be placed back in control of the finances of a company when they robbed it blind and caused the company to become bankrupt? Silly question.
The people don’t see any obvious alternative to them , No party is a stand out replacement to these parties
Scratch below the populist issues and ask alternative / opposition parties the hard questions on USC , Taxes and levies , social housing and they’ve no real answers that make public want to vote for them
I disagree that they are a gold fish. I’m not defending FF in any way, however, not voting for any party just as a “protest” vote in a general election is a bad idea imo. You should vote for the party/independent you really want based on their policies, rather than an “anybody is better than that crowd” approach, which is what a lot of people seem to be thinking. Its also a lot of the reason FG got into power, people voted for them and labour as a protest to FF, without being aware of a lot of their plans for government.
@Je Suis Rep of Eire exactly, I have asked the AAA lads on here on their plans to fund healthcare and social welfare. in a nut shell, they said leave the euro, create out own currency and print all the money we need. the mind boggles.
Looney left is alive and well , thankfully there on 1% of the vote
I genuinely was warming to them until I scratched past water charges and prop tax ,
Waddler said “they won’t work within the confines of the current system ”
That’s a blessing in disguise for Ireland !! AAA and SF are a disaster waiting to happen to the Irish economy
I’ve always been pro fine fail but I’m finding it very hard to come up with positive things to say lately. What’s the alternative, FG hate working people below, Sinn Fein hate working people, Labour hate themselves, Renua are unproven and don’t know what they are, vote a load of independents in and it’s Greece 2. Time for Real change, maybe vote for ministerial positions as opposed to party’s?
Pretty emphatic so far but most of their voters probably aren’t Journal readers. I’d imagine they’d hold a good vote in the country side and among older voters.
If you’d asked me six months ago absolutely not but since they committed to fighting the repeal of the 8th amendment I will consider them especially given the swing to the left by Fine Gael.
As an ex FF member I don’t get why people would even consider voting for FF they have being useless in opposition just went along with the government. …and Martin is a spineless leader ….We need change …We need something similar to Greece and Spain. ….do people not realise that we the citizens are being raped and pillaged every were we spend our money
Remnd me please who caused us to be in such debt.who overseen the bank gaurentee. How fixkle we are, they will be a part of the next goverment and history will repeat itself.
Any of you morons who consider voting for FF have a look at your payslip, especially the line marked USC universal social charge, add it up for a year and then ask yourself are they worth that much deductions every year.
As I understand it SF want to increase tax even further. In fact they want to tax people to the point they leave Ireland or own nothing as you’d expect from the hard left.
At this point, I have voted in 4 General, 4 local, 4 European and 2 Presidential elections, without finding a place for them on my ballot paper, so this doesn’t seem an appropriate time to break that habit.
It’s not like I’m a one-party man either as by my reckoning, I’ve voted for 4 different parties and a number of Independent candidates across the elections.
Never again.. I gave robert dowds and jonna tuffy my 1st & 2nd believing we were heading into a new government lead by the mighty bullshitters FG. I.m kinda ready to give sinn fein my vote 2nd by a non fg/ff/lab “independent” that wont just prop up the austerity lovin partys.
F€€K irish water.. put that in your party and smoke it.
Another fake post from someone who thinks that anyone could believe someone would vote FG and then switch to the total opposite side of the house and vote for SF. The only people who voted for FG in the last election and now plan to vote for SF are those that misunderstood how to vote the last time.
Anytime I see ‘looney left’ thrown out as a ‘put down’ I can only shake my head at the dogmatic point of view.
But do stick with your narrow field view of politics….. because, the financial terrorist appeasing far-right governments we have had for the past forever, really, really have made a fine outstanding job of everything (not).
As with the last time round, the next election won’t be a battle of who’s best for the job but who’s the least worst option!
- FG & LAB: Promised reform, transparency and a “new approach”. Delivered FF/Troika austerity (for some.. write-offs and cushy jobs and contracts for others), the same old cronyism, corruption and incompetence, a Taoiseach who spends his time hiding from the people and who has zero charisma and leadership ability and a much-vaunted “recovery” built on another housing crisis in Dublin and which hasn’t been felt outside it for the most part
- SF: Still reckon that most people care about Republicanism as a core issue, go from scandal to scandal with far too much historical baggage in the leadership. Have no viable policies for a small country that absolutely depends on FDI
- “Independents”: One-issue local candidates that are often cast-offs from the “Big 2″ anyway.
So given those “choices”, FF ARE probably the best of the worst available to us – how sad is that!
There will always be enough rednecks, gombeen-admirers, cute-hoors and sleeveens in Ireland to guarantee FF at least a mino number of supporters and seats. Nevertheless a dying breed….. Buíochas le Dia.
Too many candidates running and splitting the vote, TDs on the left have to come together or feck off out of politics .its ordinary people that are suffering.
The banking inquiry will have just finished by the time of the next election destroying FF in the process. The question will be is how the FF voters will vote for ? SF, FG or independent
In all the years I am entitled to vote I have never given them a vote, bar once at the bottom of my ballot sheet by mistake. It taught me to be more cautious. There are definitely not dead in the water though as some predicted after the 2011 election.
Political Parties are just Private Clubs, financial predators who Max your Tax like Landlords Max your Rent and Banks Max your Debt. Irish should consider bringing their brains to the Polling Booths for real political reform and a successful future society for all its citizens including all 300,000 recently “sent abroad”.
I vote left, and I’ll probably vote Labour in spite of a disappointing government performance. I’ll chalk that up to 1. Constraints of how you distribute 0 fairly, and 2. The constraints of being in government with a party of opposing ideology.
But I’d far sooner vote for FG than I’d dare vote for FF. You know what FG stand for, even if they can’t always deliver it. FF on the other hand…. Averil Power absolutely hit the nail on the head:
“It doesn’t know what it stands for and lacks credible policies on most major issues.
It is afraid of taking clear positions in key debates for fear of losing support”
Hey fools when poverty increases over the next 10 years yere all in the shit as the right wing parties you love so dearly abandon ye to the mercy of very hungry angry pissed off people. Have a little think its ye that are gona be targeted hell the forgotten bottom are targeting ye already. Wait until they give up all hope. Good luck walking g down the street with yere iphones. Dont worry tho yere masters in government will have all the security they need. Try growing up and having a look at reality . Endorsing a government that targets the poor which will then target the middle class. Hell Stevie wonder can see what’s Gona happen. Short sighted fools stuck in a time warp of FG and FF change my arse the Irish take along tine to contemplate changing anything. As the big fella of the Collins said how can we achieve anything most of the country is too damn cautious. Gay rights wont put food on your table and mo ey in yere pockets oh and yere children happy with them been debt slaves for German Banks. Cop on grow up .
Of course I wouldnt vote for FF. But i want to see the same poll on the journal for FG! They have turned out to be far worse than FF but are much better at spinning everything and full of clever BS – so some people are actually stupid enough to think they’re doing something good! To be clear FG stand for much worse fascist neoliberal policies – sell off everything possible to the corporations and make the public pay through the nose for the gambling, squandering and money laundering of the banks and corporations. The fact that Enda and his crew are forcing in water charges, protecting DOB, are gung ho to implement TTIP in full and trying to push through censorship laws to restrict our freedoms (via the back door of Labour politicians with zero mandate). Its really time to call a spade a spade. I identify them this way: FG are psychotic fascist plants for the corporations and banks, FF are compliant self-serving idiots. All of them are 100% corrupt – none of them FF, FG nor Labour give a crap about the people. The whole Avril Power thing is definitely an FG pre-election stunt to destroy FF and Avril will very soon join FG. Personally I wouldnt mind voting for SF they are guaranteed to be 100% better – but then anyone could be. However I dont really think SF will go against the tide and really change much. Only a handful of Left or independent TDs standing alone would have the balls – no parties will due the ease of corrupting the party whip. So the only choice is the people – but we don’t have the balls to stand up and say enough is enough either – nor do we have the balls to take on the responsibility of real participatory democracy. Or do we? Can we take responsibility for our own destiny instead of giving it away to “representatives” who don’t represent us and whose pockets are being lined by their owners i.e. banks and corporations who keep them in power? Do we have the courage? So far Irish people who earn enough money to not be struggling have proven themselves to be self-serving cowards. Harsh words maybe but I’m sick of our self-delusion and willingness to accept the lies of the media the the fascist policies and lies of the politicians.
Of course not. They’ve made it known that they have no interest in moving Ireland forward, socially, and their history of economics is terrible. They’re probably the worst thing in Irish politics since Éamon de Va…oh, wait, there’s that, too.
Martin is probably the best performer in the dail in terms of rattling the shit out of those in power. He’s streets ahead of Cowen and Bertie ever were but no fianna failers spoke up and left back then. Further proof that they are all rats leaving a sinking ship who are only in politics for reasons other than the greater good. I absolutely would not vote for fianna fail but it’s not because of leadership.
Of course, we will vote for a male Fianna Fáil candidate – many times over; to what other party could a #hate-filled-bigot turn to in a constituency other than Roscommon-South Leitrim?
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