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Column It can be a crowded nest when you still live at home with your parents

Due to ongoing economic problems the option of leaving the family home to start your own independent life is increasingly being put on the long finger, writes Tony Moore.

ASK MOST PARENTS about their ideas for retirement and most will say they are looking forward to a future on their own now the children have flown the nest. Ask young men and women what they look forward to and they will tell you the freedom from parental control.

Unfortunately today both parents and children may be disappointed and have their dreams and expectations shattered. It’s quite normal and healthy to want to leave home and live separately from our parents and at least ‘feel’ grown up. Due to the ongoing economic problems that option of leaving the family home to start up on their own is being increasingly put on the long finger. This has some serious psychological and physical effects both on the young and not-so-young.

Stuck at home

Our young citizens may have finished their third level education – or not, as the case may be – and now find themselves in the unenviable position of being stuck at home with little or nothing to do.

The older they get the more depressed they become. The saying ‘the devil finds work for idle hands’ is a true one. They feel a failure and their parents feel a failure. Being a parent is the most difficult job in the world. Parents are often wracked with guilt feeling others are doing the job better than they are and feeling a failure in not giving their child or children a better start in life.

So we have a household full of frustration, guilt, anger and in some cases, despair. Parents will do the best they can for their child and try to stop their child hurting or feeling a failure. Ask any parent what it feels like to see your child (of whatever age) suffering and they will say that they wish it was them suffering and not their child.

Fending for yourself

Young adults need to enter the adult world of work and learn how to fend for themselves. This builds confidence and self esteem. Both parents and children need to make mistakes in order to learn. Being cocooned from the world doesn’t help us grow and learn. The majority of young people want to spread their wings and become independent. Their parents should encourage this development even if that means emigration.

Nothing produces feelings of despair more than feeling we have no purpose in life and are not wanted. Some have argued that there is a tradition of Irish children staying at home with their parents longer than their counterparts in Europe. That may or may not be true, but there is a difference between choosing to stay at home and being forced to do so due to economic circumstances.

At Relationships Ireland we are seeing more couples being forced to live with one set of parents because the couple cannot afford even the most modest of homes. There are houses or apartments they could afford but there may be no employment in the area or the commute to work would make the whole business uneconomic. It’s natural for young adults to want to build their own family and to aspire to ‘better things’.

Adults in committed relationships also crave their own privacy and this can be denied to them living with parents. To be thwarted in that desire through no fault of your own can and does lead to emotional and relationship problems. Of itself there is nothing wrong with adult children staying at home with their parents and sharing their lives together as long as that is a free choice and this is negotiated.

Living with your family

We might be seeing a return to extended families living closer together and sharing more and supporting each other. There are lots of ways of living our lives and there is no perfect formula. We may be forced to me more self sustainable in the future and this may be the birth pangs of a different sort of lifestyle. We must also be careful not to romanticise the past. All of us need to be careful we are not sleepwalking our way back 60 years to overcrowded accommodation with the potential physical, psychological, emotional and sexual problems associated with such a lifestyle.

One thing is for sure; we can’t wait for things to be done for us we must do it for ourselves. We need a radical rethink of how we live and our attitude to our life and our ambitions. We can still be ambitious but the outcomes may not be what we expected.

Tony Moore is a counsellor for Relationships Ireland. Relationships Ireland provides affordable confidential counselling and support services that offer you the opportunity to understand and resolve difficulties in your relationship. For more information or to book a consultation you can contact 1890 380 380 or emailinfo@relationshipsireland.com.

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    Mute OU812
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    Sep 21st 2017, 7:16 AM

    No app needed.

    Simple mandatory emergency broadcast text message alert to be sent by all phone companies.

    At the same time broadcast it on the radio/tv

    We’re not living in twister valley here. There’s time to prepare if there’s warning. Just get the warning out.

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    Mute PVD
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    Sep 21st 2017, 7:23 AM

    @OU812: 100% Text alerts and News

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    Mute Who's Yer Man
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    Sep 21st 2017, 8:30 AM

    @OU812: Totally agree, the support required to develop apps for all phones is unrealistic, giving there’s a whole generation who wouldn’t know what a smartphone is, nor what an app is. SMS is definitely the way to go.

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    Mute Gillian Weir Scully
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    Sep 21st 2017, 10:06 AM

    @OU812: If Donegal had more warning would it help? How on earth can you prepare for awful weather conditions in Ireland?

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    Sep 21st 2017, 7:10 AM

    If only there was some sort of wireless technology where people could be warned over the airwaves via some sort of bulletin or regular updates. Say on the hour or something.

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    Mute Damien King
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    Sep 21st 2017, 2:25 PM

    @Gavin Boyce: That sounds innovative. Tell me more about these “airwaves” you speak of….can they be used in such a way that that these updates can be targeted at specific regions? and could a service such as this be funded via local advertising revenues?

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    Mute Gavin Redmond
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    Sep 21st 2017, 6:54 AM

    Government and Develop in the same sentence, why does that not sound good.

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    Mute Rory Toner
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    Sep 21st 2017, 7:41 AM

    The gobsh*tes will spend 100 million on the app and then it won’t work properly

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    Mute James
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    Sep 21st 2017, 7:44 AM

    Why not use the amber and government alerts that’s already available on the iPhone (Emergency alerts on android)? Other countries like the US already use the feature meaning No app required..

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    Mute Billy Connelly
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    Sep 21st 2017, 6:59 AM

    Brainwave..I’ll make up something we have aready to be used in rural areas that have no internet. Genius

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    Sep 21st 2017, 8:05 AM

    How about planing a million trees to stop flooding in the first place. Even better go for a billion like Pakistan did recently. An app won’t do that.

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    Sep 21st 2017, 8:06 AM
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    Sep 21st 2017, 6:31 AM

    Brought to you by the wiffey generation. If you have a smart phone. I’m sure you weren’t one of the people caught out the weather

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    Mute Trevor Connolly
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    Sep 21st 2017, 6:43 AM

    @john Appleseed: but don’t they need broadband first. Stupid idea, everyone gets weather warning already, utter rubbish

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    Mute Mairtin Cathbhar
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    Sep 21st 2017, 7:46 AM

    @john Appleseed: weather channel does it already.

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    Mute xor
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    Sep 21st 2017, 9:00 AM

    Will an app help if you have no coverage? NO! Will it help some politician’s relation with an app development company? YES!

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    Mute Brian Casey
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    Sep 21st 2017, 7:36 AM

    Sure the people in rural areas won’t have any signal to receive the weather alerts because the government still haven’t sorted that issue yet.

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    Mute Julian Friesel
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    Sep 21st 2017, 7:42 AM

    every fookin weather app on the planet can do this. i literally have two apps on my phone right now that have this function already. they require internet though, something that’s sparse in Donegal i hear.

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    Mute Eugene Walsh
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    Sep 21st 2017, 7:39 AM

    I can see it now…Oooo them is dark clouds, think I’ll check my friendly government weather map.
    1 hr later….”Initializing ”
    Feck the feck off

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    Sep 21st 2017, 8:58 AM

    They didn’t do a very good job of predicting the flooding at the National Ploughing Championships yesterday either. I bet the organisers will be glad when it is all over.

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    Sep 21st 2017, 11:32 AM

    @Chris Kirk: Yes they did. That rain was forecast.

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    Mute John Smith
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    Sep 21st 2017, 7:42 AM

    Thank god the government are back from holidays

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    Mute DeFonz
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    Sep 21st 2017, 7:49 AM

    get these alerts already

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    Mute Emmet Dillane
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    Sep 21st 2017, 11:01 AM

    So, what are you gonna do when you get the text?
    Move your house? Buy a helicopter? Call Hans Brinker?

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    Sep 21st 2017, 8:55 AM

    Just fix the fecking roads never mind a fecking app!! weather warning ?? There’s already a system in place and we have Nuala Carey !

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    Sep 21st 2017, 9:46 AM

    There is already a system in place in some parts of the country it’s called Mapalerter and lets you know of water outages road closure severe weather alerts etc the alerts come from your local council

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    Sep 21st 2017, 12:22 PM

    We already have an app which can be used for all public alerts etc. It is called “Map Alerter” and has been used a long time by Wexford.County Council to inform of emergency road work, broken water mains, flooding. It is very handy.

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    Sep 21st 2017, 7:29 AM

    Do we have to pay for it?

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    Sep 21st 2017, 9:06 AM

    Typical of these idiots in gov. Totally overlooking the sensible solution, text messages, radio etc, going with the app that’s going to cost a fortune to develop and might not work properly.

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    Sep 21st 2017, 9:09 AM

    They probably think there’s some magic thing in the app that’s not in the obvious solutions. Shows a total lack of understanding of the technology anyways.

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    Sep 21st 2017, 11:12 AM
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