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Hot Topic Dealing with Twitter abuse and trolling

We asked two high-profile Twitter users to share their experiences of online harassment…

MEN ARE TARGETED twice as much as women by trolls and abusive users on Twitter, according to a study released last week.

The research, carried out by think tank DEMOS for The Sunday Times, found that men are more often on the receiving end of abuse on Twitter (although males are also behind most of the trolling online). Both men and women more likely to be hostile towards members of their own gender.

We asked two high-profile Twitter users – a woman and a man – to share their experiences of online abuse and harassment, and tips for how they deal with it.

Holly Carpenter

Holly is a model and former Miss Ireland. She blogs at hollycarpenterblog.com and tweets at @Holly0910.

‘Targeting people to upset them is the lowest thing someone can do’

I have a bit of a love-hate relationship with social media. A couple of months ago I decided to start a blog, and I’m always posting on my Facebook, Twitter and Instagram to attract people towards it. I get so much inspiration from Instagram for fashion and make-up looks and I love getting a sneak peek into the lives of the rich and famous. Twitter is great for work as I can keep clients and brands in my good books by retweeting shoots and shows I’ve worked on with them.

Like anything, there’s definitely a negative side of social media. I was a finalist on Britain & Ireland’s Next Top Model last year. We would film over 50 hours of content for each episode over a period of three days, which would then be condensed down to a 47 minute show. The show was on every Thursday night and I remember my anxiety would kick in by Tuesday because I never knew how I would be edited and I worried about how things I said could be twisted. I’d sit and watch the show with my family and friends with my phone in my hand and read all of the comments people were making about me. There were some lovely comments from girls saying they thought I was pretty or funny which, naturally, I enjoyed reading. The negative comments were hard to take, though. I pride myself on being capable of speaking my mind and having thick skin, however speaking your mind can get you into trouble and having thick skin is great until someone targets your insecurity and you crumble.

I received tweets like ‘OMG that girl Holly is such a bitch’ or ‘Holly on BINTM isn’t even pretty! How did she get on this show?’ A lot of the time I would just laugh it off or reply saying ‘Thanks pet have a good day’. In one particular episode though, they showed me arguing with another girl who was playing the victim on camera. I came across like I was being nasty for no reason. I got so frustrated watching that episode because I knew I was just defending myself and I knew what had really happened. I got inundated with nasty comments. I remember searching my name on Twitter and reading horrible things about me that were untrue and very hard to take.

I lashed out at a few people and tried to defend myself but then my mum banned me from searching my name on Twitter. I got upset about a comment someone tweeted at me and my mum took my phone and looked at the person’s account. They were no oil painting themselves, had about 20 followers and lived in the middle of nowhere. My mum said ‘are you really going to let some loser sitting in an internet cafe trolling affect your day? Why do you care what they think of you?’ I paused for a few seconds while the penny dropped and then burst out laughing through the tears. That’s my attitude now towards negative trolls online. Instead of rising to it and giving them what I want, I just favourite their tweet or retweet it and let my followers do my dirty work for me.

I sometimes find myself tweeting while I watch shows like ‘Made in Chelsea’ (my number one guilty pleasure) and I’ll write something like ‘what the hell is she wearing’ but then I realise that these girls could be at home watching the show with their mum reading these comments feeling as low as I did. I think everyone should be able to express their opinion and I love a bit of banter but when trolls target people to try to upset them I think it’s the lowest thing someone can do. I just tell myself that these keyboard warriors feel brave sitting behind the safety net of a computer screen but if I ever met them in person they wouldn’t even look me in the eye – let alone attempt to insult me.

I was surprised to read that a study found that men were twice as likely to be the victims of Twitter trolling. I’m aware of cyber bullying but I assumed it stemmed from girls being bitchy and body shaming one and other. When I was in school we only had Bebo and I’m grateful that Facebook wasn’t in my life until I was 18. By then I was aware of the permanent damage you can do to your reputation by posting the wrong picture or writing the wrong status. I deleted my Bebo when I entered Miss Ireland (thank God). There are 12 year olds on Facebook and Instagram now that I used to babysit and I’m shocked by the articles they’re exposed to online and the pressure they must feel to look good in their photos at such a young age.

You can create a whole persona on social media. Online we only ever show the silver lining of our cloud. I constantly see photos of people’s holidays, pretty selfies, delicious food or tweets about how much fun last night was. You have to remember that you never know what goes on behind closed doors. It’s difficult enough when people are having a tough time at work, at home or in their relationships without the added stress of them looking at their phone in bed before they try to sleep and getting subjected to abuse online. My advice on how to deal with internet trolls is – ignore, delete, block and forget.

Niall Harbison

Niall is an entrepreneur focusing on trends and has just released a book

‘People ripping you apart publicly is something that will always be hard’

I get a ton of abuse on Twitter. I’ve been told to go and hang myself. Told that I am a bald, fat little so-and-so (insert your choice of swear word here) and generally been picked apart as a person by people I’ve never met in my life. What I’ve noticed is that when I only had a few thousand followers everybody was nice but with 20,000 now people are more willing to take a pop at you and try and knock you down. I’ve noticed this to be true in Ireland more than anywhere else because the trait of wanting people to fail is deeply engrained into our psyche. I guess when you do get a few more followers people think of you as the guy on the GAA pitch at Croke Park or the singer at a concert where you can shout abuse as part of a crowd and ‘sure isn’t it only harmless fun anyway?’

I’m lucky that I have fairly thick skin and just laugh it all off anyway, but I could see how it would bother certain people. Just because you have a ton of followers doesn’t mean that you are set up to deal with the abuse directed at you. We all still wake up in the morning, log in on our phone and read tweets just like anybody else and to see people ripping you apart publicly and talking about you as if they know you is something that will always be hard to get used to.

The thing with men on Twitter is that it is often ‘banter’. The social network mimics real life where guys often resort to slagging each other rather than opening up their emotions and actually being nice to their friends like woman do. Banter is fine with people you know and have had a laugh with in real life but banter can often descend into bullying or hurtful abuse very quickly online. Search for any of the nastiest words out there on Twitter and you’ll be appalled by what some people are saying. I know people working in Twitter safety here in Dublin and they do an outstanding job at policing the service and taking content down, but with billions of tweets they are never going to catch everything. They have their finger in the dam but the dam is getting much bigger by the day and, as a community, we need to police ourselves and out friends as much as anything.

I write articles online, am vocal on certain issues and through my book and other activities have gained a lot of publicity. That’s where my following comes from and I know that by doing that I have to trade off certain parts of my life. If I didn’t want any abuse on Twitter I’d keep a low profile, write less opinionated articles and not speak my mind all the time. By putting your life into the public sphere you have to accept that people will slag you, pass comment on what you do and a tiny minority will often overstep the mark. I get 99% good feedback and interactions with people and I’m not going to stop that incredible part of my life just because a couple of nutcases want to be cruel from behind their keyboards.

What I’d always say to people is read the tweet you are about to send out loud then ask yourself “would I say that to someone in the real world?”. If the answer is no then delete it. On the flip side if you are getting abuse online and don’t like it then delete your account like Ryan Tubridy did and just don’t use social media. You can have all the protections in place and be as nice as pie but the simple fact is, people being people, they’ll say nasty things. Twitter and social media in general is a wonderful way of communicating so let’s not ruin it by being nasty and just treat people with respect.

Have you been on the receiving end of online abuse or trolling? How do you deal with it? Let us know in the comments below…

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    Nov 27th 2023, 11:57 AM

    Does anyone have a reasonable explanation why women born before 1946 and spent years rearing their children have been excluded by the Dept of Social Protection from claiming for pension credits under the Homemakers Scheme? All women born after that date who have reared families are entitled to claim. Is this an example of ageism or is it at the very least discriminatory?

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    Nov 27th 2023, 1:56 PM

    @Mary Dunphy:
    Hard to fathom, can hardly be the extra numbers involved….unless they’ve been excluded as part of a similar such arrangement on a related matter/s as wouldn’t be uncommon.
    Collective bargaining agreements within the public service relating to financial awards and hard earned rewards may be arbitrated similarly, if any use!?

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    Mute Eileen Kelly
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    Nov 27th 2023, 2:32 PM

    @Mary Dunphy: It is not just women born before 1946 that do not qualify for their own old age pension. In 2012 the state introduced new legislation which meant that mothers in the home who reared their own children and likely looked after parents, in-laws and family members who needed support were no longer entitled to their own pension unless they had 520 credits. These people were not paid carers as there was no such payment in that time, indeed there were no child care options or creches . Many of these women were forced out of their jobs on marriage or because of the unfair taxation of married women, very many were not even aware of the possibility of ‘signing for credits’. There were no policies to inform or educate women on their entitlements. Prior to the 2012 legislation , the requirement was 260 credits to qualify for a pension so most women, our mothers/grandmothers would have had their own pensions but this is no longer the case. With the introduction of the 2012 legislation, women in the home lost their right to their pension so despite the rhetoric of the value placed on women who undertook caring roles in the home and by their contribution afforded a service to the state, the reality is that they are invisible old people who are denied an income and struggle to survive but Heather Humphreys has no plans to address this marginalised group, quite simply they are ignored.

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    Mute Mary Dunphy
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    Nov 27th 2023, 5:52 PM

    @Eileen Kelly: Perfectly understand the frustration that is felt by not alone women but also a number of men who are being denied their pension based on flimsy excuses. Personally having more than the required number of contributions for a full old age pension – from working in the private sector after my family was reared – but, having worked for 6 years in the public service and let go on marriage (famous marriage bar) my contributions have been averaged (famous averaging rule) over the period from the date I first began working in the public service until I retired and so I am denied a full old age pension. Had I never worked prior to my marriage I would be in receipt of the full old age pension. Many of those in receipt of the full old age pension have many less contributions than I. I have yet to receive a logical explanation for this despite corresponding with various Ministers and officials in the Dept of Social Protection.

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    Nov 27th 2023, 2:05 PM

    Nothing for Single people again, even though we have to pay higher rent costs. My landlord won’t even allow HAP or Rental tax breaks.

    Him and his wife want a cash income into every month and E1950 a month is a lot of money to get out and work for :-( .

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    Mute he didnt take the 120k because he already got it s
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    Nov 27th 2023, 8:41 PM

    @Luka Roche: its illegal for a landlord to not accept HAP

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    Mute mark mc cann
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    Nov 27th 2023, 12:11 PM

    It will keep the pubs in business

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    Nov 27th 2023, 12:55 PM

    @mark mc cann: how?

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    Mute For Gods Sake.
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    Nov 27th 2023, 2:29 PM

    @Alison Hughes: Use your imagination.

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    Nov 28th 2023, 12:23 PM

    @mark mc cann: I,m sure people struggling to pay bills and survive in times of inflation, spiraling rents will appreciate the ignorance of your comment.

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    Mute Tom D
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    Nov 27th 2023, 6:56 PM

    Genuine carers should get pension contributions and a larger payment. But they need to do a better job of weeding out the grab a granny brigade. Nobody should be allowed to stay on the dole longer than 6 months in a time of labour shortages. They need to get more strict with disability allowance, there’s a lot of messers in that group. Money for dependents should capped, you can’t keep having more and more kids if you can’t afford them. We can’t run a country where almost half the population depend on Gov handouts, esp with an aging population

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    Nov 27th 2023, 12:12 PM

    A camel with 3 humps.
    Humphrey.

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    Mute Padraig O'Brien
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    Nov 27th 2023, 12:59 PM

    Give us more money please?

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    Nov 27th 2023, 3:36 PM

    Great little country

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    Nov 29th 2023, 9:57 AM

    @Brendan O’Connor: Most of our problems are growing pains in a world full of failed and failing states As the standard/cost of living increases just to be “normal” moves up and standing still feels like going down. The level of work/enterprise required to be “normal” moves beyond more and more people creating a gap between hard working, ordinary working and little working citizens. Inequality is a product of an active free society and economy.

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    Mute he didnt take the 120k because he already got it s
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    Nov 27th 2023, 8:42 PM

    The latter group dont need their payout, they got everything they needed on thursday night

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