Support from readers like you keeps The Journal open.
You are visiting us because we have something you value. Independent, unbiased news that tells the truth. Advertising revenue goes some way to support our mission, but this year it has not been enough.
If you've seen value in our reporting, please contribute what you can, so we can continue to produce accurate and meaningful journalism. For everyone who needs it.
An account is an optional way to support the work we do. Find out more.
Shutterstock/Minerva Studio
Opinion
Do we care enough about Irish to keep it alive?
I have next to no Irish and I’m embarrassed by that… yet I don’t think I’ll ever learn.
1.00pm, 6 Apr 2015
1.9k
137
AS A MEMBER of Generation Peig, I have next to no Irish and I’m very embarrassed by that. But then, when I stop and think about it, I find myself feeling somewhat ambivalent towards Irish, wondering whether it is our national language or our national affectation.
Many’s the time, in an undistinguished academic career, I found myself being talked down to as Gaeilge by an angry and sarcastic múinteoir, despite said teacher knowing full well that I might understand better if they actually did the decent thing and spoke in Klingon altogether.
I was reminded of those classroom humiliations recently when the Wexford TD Mick Wallace asked the Taoiseach if, while visiting the White House for St Patrick’s Day, he intended to shake hands with President Obama – “a man who personally orders the pointless execution of scores of innocent children”.
So far, so predictable. A child in Sixth Class could script this. A TD on the left will ask a question about US drone strikes and the Taoiseach will patronise and deflect. If we’re lucky, there might be a cutting remark from Enda’s arsenal of standard non-answers to the Opposition – Fianna Fáil wrecked the country, Sinn Féin should remember Jean McConville, the far left would have us all eating grass within six months – and the pantomime of pointlessness will go on about its business as usual.
The Taoiseach went full múinteoir on Wallace
What happened next was a departure, though. I should declare that I’m not the biggest fan of Deputy Wallace, though I do recognise he has a great streak of personal decency running through him. What happened next was horrible. Because it was Seachtain na Gaeilge, the Taoiseach insisted on replying as Gaeilge. When it became obvious that Wallace couldn’t understand what Kenny was saying, the Taoiseach told him “Cuir ort na cluasáin ateangaireachta. Tá siad os comhair an Teachta ansin.” A mortified Wallace replied that he did not have a working translation device and said “I apologise I cannot speak Irish.”
The Taoiseach – a teacher by profession – proceeded to go the full múinteoir on Wallace, lecturing him as Gaeilge, breaking into English to snap “Put on your translation system. This is our national language.” It was a moment which showed the Taoiseach in a deeply unattractive light and a moment – I would suggest – of workplace bullying in our national parliament. It also encapsulated for me everything that is wrong with the way Irish is taught in our schools and upheld in our institutions.
Is the problem the way we teach Irish?
I’ve joked before that, having spent a dozen years learning Irish and now not being able to understand even the Nuacht headlines, I am deeply grateful I had fluent English before I entered our education system. There’s a truth at the back of that joke, though, and I wonder still whether I was so thick or whether it was the way we teach Irish which was at fault. (Perhaps it was both.)
I should say, though, not all of my experiences with Irish have been negative. Some years ago, I worked for a while in the Waterford Gaeltacht of An Rinn. If you’ve never been there, I recommend a visit. It’s a beautiful place, even by Ireland’s high standards. On a spring day in Ring, with the sunlight glinting off the sea, you’ll find the weight of the world a little lighter. The people there are lovely and they use Irish freely in daily conversation.
I wish I had Irish (or do I?)
My own Irish extends not even as far as that beer ad, although (obviously) ba mhaith liom Sharon Ní Bheoláin. Talking with native Irish speakers in An Rinn, though, I always felt very guilty at not being able to have a chat in my national language.
While I was in Ring, I met Liam Clancy, a man Bob Dylan called his hero. I was star-struck. Clancy told great stories of Greenwich Village in the early 1960s. Clancy referred to “Little Bobby Dylan and his Instant F*cking Copyrighting Machine” and Dylan stealing “Brennan on the Moor” to serve as the air for “Ramblin’ Gamblin’ Willie”.
Advertisement
Liam accepted my lack of Irish and never made a big deal about it, any more than anyone else in An Rinn did. Nobody talked down to me or made me feel like a second-class citizen. (In essence, nobody acted what I would call The Enda.)
I really wish I had Irish, though.
Although, do I? Do I really? There are Irish classes available, after all. So why have I never taken them? Is it because I feel, in my heart of hearts, that Irish is not so much our national language as our national affectation?
Middle-class elitism?
Does a language, however ancient and beautiful – Europe’s oldest spoken, literary language – even deserve to live when its own people no longer use it in any meaningful way? Are we codding ourselves Iricising English words and telling people in Dingle that they’re not in Dingle anymore? Are the Gaelscoileanna the last hope for Irish as a living language or are they a breeding ground for middle-class elitism?
I’ve often wondered about that last one. During the Celtic Tiger, I heard parents openly boast that their little darlings wouldn’t be held back by “non-nationals” in their school because you don’t get that class of people in the Gaelscoil. I’ve heard the board of management of one Gaelscoil referred to as “the Provisional wing of Fianna Fáil”.
But then I hear – anecdotally – that kids in most primary schools are still learning Irish the same way I did, learning words by rote, sentences without the context of conversation and in such a way that the butterfly of language is pinned, dead, to the page.
One teacher I know of does make an effort to make Irish fun by telling kids that the key to understanding Irish is to imagine that Yoda was Irish and put the verbs in the wrong place. “Go to the shop I did, apples to buy. Delighted my friends will be, when to them the gift of delicious apples I make!” (Go on, do the voice!)
Irish should be a living language
Writing in the Dublin Review of Books recently, the academic and linguist Joe Mac Donnacha suggested that, given that even the children of Gaeltacht areas are now less competent in Irish than they are in English, the only question remaining for Irish is whether it can even survive as a second language in a few niche Gaelthacht areas. Perhaps my fears are right. Perhaps the best hope the Irish language has is that it survives – for a while longer – as our national affectation.
Then again, perhaps the Gaelscoileanna are right. Perhaps it is only through immersion in a language that it becomes real. If that is so, then, is there a case to be made that the only hope for Irish to survive in any meaningful way is for all primary schools to become Gaelscoileanna? Would such a radical measure drag the teaching of Irish up to the standard of the teaching of other subjects? Or would members of Generation Peig fear that it might have the opposite effect and drag other subjects down to where Irish is now?
Surely we can all agree that if the Irish language is to really be an essential part of us it should be more than a sort of Masonic handshake, a secret code or a shibboleth for the privileged. Surely Irish should be a living language.
The question is do we care enough to keep it alive, though?
Níl a fhios agam.
Donal O’Keeffe is a writer, artist and columnist for TheJournal.ie. He tweets as @Donal_OKeeffe.
Readers like you are keeping these stories free for everyone...
A mix of advertising and supporting contributions helps keep paywalls away from valuable information like this article.
Over 5,000 readers like you have already stepped up and support us with a monthly payment or a once-off donation.
Gang leader thought to be linked to kidnap of Irishwoman is placed on FBI ‘Most Wanted’ list
11 mins ago
294
Shooting Stars
Meteor shower and rare 'double planet' to light up Irish skies tonight - here's how to spot them
Updated
21 hrs ago
54.6k
27
Your Cookies. Your Choice.
Cookies help provide our news service while also enabling the advertising needed to fund this work.
We categorise cookies as Necessary, Performance (used to analyse the site performance) and Targeting (used to target advertising which helps us keep this service free).
We and our 220 partners store and access personal data, like browsing data or unique identifiers, on your device. Selecting Accept All enables tracking technologies to support the purposes shown under we and our partners process data to provide. If trackers are disabled, some content and ads you see may not be as relevant to you. You can resurface this menu to change your choices or withdraw consent at any time by clicking the Cookie Preferences link on the bottom of the webpage . Your choices will have effect within our Website. For more details, refer to our Privacy Policy.
We and our vendors process data for the following purposes:
Use precise geolocation data. Actively scan device characteristics for identification. Store and/or access information on a device. Personalised advertising and content, advertising and content measurement, audience research and services development.
Cookies Preference Centre
We process your data to deliver content or advertisements and measure the delivery of such content or advertisements to extract insights about our website. We share this information with our partners on the basis of consent. You may exercise your right to consent, based on a specific purpose below or at a partner level in the link under each purpose. Some vendors may process your data based on their legitimate interests, which does not require your consent. You cannot object to tracking technologies placed to ensure security, prevent fraud, fix errors, or deliver and present advertising and content, and precise geolocation data and active scanning of device characteristics for identification may be used to support this purpose. This exception does not apply to targeted advertising. These choices will be signaled to our vendors participating in the Transparency and Consent Framework. The choices you make regarding the purposes and vendors listed in this notice are saved and stored locally on your device for a maximum duration of 1 year.
Manage Consent Preferences
Necessary Cookies
Always Active
These cookies are necessary for the website to function and cannot be switched off in our systems. They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such as setting your privacy preferences, logging in or filling in forms. You can set your browser to block or alert you about these cookies, but some parts of the site will not then work.
Social Media Cookies
These cookies are set by a range of social media services that we have added to the site to enable you to share our content with your friends and networks. They are capable of tracking your browser across other sites and building up a profile of your interests. This may impact the content and messages you see on other websites you visit. If you do not allow these cookies you may not be able to use or see these sharing tools.
Targeting Cookies
These cookies may be set through our site by our advertising partners. They may be used by those companies to build a profile of your interests and show you relevant adverts on other sites. They do not store directly personal information, but are based on uniquely identifying your browser and internet device. If you do not allow these cookies, you will experience less targeted advertising.
Functional Cookies
These cookies enable the website to provide enhanced functionality and personalisation. They may be set by us or by third party providers whose services we have added to our pages. If you do not allow these cookies then these services may not function properly.
Performance Cookies
These cookies allow us to count visits and traffic sources so we can measure and improve the performance of our site. They help us to know which pages are the most and least popular and see how visitors move around the site. All information these cookies collect is aggregated and therefore anonymous. If you do not allow these cookies we will not be able to monitor our performance.
Store and/or access information on a device 154 partners can use this purpose
Cookies, device or similar online identifiers (e.g. login-based identifiers, randomly assigned identifiers, network based identifiers) together with other information (e.g. browser type and information, language, screen size, supported technologies etc.) can be stored or read on your device to recognise it each time it connects to an app or to a website, for one or several of the purposes presented here.
Personalised advertising and content, advertising and content measurement, audience research and services development 201 partners can use this purpose
Use limited data to select advertising 163 partners can use this purpose
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times an ad is presented to you).
Create profiles for personalised advertising 124 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service (such as forms you submit, content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (for example, information from your previous activity on this service and other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (that might include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present advertising that appears more relevant based on your possible interests by this and other entities.
Use profiles to select personalised advertising 125 partners can use this purpose
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on your advertising profiles, which can reflect your activity on this service or other websites or apps (like the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects.
Create profiles to personalise content 52 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service (for instance, forms you submit, non-advertising content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (such as your previous activity on this service or other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (which might for example include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present content that appears more relevant based on your possible interests, such as by adapting the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find content that matches your interests.
Use profiles to select personalised content 49 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on your content personalisation profiles, which can reflect your activity on this or other services (for instance, the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects. This can for example be used to adapt the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find (non-advertising) content that matches your interests.
Measure advertising performance 181 partners can use this purpose
Information regarding which advertising is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine how well an advert has worked for you or other users and whether the goals of the advertising were reached. For instance, whether you saw an ad, whether you clicked on it, whether it led you to buy a product or visit a website, etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of advertising campaigns.
Measure content performance 79 partners can use this purpose
Information regarding which content is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine whether the (non-advertising) content e.g. reached its intended audience and matched your interests. For instance, whether you read an article, watch a video, listen to a podcast or look at a product description, how long you spent on this service and the web pages you visit etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of (non-advertising) content that is shown to you.
Understand audiences through statistics or combinations of data from different sources 113 partners can use this purpose
Reports can be generated based on the combination of data sets (like user profiles, statistics, market research, analytics data) regarding your interactions and those of other users with advertising or (non-advertising) content to identify common characteristics (for instance, to determine which target audiences are more receptive to an ad campaign or to certain contents).
Develop and improve services 119 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service, such as your interaction with ads or content, can be very helpful to improve products and services and to build new products and services based on user interactions, the type of audience, etc. This specific purpose does not include the development or improvement of user profiles and identifiers.
Use limited data to select content 52 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type, or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times a video or an article is presented to you).
Use precise geolocation data 67 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, your precise location (within a radius of less than 500 metres) may be used in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Actively scan device characteristics for identification 38 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, certain characteristics specific to your device might be requested and used to distinguish it from other devices (such as the installed fonts or plugins, the resolution of your screen) in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Ensure security, prevent and detect fraud, and fix errors 126 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Your data can be used to monitor for and prevent unusual and possibly fraudulent activity (for example, regarding advertising, ad clicks by bots), and ensure systems and processes work properly and securely. It can also be used to correct any problems you, the publisher or the advertiser may encounter in the delivery of content and ads and in your interaction with them.
Deliver and present advertising and content 128 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Certain information (like an IP address or device capabilities) is used to ensure the technical compatibility of the content or advertising, and to facilitate the transmission of the content or ad to your device.
Match and combine data from other data sources 96 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Information about your activity on this service may be matched and combined with other information relating to you and originating from various sources (for instance your activity on a separate online service, your use of a loyalty card in-store, or your answers to a survey), in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Link different devices 69 partners can use this feature
Always Active
In support of the purposes explained in this notice, your device might be considered as likely linked to other devices that belong to you or your household (for instance because you are logged in to the same service on both your phone and your computer, or because you may use the same Internet connection on both devices).
Identify devices based on information transmitted automatically 120 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Your device might be distinguished from other devices based on information it automatically sends when accessing the Internet (for instance, the IP address of your Internet connection or the type of browser you are using) in support of the purposes exposed in this notice.
Save and communicate privacy choices 108 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
The choices you make regarding the purposes and entities listed in this notice are saved and made available to those entities in the form of digital signals (such as a string of characters). This is necessary in order to enable both this service and those entities to respect such choices.
have your say