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EVERY SATURDAY ON TheJournal.ie, we bring you a selection of the statistics and numerical nuggets to help you digest the week that has just passed.
7,150: The size in square metres of the new Primark store in Boston.
85: The number of workers set to lose their jobs either directly or indirectly with the closure of Boyers.
€44.59: What the average household bill is set to drop by according to Bord Gáis.
500: The number of lodges at a new water-based holiday water resort in Longford.
12.9: The size in inches of the new iPad Pro.
€500 million: The value of the support package announced by the European Commission to appease violent farmer protests in Brussels.
40: The number of Irish bankers who earned at least €1 million in 2013.
€1,000: What some tickets for Dublin’s U2 concerts were selling for online before they even went on general sale.
400: The number of beds in a planned new student accommodation facility in Dublin.
23: The minimum number of years Karen Buckley’s killer Alexander Pacteau will spend in prison.
324: The total number of tours of duty taken by the 130 Irish troops heading to the Golan Heights.
€3.95: The price of a pint of Staropramen in the Cork’s first Wetherspoon’s, a euro more expensive than Dublin.
4,000: The number of refugees Ireland will take as part of the country’s response to the current crisis.
Wasn’t that the guy that raped a teenager and buried her alive?
Yes Damien, but there is no market in that, lets talk about how this monster suffered….. lets feel guilty for a guy that would kill your newborn….
He’s probably also kill the unborn in the womb of he got a chance.
Tell that to the pc brigade
That’s the job for him,pity it didn’t last for weeks.
Heres hoping it lasts…. wherever his corpse is…. purgatory I hope…..
Give KKK Uncle Sam another 20 years til they discover that yet again they have executed yet another black man in error because he was ‘available’ for trial and somebody’s neighbours cousins cat thought they might have seen him nearby, maybe, possibly etc.
Insightful.
I bet the parents would say justice was served
Agreed, the minute this maggot shot and buried a woman alive he gave away every human right we’re entitled too. I find the death penalty the only fair punishment for cold blooded murder
Alot disagree with it but I really wish we still had it. We have a few in prison who I believe need a long drop and a short stop
If they insist on continuing with executions they should just go the old chinese route. Shoot them in the head and make it quick.
There is no money in that.
They should use a Firing squad ..
Quick and painless….
Then charge the prisoner’s family for the price of the bullets…….
The firing squads would make too much noise in forthcoming FEMA camp executions.
Say a prayer to JP2. That will stop it frank
Charles Mcdonald I don’t pray to dead bodies and that would also include the Virgin Mary.
When it came up several months ago, I recall one particular observation on the “botched” execution, … It wasn’t actually botched, it was successful.
Once it has been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that someone has committed cold blooded murder or rape on any man woman or child they should be put down without mercy the same way there victims were treated. I’m not going to lose sleep over there human rights when they had so little regard for the rights of others.
“greatest country on earth”
Whats the problem here? Did this lowlife care about how he was raping or killing? He got it easy….. Anyone sympathising can take the same medicine…. hope the pain continues for him wherever he ends….
The problem is that every week there is a story of some lad or lass in the US being released from death row having being found innocent.Hell even China are begining to admit that they have made mistakes.
So becausr he commited a haenous crime, the same should be done to him? Descending to their standards is hardly appropriate. They should rot in jail, not be tortured to death.
Sounds like to much bath salts
Agreed, they should rot in jail while awaiting the end…. who cares if he suffered…. the baby was not given an option on how to go, the girl was not asked if she wanted to be buried dead or alive… he watched, probably enjoyed it…. if you want to spare the death penalty, he should be tortured to moments from death everyday for the rest of his life…. that would be a good deterrent…..
The problem is that ‘reasonable doubt’ is what’s needed to prove someone committed a criminal offence which has led to many mistakes being made in cases. Wasn’t it last week when a chinese court admitted to executing an innocent man and gave his family a couple of grand as compensation. The problem with the death penalty is that you can’t release someone if they’re subsequently found innocent.
The proof was supposed to be “beyond reasonable” doubt, I thought. Which means exactly what it says. Of course sometimes mistakes are made or evidence is suppressed. The Innocence Project has exonerated a fair few people wrongly convicted. Usually through new DNA evidence.
Yes it should. Better than paying for his keep.
I’m a big fan of the Death penalty but I think they should use the Guillotine.
That day will soon come, I see they are trying to phase out lethal injection over supplier issues. .
The Guilitine is the most suitable form of capital punishment for organ harvesting, no chemical contamination or bullet damage. This would of course suit Obamacare and Israel’s lucrative organ harvesting racket.
Decapitation is also spoken quite widely in the book of Revelation.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+20%3A4&version=KJV
I’m surprised the Chinese aren’t using it for their organ harvesting program.
Yes Glen very surprising indeed. I remember the Chinese executed lots of bankers after their financial meltdown. Us on the other hand didn’t give them a day in jail. Biggest bank bail out ever they said, but they’re still playing Golf Glen.
Don’t like taken life for another but in this case I make a exception of agreeing with the execution because of what he put his victim through
@ Frank..surprising you didn’t mention Jordan topping 11 people in one day recently, (a few “terrorists” included) bet if it was Israel you would be crowing!
Jordan is nothing more than a Zio puppet regime in the Middle East and is just as barbaric as Saudi Arabia and the US for supporting and allowing the training of Head Hacking rebels.
Frank, take a day off ffs
To quote the green mile … What in the blue fcuk was that ?? An execution. A successful one. Good riddance I say
Had me a good laugh on that one son, merry Christmas
The death penalty is just wrong.
No government should have the right to kill it’s citizens. No matter what.
I think a murderer and rapist has no rights….. do you care what happened to him? Do you think it was cruel? He is not a citizen, he is an animal, no a monster.
Ya but Graham, how many innocents are killed by this death penalty. There’s a reason why so few countries continue to use it.
Ryan, I understand and the much bigger effort should be put in to making sure the innocent never go this road, but there seems to be a major effort in caring for these undoubted monsters. I know its not ideal, but anyone who is clearly guilty of such terrible crimes do not deserve to live, to be a burden on society and to live in hope of being free again. Victims and there families get absolutely nothing but more suffering…..
Agree
There seems to be the thinking here, ahh well, the victims are dead, nothing can be done, but the savage animal is alive, lets do everything it takes to keep him alive, while spitting in the faces of victims families….. disgusting… the sympathisers….
It’s not sympathising. I would preder to die than dpend life behind bars.
Ailbhe against the death penalty for brutal murderers and rapists but all for it when it comes to the unborn.
@Jack Bowden: agreed. Genuinely shocked at the comments here and the way the red and green thumbs are going. I thought Irish people generally rejected the death penalty. Seems I was wrong.
Niall, I am not for it, but also not for undoubted monsters having every avenue to help them while the victims and families suffer to the grave….
Graham what you fail to realise is that we are a product of our experiences. Hence why it disproportionately affects lower social classes. Reform is the only way to go.
Agreed Darren, but that is a double edged blade as well. Reform where it is needed, but for some, reform will never be the way they want.
Good enough for him.
They would have executed the Birmingham Six and Guilford Four back in the day….Ten people would have been executed in error. The risk is too high.
Omg. That’s crazy talk. Let’s do a little ratio of all the people that were murdered(in various ways) to the number of people executed in error!! It’s not comparable. If I were executed in error, I would glad to know that for every wrong execution, there are 1000 + good ones. No smoke without fire.
I’m comparing botched executions of innocents to murders as they are comparable. Fyi. Both are not fair. But take away executions and our murder rate may increase.
The horrific nature of his crimes seem to have shrouded many people’s judgement on the death penalty.
1. Supporting capital punishment means the state will inevitably execute innocent people.
2. The rationale for capital punishment is often a mix of deterrent and punishment. If that is the reasoning, why not also torture the accused before death. Torture is a harsher punishment and certainly a more effective deterrent. If you support the death penalty, then you must support torture. Which types of torture, what duration, which crimes.
3. The role of the justice system is to protect society from criminals. Certainly this is achieved by executing dangerous criminals but it is also achieved by permanent imprisonment where rehabilitation is deemed unsuccessful. It is often pointed out that it will save tax money if we simply execute convicts. A myth I believe as any capital punishment system will have an exhaustive appeals procedure that will cost more than imprisonment.
4. It is often said that if dangerous criminals are not executed they will harm again. A valid point. However the effectiveness of a maximum security prison at minimising harm to innocents must be compared to the effectiveness of a system employing capital punishment. ie. How many guards are killed by inmates or citizens killed by escaped inmates vs how many innocent people the state executes. The data doesn’t exist but I suspect more harm to innocents will be caused in the system with capital punishment.
5. “If the victim was your family member you would feel differently”
Of course I would. I would kill the accused myself given the chance. But the role of the justice system is not to exact vengeance upon the accused.
The crimes are disgusting but be wary of a mob mentality leading to immoral policies.
Filthy rapist got what he deserved
The fact is it could have been any prisoner on death row, including an innocent man found guilty. One may argue this man deserved it, and there is an argument. but what of say, Bush and Blair, and others like them with blood on their hands? Why are the latter respectable murderers, given the scale of pain, brutality and death they afflicted on others and the effects are still felt today.
Good point, Pilate. One has to ask is it all worth the life of one innocent. And we know now, there’s been countless numbers of innocents executed.
In a couple of centuries time people will look back and laugh at how primitive we were having the death penalty. Serves no purpose!
Should look back and say we were too soft. Rapists and paedophiles should be given the death penalty. A touch more fitting that 5 year sentences with 3 years suspended. I can’t get inside the head of anyone who feels bad for these absolute mongrels
The sentences here are far too soft but would anyone trust our judges to impose death penalties? Our legal system has always favoured the elite and wealthy. Remember that guy who bought out his conviction for rape? Also two people that got community service for participating in a manslaughter and let’s not forget the man who got 6 years for killing his wife with a brick. You think the judges who gave those sentences are capable of handing out death sentences? God forbid!
Don’t agree with the death penalty. Yeah this guy deserved to die and so on but at the end of the day innocent people die and that’s just f*cked up.
You kill an innocent. You deserve the same treatment… End of story….
Provided he was guilty, I don’t care
Ryan what is your.point.? are you comparing a vicious inhumane thug who shot a 17 year old.and buried her alive to a woman who has to have been in a terrible absolutely awful.situation and made a decision that no.woman would make if had any other viable option …I hope im misinterpreting your point ..if not you are incredibly immature
I’m can’t see why the name “Warner” comes up at the end of the article. It makes no sense. Is this another case of roughly and carelessly editing a wire story from AFP?
No sympathy, the misery that guy caused wasn’t even close
Eh Ryan calling Ryan !
I strongly disagree with the death penalty.
Why not bring back hard labour? Much more punitive in my opinion and more fitting to penalise violent crime. Prison sentences should not be a holiday camp experience for those who committed violent crimes against another person.
Interested to hear of others opinion regarding this….
have your say