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Revealed: the TDs with the Dáil’s poorest voting records

We’ve gone through each TD’s attendance records to find the ones who show up for the fewest voting sessions in the Dáil.

TDs prepare to vote on the Dáil's last sitting day, July 19. Our analysis shows some TDs are far more regular voters than others.
TDs prepare to vote on the Dáil's last sitting day, July 19. Our analysis shows some TDs are far more regular voters than others.

FORMER MINISTER Michael Lowry has the poorest attendance record for Dáil votes of anyone outside the Cabinet, TheJournal.ie can reveal.

Analysis of the attendance records for TDs during Dáil votes, as listed on the Oireachtas website, reveals that only Taoiseach Enda Kenny – who is often abroad or elsewhere attending to government business – has attended fewer Dáil voting sessions so far in 2012.

Lowry has been present for a mere 17 voting sessions so far this year, out of a total of 79 discussions in which votes have been called – some of which may have included multiple votes held in quick succession. Other TDs have been present for over four times as many.

Outside of cabinet ministers, the TD with the next-worst attendance record for votes is People Before Profit’s Richard Boyd Barrett, who has been present for 27 voting sessions.

His United Left Alliance colleague, socialist Joe Higgins, also ranks among the most infrequent voters, having voted at only 31 sessions out of 79.

Neither Lowry nor Boyd Barrett responded to invitations for comment when approached by TheJournal.ie – but last night Higgins offered a vigorous defence of his attendance record.

“The voting records of Dáil Deputies reflect only a miniscule fraction of the crucial political work necessitated to fulfil an election mandate to [...] actively oppose the disastrous Fine Gael-Labour policy of continuing with the bailout of bankers, bondholders, speculators and the European markets system”, he said.

The Dublin West TD explained that the referendum on the Fiscal Compact and the opposition to the Household Charge required him to travel nationwide helping to build nationwide campaigns.

“Many of these activities conflicted with the Dail voting timetable,” Higgins said, adding:

Against a background where this government has a massive majority and can only be defeated by such mass movements of active opposition, Joe Higgins believes that it was far more crucial to assist the building of this opposition on the ground where such a conflict existed.

Ministerial matchmaking

A slew of other TDs are also listed as having relatively poor voting records – though among them are several Fianna Fáil front-bench TDs who are among the members most likely to be ‘paired’ with a minister.

Ministers who have to miss Dáil sittings in order to attend to ministerial duties are usually ‘paired’ with a member of the opposition who then agrees to abstain in any votes that the minister misses.

This is particularly important where the Dáil majority is small, and allows a minister to attend other events without the fear that the Government could lose a Dáil vote because of them. Ordinarily the ‘paired’ member is a front-bench spokesman of the largest opposition party.

This goes some way to explaining the relatively infrequent voting of Willie O’Dea (28), Niall Collins (31), and the trio of Micheál Martin, Seán Fleming and Barry Cowen (34). The absence of Fine Gael’s Aine Collins (30) and Labour’s Willie Penrose (31) can be attributed to illness.

Top and bottom

Fianna Fail’s John McGuinness has participated in 34 voting sessions, but as chairman of the Public Accounts Committee he is usually tied up in committee meetings on Thursdays.

The Munster pairing of Waterford independent John Halligan and the ULA’s Séamus Healy, from Tipperary South, are also among the more irregular attendees at 35 and 38 respectively.

Obligations as Irish delegates to the Council of Europe explains the absences of the Dublin Central independent Maureen O’Sullivan (36) and the Fine Gael duo of John Paul Phelan (38) and Joe O’Reilly (39).

At the other end of the scale, a series of Fine Gael backbenchers are the most regular voters. David Stanton has voted in 73 voting sessions, out of a possible 79, while Alan Farrell and Derek Keating have made it to 71. Brian Walsh and Paul Connaughton have attended 69 each, as has Labour’s Eric Byrne.

One appearance back, on 68, are Fianna Fáil whip Seán Ó Feargháil, Labour’s Kevin Humphreys, and the Fine Gael duo of Joe Carey and Noel Harrington. Another five government backbenchers have made it to 67 votes.

How the figures are calculated

The total number of voting sessions, at 79, does not strictly equal the total number of actual votes (or ‘divisions’) which have taken place – as often a number of votes can be held in quick succession, under the same item on the Dáil’s daily agenda.

For example, debates on the Dáil’s order of business – which sets the agenda for the rest of the day – regularly result in multiple divisions being called. Similarly, when opposition motions are being debated, TDs will usually vote on a government amendment immediately before they divide for a final vote.

The records listed above deem a TD to have ‘voted’ if they have cast a vote in at least one division whenever one is held – meaning any absenteeism for votes held immediately beforehand, or immediately afterward, is not considered. It is estimated that about 100 individual divisions have been held thus far in 2012.

Dáil procedures have no way of recording any abstentions, meaning any conscious abstention by a TD is treated simply as if the member was absent.

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Comments (57 Comments)

  • Two things which would transform the Dáil would be a referendum banning TDs from being ministers and banning TDs from being involved in medical cards, social welfare appeals, planning etc in the same way they can’t interfere with the DPP’s work.

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  • I’ve sat in the Visitors’ Gallery on many occasions and been shocked by two things 1) how few people there are working in the Dail on a daily basis and 2) how difficult they make it for visitors to visit the visitors’ gallery. Closed shop mentality seems to rule at all levels of Irish society.

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    • I’d have to disagree with you Marian: I’ve found the Visitors’ Gallery relatively easy to access, especially compared to other countries like the US where you have to go through a series of security checks and metal detectors both when entering Congress and again when going to the Visitors’ Gallery.

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    • I’ve never been to the Visitors gallery, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see an empty Dail. Typically most day-to-day stuff doesn’t need to be attended by every sitting TD, as they’re often small debates and motions which are tabled to build up to larger voting, or are discussions on committees and various Q+A sessions. It would be pretty similar in most parliaments around the world too!

      Realistically, if a TD and minister were to sit in the Dail every day, for every debate and motion that occurred, nothing would get done! There’d be no Ministers to run departments and no TD to call up when you have a problem. To be fair to them, while there are some bad apples – they do have a tough job and do work long hours.

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  • This is another reason why the Government should not be members of the legislature.

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    • Who else do you suggest should make the laws Robert? Shall we go back to the days of the black and tans?

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    • I am assuming you don’t understand the difference between government i.e the executive and the parliament i.e the legislature. If you do, then I don’t understand your question.

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    • We elect people to be part of the legislature, they in turn form a government which has executive power. The meaning is sort of in the tiltle, how else should we select a government? An if we took legislative power away from them what exactly would they do?

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    • We could elect an executive president like the US. The cabinet could be appointed by the legislature. There are many options. The point is that the cabinet members said they’re too busy with government business to take part in the legislature therefore your point on what else would they do is answered.

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    • Ireland has a presidential system which confers purely limited ceremonial ‘rubber stamping’ powers for a reason, it’s specifically designed to prevent too much power being detached from the Executive and the legislature rather than putting power in the hands of one person which can be dangerous and weaken the powers of the parliament and thus the democratic process if he/she seeks to change laws and or grab more power without due process.

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    • Many would argue that the current system lacks the checks and balances that exist with a true separation of powers.

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    • I think we do ok comparatively, it’s not the best but it isn’t the worst either. I’d take our system over US any day!

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  • Elrat 03/09/12 #

    Willie ODea too busy getting medical cards for people to be bothered to go to the Dail!

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    • In fairness, as was explained in the article, he was paired with a Minister so may have been present but abstained his vote.

      Those who aren’t involved in a pairing agreement have the biggest case to answer.

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    • The problem then is surely with our political system than? It requires Willy o’Dea to spend all his time sorting medical cards out in order to get the votes he needs to be re- elected next time round, politicians are forced to focus on local issues rather than national ones on a day to day basis. You can bet if Willy told someone who came to him to sort out a medical card that it wasn’t his job and there was nothing he could do about it, it wouldn’t be long before his name would be dragdged through the mud for not helping out his constituents.
      This sort of thing should be sorted out by local councilors or else actual people at the HSE not our politicians, but unfortunately this is exactly what the majority of people use there TD for, it seems there only uselful to you when they can do something for you directly on a local level and if they can’t or won’t spdo that then they damn sure won’t get your vote at the next election!

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  • They should only be paid for the days they turn up…like any other person in this country. It’s this easy, well paid lifestyle has made them arrogant and indifferent to what they think of the voters.

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  • Celly O 03/09/12 #

    In the REAL world…If you dont turn up to work you get firstly reprimanded and if it persists you get fired ! pardon me but should not our politicians be even more regularised seeing that they are paid large expenses to be there plus a fat salary when oh when is the rot going to be stamped out ? Banana republic rules me thinks!

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    • What do you suggests clock in clock out system on the wall with a card?
      OMG some of the statement on here today really show complete ignorance for what it is exactly that TD’s do. Voting in every dail vote is often pointless because of the huge majority the government currently has, if there is broad support for a bill which is often know as a point of general knowledge in the chamber before a vote then voting on the actual bill is not required by every TD. Oppossition just for opposition sake when defeat i seen as enviable would be more of a wate of time for a TD when they could be doing other work, it’s better they pick their battles and focus on voting when they may have a real chance of defeating/ winning a vote.

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    • sorry # when defeat is seen as inevitable

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  • Gavan, you might want to correct “This is particularly important where the Dáil *minority* is small”
    Presume you meant majority, obviously completely changes the point of the sentence.

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  • SF must have good voting records otherwise Im sure it would have been mentioned.

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  • You can be a great politician at a national level, be there for every debate and make a good contribution to the running of the country BUT if you don’t do all the other rubbish that should be illegal anyway – such as circumventing the system to “get” medical cards for people, lobbying to keep X service in your area even though it makes no sense to do so and lobbying to keep X landfill/prison/clinic OUT of your area even though it makes no sense to do so – you won’t get re-elected. Absolutely tragic, but true and the root of many of our problems.

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  • So Joe Higgins was too busy pushing his own agenda to represent the needs of the electorate?

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    • You can see his face contorted in a manner more akin to someone with constipation as he states with contrived gravitas ……….other work CRUCIAL to his role as a person elected to oppose…..
      What a chancer. Will we ever learn. This guy has drawn enough gravy from the system to bathe in it every day for the rest of his life.

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    • Why does he need to be a TD at all? Since his work involves traveling the length and breadth of the country, why doesn’t he just get on with that, and allow someone else to be involved in legislature in his place? Seems like he’d have more time for what he really wants to do – voting on national law is clearly not high up on his list of priorities

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    • Don’t forget he also tried to claim travel expenses for his travels around the country.

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    • When people are so blinded by the fog or ignorance, cynicism and media negativity towards politicians that they can’t see the tell the difference between those who are really working as best they can on their behalf and those who are in it more for their own person gain it’s a sad day for democracy.
      If there one thing I’ll say about Joe Higgins is that at least he has principles and he sticks to them, he works very hard for what he believes in as to whether that’s right or wrong is not for me to decide but your attacks on his political integrity could not be further from the mark guys!

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    • Damocles 03/09/12 #

      “he has principles and he sticks to them”

      Like he stuck to being a priest?

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    • Didn’t know he use to be a priest to be honest but what’s that really got to do with his conviction as a politician, in fact it kind of helps my point as it takes a strong will to both join and later leave the priesthood. To believe enough to join takes courage as does having the will to leave when you find it’s not what you wanted, the fact he’s stuck to ideas socialism for well over 30 years again show he really believes in it!

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  • Good work Gavan.
    Lowry and the ULA are the biggest dossers in the Dail. It figures really.
    There’s no right socialists anymore, since Bertie left.
    “Taoiseach Bertie Ahern is one of the few genuine socialists in the country, his former finance minister claimed today.” Indo 2005

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  • mcbab 03/09/12 #

    Gavan it seems you weren’t at Electric Picnic so had time on your hands!!!

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  • G 03/09/12 #

    Surely it is about time to rethink the rights of Tipperary to have a TD at all. If a constituency cannot be trusted to act as adults and elect a law abiding citizen at a minimum, they don’t really deserve an electoral mandate or state money.

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    • And sure maybe Kerry could lose all rights also. After all they did elect Jackie Healy-Rae and now his son. And we don’t want them people who wear caps in the Dáil.

      Then of course Dublin South Central – they elected someone who has a love of using printer cartridges paid for by taxpayers.

      Next up Mayo perhaps, as that is where the Flynnasty came from.

      Oh and Wexford – home of Mick Wallace.

      Wait, this idea of people not being allowed to elect their representatives sounds familiar. Has it been tried somewhere before?

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    • Don’t forget the likes of Martin Ferris, with his criminal record, or Barron Jarry Adams!

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    • If your going to start stripping democratic rights from people and areas of the country just because they can’t be trusted to elect ‘the right sort of person’ , why not just stop with this who democracy lark all together and have a totalitarian state and be done with it!
      Ridiculous populous and ant- democratic stuff which echoes a lot of what’s on here today with surprising amounts of bandwagon support from the thumbs up statement are getting.

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    • Damocles 03/09/12 #

      “why not just stop with this who democracy lark all together and have a totalitarian state and be done with it”

      Are those the only two options?

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    • It was an extreme exaggeration to make my point, Democracy isn’t perfect but it’s the best we’ve come up with so far, but if we’re talking in crazy extremes like some people here today we’re not gonna have an sense. Democracy can be improved but not by stripping democratic rights from the people. If anything people should be more involved and having a vote once every 5 years isn’t ideal, perhaps a system of recalling or disqualifying underperforming TD could be devised as a means of dealing with the likes of Wallace and Ferries in a purely democratic manor!

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    • Damocles 03/09/12 #

      “perhaps a system of recalling or disqualifying underperforming TD could be devised”

      Nigh on impossible under the current electoral system.

      I’m sure we could sit here until the cows come home devising new electoral systems. It’ll make sod all difference though.

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    • Finding ways of Changing or tinkering with the electorial syste to make it more democratic is surely a conversation worth having, however defending the merits of democracy and it’s principles is a must for anyone who believes in it!
      It may not work perfect and we may feel our vote doent matter or change anything but it’s a right millions,even billions have and continue to be willing to die for. We should not take our democracy for granted -the alternative is unknow but surely no less problematic!

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    • When FF was in power, and when Lowry was keeping them in power via voting, he got a lot of stuff done for the people in North Tipp in exchange for said votes. That’s why they keep electing him.

      FG/Lab have a big enough majority, so they don’t need him. So he’s not bothering to turn up to vote. My guess is he’s busy trying to ensure he’ll get re-elected by North Tipp next time around although for the first time in a long time, he hasn’t actually delivered much for them.

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    • Damocles 03/09/12 #

      OK then. For a start:

      The electoral system of many seats to one constituency was imposed on the Irish people by the departing British government of the time to enusre representation of minorities. That seems largely unimportant now as the people are less divided by religious and class differences, in fact many would say that the Irish lack both religion and class (ho ho).

      Redistribute 100 seats to smaller single seat constituencies of approximately 36,000 electorate each and institute a first past the post system.

      Sound fun?

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    • G 04/09/12 #

      Democracy brings responsibility with it is my point. Constituencies who cannot live up to those responsibilities could have it removed. What’s so great about a democracy that returns Lowry topping the poll?

      With regards to the Healy-Rae clan, while they might not be everyone’s cup of tea, they haven’t been involved in tax evasion and criminal activity so I think it is fair enough to leave them alone. They certainly worked the system which wasn’t in the greater interest of the country and their are perhaps moral question marks over their behavior but the dail would be near empty if that was used as a yardstick..

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  • Interesting.

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  • Nothing here surprises me. It just proves to me what we already know that they are being paid for basically doing nothing. They can’t even bother to press a button. Its too much like hard work I suppose.

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  • Dirty shower of…

    How can they justify their seat? Naturally travel and ministerial duties are a valid excuse but just not bothering to show up should see them lose their seat end of story.

    It should be mandatory for ministers to attend everyday not just what suits them. Imagine if you showed up for 15% of your working week? It wouldn’t be long before you are sacked.

    Same rules need to apply.

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  • Will be interesting to see if these TDs will adjust their travel expenses accordingly.

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