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Fate of Moore Street 1916 buildings up for debate

Oireachtas committee to hear from representatives campaigning for the preservation – but owners of site who want to redevelop it won’t attend.

Patrick Cooney, spokesperson for Save Moore Street campaign, and James Connolly Heron, grandson of 1916 leader James Connolly outside 16 Moore Street last month.
Patrick Cooney, spokesperson for Save Moore Street campaign, and James Connolly Heron, grandson of 1916 leader James Connolly outside 16 Moore Street last month.
Image: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

THE PRESERVATION OF a section of Moore Street in Dublin which was the final meeting spot of 1916 Rising leaders will be discussed at an Oireachtas committee today.

However, while several campaigners who are in favour of preserving the buildings in full will speak at the meeting, the Committee said that the actual owners of the site will not. Chartered Land, the owner, “declined an invitation to address the meeting,” said Labour TD Michael McCarthy.

He is chairperson of the Oireachtas Committee on the Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht, and said that “every effort was made to facilitate” the attendance of representatives of Chartered Land. The company had wanted to to give its evidence in private session, said McCarthy.

“Given the importance of the site, the Committee feels that this issues should be addressed in public,” he said.

Today’s meeting will begin with a presentation from Emeritus Professor Loughlin Kealy of UCD on the general principles of preserving historic buildings. The site at Moore Street (particularly No. 16), in the heart of north inner city Dublin and just off Henry Street, was the final headquarters of the leaders of the 1916 Rising after they evacuated the GPO. McCarthy said:

The Moore Street buildings and the laneways around them are of huge national and historical importance. The buildings form part of the most important battlefield site in modern Irish history. Some of the buildings are in a state of neglect and are subject to a planning application.

The Committee believes that this is an important issue which needs to be resolved. Given the fact that we are approaching the centenary of the 1916 Rising, it is important that the area is developed in a manner that respects the historical significance of the site.

The Oireachtas committee does not have any power to impose a decision on the fate of the Moore Street buildings but McCarthy insisted that the meeting was intended to get “all those with an interest in the site an opportunity to put their views on the public record”.

Chartered Land, “Ireland’s leading retail and commercial office space provider in the Greater Dublin Area” – owned by NAMA developer Joe O’Reilly – oversaw the refurbishment of the ILAC shopping centre, beside Moore Street, in 2008. Planning permission had been granted for a “retail-led mixed development” in a 5.5-acre ‘Dublin Central’ site which touches parts of O’Connell Street, Henry Street, Parnell Street and Moore Street. UK department store John Lewis is to be an anchor tenant and there is a plan to build a 700-space car park on the site.

Early last month, Arts and Heritage Minister Jimmy Deenihan had said that he had ordered an environmental impact assessment of Nos. 14 to 16 Moore Street. He wants to see the report before making a final decision on how the buildings might be incorporated into the Chartered Land retail centre plans.

A preservation order given the houses in 2007 – making it a national monument – means that no changes can be made to the buildings without ministerial consent. How the approved shopping centre might incorporate or affect the buildings, which are in a state of neglect, has yet to be decided.

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Comments (27 Comments)

  • When French, Hungarian, American, British, Italian, etc tourists come to Dublin they ask “Where did your revolution happen? Where can we go to understand the story?”

    If we could build a battlefield trail, from the GPO through what Taoiseach Enda Kenny called the Laneways of History where the GPO garrison fought in 1916, and build a museum of 1916 in the terrace of houses that they occupied in Moore Street, it would be a fabulous tourist draw. Tourists love narrative, they love story. When I went to Paris, I wanted to stand in the square and walk the roads where the French Revolution took place, and I was fascinated by the stories Parisians told me, and inspired by the preservation of French history. We could do as well in Ireland!

    When Kilmainham Gaol was a rotting, derelict site, volunteers worked to bring it back and make it a museum – it’s now such a huge draw that last Easter thousands of tourists had to be turned away.

    The terrace in Moore Street, now so shamefully neglected, is actually one of the only remaining working-class Georgian streets left in Dublin, quite apart from its part in history. Dubliners – Irish citizens and residents – deserve for it to be preserved and returned to its former beauty and grace.

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    • Fantastic idea. A museum in a building/street so steeped in history with a connection to the current exhibitions in the GPO would be a great tourist draw.

      A few euro admission and a few more for a guided tour would cover its running costs rather than have the money leave our Economy through John Lewis, Argos or whatever non-irish retail monster pops up there.

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  • We are only passing through history, this site is history and should be preserved for future generations.

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  • Simon 08/11/12 #

    A 700 space car park!! Once these places are bulldozed there’s no bring them back, do we really need another eye sore on o Connell/ Henry Street?

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  • We can’t even fill the centres we gave with shops, walk down any main street in Dublin and it’s like every second unit now lies empty. Tell me how this plan by Nama/ golden circle member joe I Reilly is anything but a sordid shameful relic of the long dead Celtic tiger. For godssake we dont need more empty retail units, ugly car parks or more shoddily built apartments that can’t even be sold! Restoring the area, preserving the site, establishing a cultural heritage centre there, making it part of a battle route as someone brilliantly suggested earlier in the thread- that is how we respect our history, educate our young, safeguard it for future generations and enrich the visitor experience of tourists who want to know more about what made Ireland. And although this is the kind of thing that transcends ‘making money,’ it will still bring jobs and a stream of revenue from tourists and local visitors.

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  • I love history and like when there are proper memorials to respect particular locations or events , but this site has been run down and unused for all my years growing up and I am sure there is a way to rejuvenate the entire street and make that part of town pleasant to visit ,with some appropriate memorial to acknowledge its past , the centre of most cities in Europe are by their nature significantly historic and we are no different except moore street as it stands is not a particularly well maintained or pleasant part of town to visit .Surely some tasteful restoration is not beyond us.

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  • It seems that many Irish people are ashamed of the rebellion. We’re too willing to build a shopping centre over the site and see it disappear like everything else from that time. It’s almost like we want to forget. I will never understand why.

    Fine Gael is an especially anti-Irish party. That’s clear from Alan Shatter’s mispronouncing of the word Derry, the lad who decided he was going to wear a red poppy this week, selling us off to Germany and Enda Kenny’s desire to apologise for the troubles. What he’d really like to apologise for, is that fact that we ever existed.

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    • well said colm

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    • Rick Jam 18/12/12 #

      You’re right the current government are looking to sell our country (any resources) to the highest bidder. The go ahead to explore for oil, that we will get 0 benefit from. The selling of our forests and other protected places of natural interest. Now this: ”Clean up Moore St.” agenda. Moore st. is where the people who actually LIVE in Dublin city come to but their food. Sure it’s not as pretty as Grafton St., and the overwhelming stench of fish/rubbish and cumin tainted sweat may put some off, but it’s real. It’s a real working street, steeped in History, Culture, Revolution and phone shops.
      In this day and age, Ireland; whilst quickly diluting its sovereignty and selling all it’s natural resources, is becoming possibly the most faceless, spineless, State in Europe. We need to start standing up and saying NO to the shambles that Civil Servants, Career Politicians and Bankers are turning this beautiful country in to.
      I think all the cronies in the Dail and Seanad need to read the constitution as they frequently disregard the National Interest in their own.

      ~Note: If someone wants to wear a Poppy for the MILLIONS of IRISH people who died fighting NAZI’s or whoever, be the bigger man and let them. Or even TRY to understand.

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  • Great to hear that there are many that respect this country and history to preserve the past.

    Now the issue at hand…. During the Celtic Tiger many of the folks making the decisions for this country and Irish history traveled the world to seek ideas and solutions that can be used in this country. I would argue tat we bring theses people back “unpaid” and use there knowledge. Clearly we paid for their trips and we need something positive to show for their expense. Further, if they whinge or refuse to aid the country…. Review their pension, and use their pension as hostage.

    There is clearly a solution to save this area and promote architectural advancement at the same time. If those who are challenged to find a solution, then ask those who are not of clear Irish lineage for assistance. There are many like myself who value history and love this country who would willing to help.

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  • Dublin really doesn’t need anymore shopping centres, seriously have we not learned anything?! The least we can do is preserve our historic sites in memory of the people who fought for this country even if nowadays people are willing to lie down and get walked all over

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  • Another shopping centre, seriously!! Who are these people and what planet are they on!! Haven’t we enough U.K retailers in every city and town all selling the same stuff!

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  • I’m all for the preservation of our historic monuments even if 1916 wasn’t a success (in the short term, long term it’s debatable) but I can’t help but think about the jobs/added revenue the new development will bring.

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  • Joe O’Reilly is a north Longford man with no civil duty – a very rare thing indeed

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  • Strip it down, pack it off to Collins Barracks if you want to preserve history… It will just rot in place if its left where it is anyway.

    Dublin city centre needs to plan for a future in 10-20 years when all that’s happening now economically is a distant memory and we will need to have a livable city centre. With proper public transport, services, parks, accessibility. Lack of planning, height restrictions and a mad urge to establish Americanized ‘suburban’ lifestyles in a far away commuter belt estates in Kildare, Meath, Wicklow etc was one of the main causes of a property bubble.

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  • tom 08/11/12 #

    Moore St is just a horrible place to visit. always was for as long as I can remember, while it’s nice to have history what’s currently there isn’t history that would inspire you to visit.

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    • Exactly, Tom – it should be a beautiful, contemplative museum in that terrace, with an account of the events of the Rising there, and the European, liberal ideals of the people who were there in 1916; and an account of the 18th-century shops and businesses that preceded it; and with nice cafes, a little library, perhaps a shop selling beautifully made Irish crafts. It could be a beautiful little Georgian street, if we brought it back to its original beauty. Even the cobblestones the Volunteers and Citizen Army ran across are still there, underneath the tarmac. In the lanes, you can still see the bullet-holes from the British machine guns.

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