Iran and Saudi Arabia are at war. Although they fight little proxy wars (Syria, Lebanon, Iraq…) instead of taking each other on! Unfortunately for Iran the US are allied with the Saudis (despite them being the most fucked up Islamic law enforcers in the world and supporters of Wahhabism and to a degree al Qaeda ) which means Iran are screwed either way. And in the meantime both sides will continue to drag the whole middle east through the mud!

Lock up your doors … The Irish are coming! :P

Exactly

I’d say you could at least double that figure Conor

Most dangerous country in the world.

Its a dead concept neutrality really.

We were never neutral and never will be.

well said kieran

Harper is very pro-Israel and makes that very clearly known. Of course this would be his stance.

If I use your argument, Dhansa, I could write the following:

“Ed Kavanagh (who also responded to this post) and Damsha Dmf are very anti-Israel and make that very clearly known. Of course this would be their stance.”

Facts and opinions are what make debates. We all have biases and stances we adopt. You do too. Does that exclude you from the debate? No, but it does colour your contribution. And mine. And everyone’s. But harper’s points are still valid, as long as you know where he’s coming from.

Sorry I am anti Zionist. Big difference. Don’t try hide behind the Anti Semite smoke screen that’s always thrown up when the government of Israel is criticised which is what you trying to imply. I would argue that the US is a far bigger threat to peace in the world than Iran ever was or will be. The last 50 or 60 proves so

Funny you should mention the Holocaust, because you don’t seem to recognise Nazi style propaganda when it is served to you.
This time it’s not the Jews who are in danger, it’s the Muslims.. But I guess that’s ok, because the Ministry of Truth in America and Israel have said that they are bad people..

Moslem?

Can’t you google the prime minister of Canada yourself?

The manner in which you ask your question leaves no doubt that you will be dissatisfied with any answer that does not conform to your opinion.
Would it please you if I answered yes I am devoid of thought or yes I am a robot?

Do you know how to ask a question without stating what you think the answer ought to be?

Its true because a Politician says so. Are you serious?. We all know the fountains of truth are the politicians . You gotta have something better than that. How any pro Zionist fund raising events versus pro Palestinian events do you think Harper’s been to Hardly an example of impartiality.

Its not anti Semitic to criticise Israeli policies . Are they immune to criticism?
They have nukes. It’s a fact . There is nothing anti Semitic about that!

Ah yes. That old chestnut might work on sheeple matey but I personally have no issue calling out the bigotted apartheid racist governments when needs be. So stick your tired old tactic where the sun dont shine. If i want to crticise the Israeli government I will do so and people like you can piss off and bully weak minded people..

If criticism of Israeli nuclear weapons is anti Semitic then surely criticism of Iranian nuclear weapons must be Islamophbic.

Calling people anti-semites in order to silence criticism of the state of Israel is the resort of those who know how morally bankrupt that state is. If they had a real persuasive argument they’d use it instead of simply intimidating critics.

Iran is a borderline psychotic theocracy that hangs gays, stones women to death, executes children, and runs elections that are farcically corrupt. Israel has nothing to do with the discussion, unless you have a traditional Irish problem with Jews.

Jeremy, they have everything to do with a discussion, particularly since the title of this is “Govt backs sanctions against Iran on nuclear issues, but not Israel” Besides, Israel are leading the ‘sabre rattling’ propaganda campaign for war along with the US. It’s Iraq all over again.

Traditional Irish problem with Jews, WTF are you spouting on about? Thats possibly the most idiotic comment ive ever heard on here. Iran certainly has its problems and they need sanctions and need to be brought to the negotiating table, Ahmadinejad and his regime are dangerous. Most seem agreed on this.

As for the isreali’s (and it is part of the discussion as sanctions on isreal are mentioned above).
It makes no difference to me what religion the people of isreal are. Their Government are possibly the most dangerous on the planet, The carry neuclear weapons and tell noone, The murder indiscrimnantly, The Use other countires identities, passports and soverenty for their own benifit. The couldn’t care less about Human rights or anyone but themselves. The Massacre aid workers looking to support Starving people. They have no respect for any other beliefs other than their own.

And then people are Ignorant enough to pull out the “Anti Semetic” card, Please. It has nothing to do with being Jewish. Its all about whether you support isreal as a country for its actions or not. And if you do, Well your anti most things but Isreali.

“Traditional Irish problem with Jews, WTF are you spouting on about?”

Like most Catholic countries, Ireland has an unhealthy anti-Semitic streak. That this is a “tradition” should be perfectly obvious from the (in effect) expulsion of the Jews from the city of Limerick in 1904 (supported by the founder of Sinn Fein by the way, and completely ignored by the state broadcaster) and Ireland’s doing practically nothing to help Jewish victims of the Nazis during Word War II. At present, Irish anti-Semitism is most obvious in the double standards assumed when a liberal democracy is regarded as morally equivalent to an anti-liberal theocracy. It is also evident from the deafening silence over routine mistreatment of women and minorities in many of the countries that actively threaten Israel.

Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades. There was never any question of its using them except as a last resort. It is not part of the current wave of nuclear proliferation, and is no more part of the present discussion than the standard “old guard” of nuclear powers such as US, Russia, UK, France, or China. It is an irrelevance except to people who are looking for some sort of half-baked justification for Iran’s acquisition of nuclear weapons.

And whilst all your hardship was going on the British were shitting all over us.. So that means they are all anti-irish so they better not criticise use or else I will immediately assume the whole British empire is inherently racist to all Irish,nor maybe all countries in the world that don’t agree with us, especially the dark skinned Arab/Persian ones are anti irish… Maybe I am being a bit paranoid there. Maybe the Irish should arm themselves to the teeth with Nukes, build a wall up north and slowly bulldoze the north evicting families and take our land back. Better stop before I am accused of being anti Semitic again..